When I was looking to show a boxer who was entire, I wanted him neutered and got informed on here that you can still show neutered dogs

 

TBH do you think i'd really like to go to a centre with a bunch of people that i don't know. I don't really like meeting new people as it is.

But your willing to travel about showing your dog? There's lots of people there that you won't know either.... Even if it's local shows!

And you mentioned earlier you had ME? If your that bad, how will you cope with all the travelling/waiting/showing etc etc?

 

If your OH can play on a games station he can work, if he can type on internet forums he can work ... NO excuse. He could be a games tester, or do many other jobs found online to supplement his benefits ... which might I add are sounding more and more strange! How can he be getting £650 a month when he himself said some of the conditions aren't recognised by the DWP? And can't get carers allowance for the same reason? The highest rate of DLA is £71.40 per week, and I can tell you there is no way he would be eligible for that. To qualify you literally have to be spoon fed ... much more to it but that's one of the requirements/needs of the person claiming.

If he is capable of making his own meal (this includes putting a meal in the oven) he won't be getting full DLA, and if he is he's claiming it fraudulently."

Can I just point out, I was caring for my partner who had epilepsy a few years back, we were living together and I got Second Adult carer's rate, which is the highest because we were living together I was caring for him 24/7

He normally has 6 or 7 seizures a day, he had to leave his job at a Supermarket because he had to have one week off after every seizure, and more often than not he spent most of his time on crutches because of his legs.

NOW, to be honest, he faked most of his 'pain', he could actually, get a part time job it wasn't THAT severe, I know this because he spent most of his days on the laptop, he can make his own drinks, using a kettle. Granted if he's going through a bad patch I'd be there to watch him just in case, but he could manage it. He could cook himself (I assume so but I always used to do it!), dress himself, go out drinking, go out with his friends, go to college. He was quite independant, and I believe, could manage on himself going to a part time or even full time work.

He was on the highest amount of DLA, though he could look after himself and perhaps if he lived on his own he could cope with a carer who popped in every day?

He used to have his seizures when he's tired, so mainly they were at night when we were going to bed and I'd always have to walk behind him, 90% of the time he'd fall to the floor while at the top of the stairs. Rarely did he have one during the day.

He was more than capable of working, living on his own, doing everything, he even went on an all boys holiday and managed to get cheapish holiday insurance. Yet he could still be entitled to a Disabled parking badge AND the full DLA. Shocking really. Some people use their disabilities to get out of working and to live a 'cushty' life where people can do everything for them.

Do not misunderstand me, I am no way implying that this is what is happening in this thread, I am simply stating that you don't have to be a total inavlid to claim full DLA.

 

It's OK folks, no need to send me anything about the facebook thing. I found her easily enough... BTW why do you use two different surnames SL just curious.

Can I just say though, you folks really should be careful what you have showing as public on there Especially when a lot of members have no problem showing others when you bitch behind their backs ... Like SL did when she took a screen shot of what Sequeena said about me and PM'ed it to me! Why you all have to bitch about folks on there anyway, is beyond me.

Aurelia, the facebook stuff is something that really winds me up, there is absolutely no need for people to be bitching about others on there at all!

Jon got slated when he stood up and made people aware of it! At least he tells ya to your face exactly like it is without being two faced

 

not gunna sit here all day and read the thread, but take this as a message of SUPPORT and ADVICE (dont jump on me)

SL's bf... you have ME, dyslexia, dyspraxia and dietry constraints...you may still be able to work its just a matter of finding a job that suits you. I say this because we have been there. And i hope you take this in the tone that it is meant.

My ex and his younger bro both suffer from, and Manage, ME. His brother also has learning difficulties and has no formal educational qualifications (i think he may have a GSCE is art or something from the Unit he attended in place of school)
Both suffer from dietry issues.

My Ex who is the less afflicted of the two was out of work for 18months accounted for by his ME. We found office work made him worse, and would take him 3 steps back. As would highly repetetive work (data entry type). We also found he became the king of procrastination! And rather than doing useful things he would play WoW all day. This would effect his sleeping - thus make him worse. Eventually he got a break working as a temp in a game shop...6yrs on he is an assistant regional manager. He thrived - it was doing dfferent things and in an area he enjoyed. He has to carefully manage his ME and recognise when to stop. But he does it.

His brother isnt so lucky - shop work doesnt suit him as he struggles with interactions between people and his maths is attrocious - the learning difficulties also strike him out with a lot of office work as well. But he found the outdoors work helped him. Also oddly enough he enjoys interacting with children, as he cant with adults, and so volunteers as a teachers assistant in a primary school.

Although the volunteer work is unpaid, he does it because it helps him feel better. With both of them the less they did the worse they felt. Once they found the RIGHT environment, they feel better in themselves and the ME hits them less, they are forced to keep a rigid routine and so they have good sleeping patterns - it all helps.

 

I've heard really vague mentions of things on FB and the like but I don't know what's gone on or anything about it bar the comments on here about it.

As far as I'm concerned if you don't like somebody then what's the point in talking to them or about them, it makes no sense to me unless they've actually done something awful to you in which case surely a private vent to someone or a couple of friends would be enough..?

I don't really see what this thread does apart from highlight who gets on with who from the type of posts and people 'sharing' their opinion because they have the right to do so as the info has been divulged. I don't see a problem with people sharing their opinion, I'm just not sure what its hoping to achieve on here. There is way too much bickering for my liking and the more it goes on the more I can see why many folk stay in Dog Chat and don't bother with General Chat :thumbup:

 

But your willing to travel about showing your dog? There's lots of people there that you won't know either.... Even if it's local shows!

And you mentioned earlier you had ME? If your that bad, how will you cope with all the travelling/waiting/showing etc etc?

When I was bad I done nothing but rest that week. I went without showers etc just to save enough energy to get to a show. First show I went to in Stafford I was ill for nearly 2 weeks after it and that was with someone else driving. People don't seem to realise how much planning has to go into a simple trip out. I've always pushed myself to get to a show no matter how crap I feel because I enjoy the day out but the second I got through the door home I collapsed in bed and slept until 2/3pm the next day. Luckily I'm well enough now to drive to shows in Stafford etc myself without too much of a problem.

He would have SL there with him at a show for company so he would know someone unlike at a day centre.

 

Assuming you meant dole! been wrcking my brains wondering where doll came into it!
Shouldn't worry about what others say! And let us hope that those that have said things never fall on hard times themselves!

Chin up!

 

Assuming you meant dole! been wrcking my brains wondering where doll came into it!
Shouldn't worry about what others say! And let us hope that those that have said things never fall on hard times themselves!

Chin up!

But this is someone whose finances are so stretched they tried to eat dog food, living under a goverment that is determined to cut benefits.

 

When I was bad I done nothing but rest that week. I went without showers etc just to save enough energy to get to a show. First show I went to in Stafford I was ill for nearly 2 weeks after it and that was with someone else driving. People don't seem to realise how much planning has to go into a simple trip out. I've always pushed myself to get to a show no matter how crap I feel because I enjoy the day out but the second I got through the door home I collapsed in bed and slept until 2/3pm the next day. Luckily I'm well enough now to drive to shows in Stafford etc myself without too much of a problem.

He would have SL there with him at a show for company so he would know someone unlike at a day centre.

I'm not saying that ME isn't debilitating, I just don't understand how - And it was said a few pages back - That if he could prepare his own food, then he'd be too exhausted to eat it! If that is the case then I fail to see where the energy will come from for the dog shows they are planning....

As for getting out and about, if someone really wanted to get out and about then they would do it, there's lots of places apart from day centres to go to

 

I'm not saying that ME isn't debilitating, I just don't understand how - And it was said a few pages back - That if he could prepare his own food, then he'd be too exhausted to eat it! If that is the case then I fail to see where the energy will come from for the dog shows they are planning....

As for getting out and about, if someone really wanted to get out and about then they would do it, there's lots of places apart from day centres to go to

It is a very strange illness to understand to be honest.. my ex used to say that some days lifting a teaspoon felt like lifting a ten tonne weight; and he was a martial arts instructor so very physically fit. Sadly due to ME he had to pack it (teaching) in.

 

It is a very strange illness to understand to be honest.. my ex used to say that some days lifting a teaspoon felt like lifting a ten tonne weight; and he was a martial arts instructor so very physically fit. Sadly due to ME he had to pack it (teaching) in.

I do understand that symptoms can vary from day to day, but surely there is an element of to at least try help yourself, instead of succumbing to the woe is me, can't do this cos I have xyz illness... But when it's something that suits is very willing

 

I do understand that symptoms can vary from day to day, but surely there is an element of to at least try help yourself, instead of succumbing to the woe is me, can't do this cos I have xyz illness... But when it's something that suits is very willing

Cheek and co.. has explained she got through it with pure determination.. I take my hat of to her.. And anyone else.. has has any kind of disability that is trying to give things ago..

 

Cheek and co.. has explained she got through it with pure determination.. I take my hat of to her.. And anyone else.. has has any kind of disability that is trying to give things ago..

I know! And I never said she hasn't, my post isn't about her however... I have time for people who will help themselves and at least try. But there does seem to be a lot of 'can't' won't 'don't' in this thread...

 

SL, I just don't understand why you started this thread If people have already had a go at you about this, did you think they wouldn't defend their viewpoint? It just looks like you're inviting more arguments to me....:confused1:

 

Having slept a little I can see that my replies to this thread are a little OTT. But when you keep doing things like this to someone they eventually snap.

I didn't spend all that time, and many PM's trying to help you for the good of my health ... I just feel pretty crap that you would shite on me from a great height like this.

 

I do understand that symptoms can vary from day to day, but surely there is an element of to at least try help yourself, instead of succumbing to the woe is me, can't do this cos I have xyz illness... But when it's something that suits is very willing

I agree and actually said this in my other post. My ex is now a very successful manager in retail but it took alot of graft and determination to get there and manage the condition, as does his bro

 

If we forget all the health problems of the people involved and if we forget the behavioural problems of one of the existing dogs which IMO should be a primary concern, What I would like to know is what kind of breeder would sell a puppy which is going to be a financial commitment for the next 15 years to someone who is already stretched to the limit with no means of improving things in the foreseeable future.

 

If we forget all the health problems of the people involved and if we forget the behavioural problems of one of the existing dogs which IMO should be a primary concern, What I would like to know is what kind of breeder would sell a puppy which is going to be a financial commitment for the next 15 years to someone who is already stretched to the limit with no means of improving things in the foreseeable future.

thats just what i was thinking last night when i read this thread, but to me the OP changes things when it suits

 

Anyone else want to call me one? While me and my OH who has special diet needs live off £650 a month and I give up normal things like clothes (I walk round in £6 pants), I have not been to a hair dresser since I was 14 years old, I dont go out, my 21st birthday money has all gone on the dogs. So that I can give my dogs EVERYTHING when they need it.

So you tell me who in their right mind would want to live off £650 a month when they have to pay gass, electric, tax and food?

My animals have never missed vet treatment, never missed a vaccine, never missed out on toys every month, they get the best food, they have their monthly medication, they get health tested.

But yeah I am ******* rich arnt I?

How about OAP's they don't get much more, not everyone has a private pension, and if you have you loose most of it in tax.

 

though benifits were for people to live of not dogs

 

I started off feeling sympathy for the OP, but the more I think about this the angrier I get and the more I believe that no-one on the dole should be allowed to breed or show dogs , an expensive hobby at the best of times

I was led to believe that life on the dole was hard and that the money barely stretched from one week to the next , but from what im hearing here it sounds like both me and my OH would be better off on the dole than working , we wouldnt be as tired and would have mnore time to do what we wanted
and my Daughter could go on the dole too , then she wont have to work and can stay home with her kids , like she'd love to , instead of having to get a child minder

sorry if people dont like my post ... but its how I feel , dole money isnt there to indulge expensive hobbies, its for day to day living while people look for work ... if someone wanted to indulge themselves in a hobby like dog breeding/showing then they should get a job and fund it themselves instead of taking tax payers money to do it

 

though benifits were for people to live of not dogs

Thats what i questioned in an earlier post, apparently anyone on benefits have to have enough to keep them out of poverty and these 2 have put themselves in poverty no new clothes, little food etc tbh i begrudge paying taxes to pay for someone to by dogs and fund the showing bills.

 

I started off feeling sympathy for the OP, but the more I think about this the angrier I get and the more I believe that no-one on the dole should be allowed to breed or show dogs , an expensive hobby at the best of times

I was led to believe that life on the dole was hard and that the money barely stretched from one week to the next , but from what im hearing here it sounds like both me and my OH would be better off on the dole than working , we wouldnt be as tired and would have mnore time to do what we wanted
and my Daughter could go on the dole too , then she wont have to work and can stay home with her kids , like she'd love to , instead of having to get a child minder

sorry if people dont like my post ... but its how I feel , dole money isnt there to indulge expensive hobbies, its for day to day living while people look for work ... if someone wanted to indulge themselves in a hobby like dog breeding/showing then they should get a job and fund it themselves instead of taking tax payers money to do it

A agree with you their.. you shouldn't live out of your means.. xxx

 

though benifits were for people to live of not dogs

LOL - 20 odd years ago when I was 18 I worked for the rent office at the council - we had an old fashioned rent officer who told you as it was. If someone came in with a packet of **** saying they couldn't afford the rent he'd ask why they were smoking?
One time a lady came in stating she couldn't afford her rent as she had to buy dog food - she had 4 large GSD's with her - he said don't have dogs if you can't afford them, she left them tied to the desk :scared: