Whoops me and my spelling.

 

Can I just ask and please only answer if you want to but if you do really want to work, you can, the government provide carers for people who really cant cope with autistism, im sure there must be day centres OH could go to and carers that could come in to see your mum as she doesnt need full on 24/7 care. Then you could have some freedom and earn some of your own money, have some life yourself

They really wouldn't pay for it, if we can't even get carers allowance.

TBH do you think i'd really like to go to a centre with a bunch of people that i don't know. I don't really like meeting new people as it is.

 

So what is this lovely new pup going to be called when he arrives? Im sure Miss Scorcher will be fine, if shes got a dodgy tum shes bound to show any worries with an upset tummy, see what the behaviourist says but Im sure you will sort it out and I need more puppy pics asap. I love pup number 1 btw:001_wub:.

 

This post brought it on...

All because of a thread that was suppost to be a happy one.

http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-breeding/139404-our-boy-ever-one-he-pup-pictures.html

Jesus ladies, chill out...

 

wow this has gone too far.

Some people on this thread must have very little to do with their lives if they feel that getting someone to clarify what types of food they buy and the size/style of their house is an acceptable thing to do.

Sheltielover, as long as your dogs are healthy and happy then it doesn't matter how many you have. Your finances shouldn't be relevant to anyone on here, you know you can afford to keep the dogs you have and I don't see why you'd put yourself into a position where you couldn't afford to keep them!

Regarding the other thread, I think in a way some members are talking sense when they say that you need to spend many years in a breed getting to know the dogs throughout all life stages before you can truly 'know' a breed - and even then people are always learning new things, but you know what your plans are and nothing anyone says on here will or should stop you from doing what you want. Perhaps you will make a mistake by getting another pup.... but perhaps it will be a great move and you'll have every success with your pup. Nobody knows this yet, not even yourselves.

There may be more to this than what I know but I am just speaking as I find! I wish you every success with your dogs and hope your plans all work out well.

And also - I think you need to get used to the bitching, I think PF is a bit like training school for the dog showing world! Full of bitching, sniping and spiteful people.... as well as the fabulous ones who turn out to be lifelong friends.

 

Im reposting this as it seemed to get ignored

isnt breeding considered a business ?
so what would the dole think about you getting benefits and dog breeding at the same time ?

Im not having a pop at you hun , not at all ... its just a question that popped into my head reading your thread and I figured if I dont ask i'll never know

By the way , I dont think you're a dosser , its bloody hard work being a carer

 

Please SL and SC7639, do not post your address, you are winding yourselves up over this.

There is no need to justify anything personal to anyone. We can talk dogs and breeding and pets all day, but no-one needs to discuss personal details about where they live on a public forum.
There is no need to prove anything to anybody and anyone who is asking for "proof" needs to be totally ignored.

You have already divulged much more about your personal details than anyone else here needs to know.

 

Im reposting this as it seemed to get ignored

isnt breeding considered a business ?
so what would the dole think about you getting benefits and dog breeding at the same time ?

Im not having a pop at you hun , not at all ... its just a question that popped into my head reading your thread and I figured if I dont ask i'll never know

By the way , I dont think you're a dosser , its bloody hard work being a carer

You have to annonce any earnings so any sales of pups contracts will be sent along with any vet bill's to the office's where they will debate how much if any to deduct from us.

As its our first litter and we will have paid £700 in total on health tests for the bitch alone and £200/£250 stud fee its unlikely we would have any money from it, thats if she doesnt have just a singleton pup.

But yeah, you have to announce any earnings.

My local office knows already and the lady dealing with it has bred dogs herself so she will know what costs are suppost to be there and so on.

Its only classed as a business if you breed over 3 litters a year of which you have to get a licence, other wise its considered a hobby.

 

SL please dont feel like you need to prove yourself to anyone on here, and certainly dont let anyone make you feel that you need to justify your financial situation, your OH's conditions, what shopping you buy or your home setting to anyone who fancies having a go at you!

This whole thread is completely ridiculous

 

SL please dont feel like you need to prove yourself to anyone on here, and certainly dont let anyone make you feel that you need to justify your financial situation, your OH's conditions, what shopping you buy or your home setting to anyone who fancies having a go at you!

This whole thread is completely ridiculous

I feel it should be deleted really.

 

I dont think you do need to prove yourself I only posted about food.. cause you never know.. someone may be able to source it cheaper.. who knows.. gawd I have been helped out enough on here with advice from people.. You have to read the threads sometimes in a different state of mind to realise some people would like to help....

 

Wow, just wow!

I couldn't care less if you eat £3 chips or make your own, I couldn't care if you live in a HUGE house or a tiny one. If you are disabled and unable to work you should get benefits. If you are needing to care for people and this means you cannot work, then so be it. If you want 100 dogs, which you budget for and can care and love, then good for you!

Don't let people get you down guys!

 

Wow, just wow!

I couldn't care less if you eat £3 chips or make your own, I couldn't care if you live in a HUGE house or a tiny one. If you are disabled and unable to work you should get benefits. If you are needing to care for people and this means you cannot work, then so be it. If you want 100 dogs, which you budget for and can care and love, then good for you!

Don't let people get you down guys!

I couldn't but if it helps to know ya can do a lot more with the spuds then that is helping someone right?

 

I couldn't but if it helps to know ya can do a lot more with the spuds then that is helping someone right?

I'm not talking about the advice. The advice that helps them both is great. It's the fact they feel that they need to justify themselves that is what I find wrong here.

 

I'm not talking about the advice. The advice that helps them both is great. It's the fact they feel that they need to justify themselves that is what I find wrong here.

No body should feel the neeeeed to justify yourself themself.. thank gawd for spell check.. had a couple in the loacol..

Only say what ya wan people to know.. otherwise they can pull ya to pieces..

 

You have to annonce any earnings so any sales of pups contracts will be sent along with any vet bill's to the office's where they will debate how much if any to deduct from us.

As its our first litter and we will have paid £700 in total on health tests for the bitch alone and £200/£250 stud fee its unlikely we would have any money from it, thats if she doesnt have just a singleton pup.

But yeah, you have to announce any earnings.

My local office knows already and the lady dealing with it has bred dogs herself so she will know what costs are suppost to be there and so on.

Its only classed as a business if you breed over 3 litters a year of which you have to get a licence, other wise its considered a hobby.

Thanks hun , I know zero about breeding so appreciated you answering
Hugs

 

You don't have to justify yourself here However, I think this thread could stir up arguements from the other thread

 

You clearly love your dogs, even I can see that, you aren't just going to go out and do something that will make Scorcher worse.
Course there is no point in saying right now ''oh I wont have a puppy incase she gets worse or doesnt improve'' or whatever.

Haven't read the whole thread, and didn't intend to post anyway but just wanted to comment on this.

I would NEVER bring in a pup if I had an older dog that had behaviour problems and needed attention until that older dog was better. It is highly irresponsible IMO to bring a new pup in without first addressing the problems of the older dog.

 

They really wouldn't pay for it, if we can't even get carers allowance.

TBH do you think i'd really like to go to a centre with a bunch of people that i don't know. I don't really like meeting new people as it is.

Shame your not getting more help as you have a multiple of conditions that will all impact hard on you

My brother had ME for ten yrs and didnt get much help, very debilitateing condition, you just dont realise until you see someone go through it how life destroying it can be, hes got himself near to fully better but its savaged his life as it started at age 21

Dont knock all community clubs. some of the clubs that are around are quite fun to go to and we all have to meet new people sometimes, it may well be worth just looking in to them, i dont mean the full on ones for people with severe learning disabilities there are ones for more able people.

Lets all just live and let live, its up to us as individuals what we do with our lives and as long as we dont hurt anyone or any animal then for goodness sake folk where is the problem, life is so hard and too short for all this angst, may be some of those that choose to plough the little money and time they have in to ventures (that are not affecting others), which some may see as wrong, may just be doing this as it brings them some joy and interest to thier lives, whats wrong with this, so knocking things we dont agree with is just wrong and im sure shetlandlover youv dione this to others too, we are all at fault at times but really we should take stock and leave it out and let people live thier lives.

I do think though that posting so openly about your lives leaves you open to such critisism and at times hurtful comments because in a way if you do this youv given consent for people to comment. So on an open forum best just give the basics and have a good chat and leave heavy debates to the non personal stuff

Boy heres to 2011

 

Haven't read the whole thread, and didn't intend to post anyway but just wanted to comment on this.

I would NEVER bring in a pup if I had an older dog that had behaviour problems and needed attention until that older dog was better. It is highly irresponsible IMO to bring a new pup in without first addressing the problems of the older dog.

I understand where yo are coming from, but who can honestly say their dog is 100% perfect?
At various life stages you may face challenges and problems you have to address but i dont think that means you should only ever have the one dog if that makes sense

 

The puppy issue is one that you should seriously think of though, not a good idea at the present with scorcher the way she is, you have enough on your plates get her sorted first, then you can enjoy any new pup

sorry edited to add i think i did see a post where you said you would wait if scorcher was not better in her behaviour, so good on you for this

 

Haven't read the whole thread, and didn't intend to post anyway but just wanted to comment on this.

I would NEVER bring in a pup if I had an older dog that had behaviour problems and needed attention until that older dog was better. It is highly irresponsible IMO to bring a new pup in without first addressing the problems of the older dog.

Then next time read the whole thread. We can't never do anything again with our lives because scorcher has problems and wants us all to oursleves but we're doing what we can to help her.

 

We can't never do anything again with our lives because scorcher has problems and wants us all to oursleves but we're doing what we can to help her

I said in another post that few things rattle my cage, but this irresponsibility does.

No one has ever said you can never do anything again with your lives. FFS

Grow up, get real and realise you have a dog that needs your attention and then AFTER you have helped Scorched and done all you can then think of bringing another pup in. It won't be forever, but neither will it be a few weeks from what has been written.

No wonder people question whether you care for your dogs!

 

I understand where yo are coming from, but who can honestly say their dog is 100% perfect?
At various life stages you may face challenges and problems you have to address but i dont think that means you should only ever have the one dog if that makes sense

I never said any dog is 100% perfect, nor that they should never get another dog. But not now - not until Scorcher has had all the help and they the problems have been sorted.

I would not sell a puppy to anyone knowing they had another dog that required a behaviourist. But they are not only getting another puppy, but will be keeping a puppy from the litter they are planning. Remedial behavioural help can take months if not years. They have a responsibility to the dogs they have NOW, one of which requires their attention and specialist help, and it is not a good time to get more. Puppies take a great deal of work - with all the other commitments as a carer and with Scorcher bringing another pup in now is not the right time.

 

No wonder people question whether you care for your dogs!

:scared: Just who says that exactly????

I have been to Shetland lovers and met her and her gorgeous dogs. They are immaculate. They are a lot cleaner than my two mucky buggas. Thats for sure!

So what.. Shes on benefits. Big deal!!

Those dogs are very much loved and cared for. They want for nothing

I really wish people would stop judging her! Are you a breeder? Have you ever bred? Do you even have dogs???