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Im not sure if we have been to Elsecar. Will need to ask my Aunt!

Another place we like that isnt dog friendly unfortunately is Blacker hall farm shop. We always pop in there for breakfast before we get on the road back home.
Blacker hall farm is only 13 minutes away from cannon hall and they also have a large farm shop. There is a steam railway at Elsecar but it isn't dog friendly. The Kirkless light railway is and isn't very far away.

If you use the A1 Northbound then you should stop off at Knaresborough. That is really dog friendly. You can take them to Mother Shipton's cave, walk along the river or walk up the hill to the ruined castle. One of the cafes by the river even sells ice cream for dogs and you can eat inside in all of them.
 
The restaurant at the country park built a dog friendly cafe that serves the same food and has table service. It is so popular that they are building another one with 150 seats and it will even have a dog shower. View attachment 452606
The place near me that did that is now somewhere I avoid with Jack tbh.

The area is cramped and too many of the dogs aren't friendly to others and just don't settle (and their owners oblivious or just cba to control them).

The reason they moved the dogs out of the general area was because many were a pain to other customers, barking etc. Even being tied to chairs and tables which were pulled over/dragged when the dogs lunged (despite notices).

I'm conscious that not everyone loves dogs (especially near food) so am careful not to encroach on others' enjoyment of a place (although Jack just usually settles down and doesn't make a sound).

The toilets are also now out of bounds unless you have someone with you or are prepared to leave your dog tied up alone round the corner in a public area.

When we travel away with Jack I Google dog friendly places and can usually find a cafe or pub that accommodates (outside if not inside). Last week we sat outside a pub to eat and the staff invited us in with Jack, but with Covid we prefer to stay outside in the open.

Jack doesn't like being confined so "tucking in under a table" isn't really an option, so only somewhere that has space for him to lie comfortably without getting in the way is suitable.
 
That’s a shame and only once have I had to be blunt and tell someone to keep their dog away. I have a bag that turns into a bed. He waits until I put it on the floor and he then knows to settle. When I go away I use google and then also do the search on trip advisor. The National Trust includes a choice for a dog friendly search. Mine have been down caves, round a stately home, loads of museums and to wildlife parks. It takes time but I found North Yorkshire has the widest range of places to take dogs.
 
@Jobeth - your post has triggered my memory - we decided not to go to Elsecar as it looked more suited to children.

My 'children' are all adults now. Except for one who just turned 13. Would elsecar be of any interest to us do you think?

Jack doesn't like being confined so "tucking in under a table" isn't really an option, so only somewhere that has space for him to lie comfortably without getting in the way is suitable.
Although they suggest 'tucking under' tables, they are very leniant as can be seen from tilly's picture!

They really mean keep the floor clear so staff dont trip over them. They dont mind at all if the place is quiet or you're seated in a corner - just as long as your dog isnt a trip hazard.

They definitely must stay on the floor though - i have never seen anyone with a dog up at the table and no chance would that be accepted. It really is very civilised.

Going to cafes was an absolute boon for me when tilly was a small puppy. It totally tired her out! It must have been mentally stimulating as i'd go in, have my breakfast, walk home with her (like 7 or 8 mins) and that was her out for the count! Thinking back, i think it worked till she was well over a year old!
 
We have travelled to many places in the UK with our dog and have visited countless pubs and cafes. Our favourite holiday park allows dogs in one area of their clubhouse. The town we live in is also very dog friendly and we take our dog (now dogs!) to the pub once a week. She knows the pubs/cafes and will try to drag me in! In the 5 years we have had Dottie I honestly can't recall seeing a dog cause any problems, I have seen children making a nuisance of themselves on many occasions though!
 
The Kirkless light railway is and isn't very far away.
That's another one we did from your suggestion! We found that amazing garden centre at the top of the hill with a fab dog shop within it. And dog friendly cafe! Not the garden centre cafe - we found that other one across the road first. Was fab!

We come down on the motorway. I have been to knaresborough before though many many years ago.
 
That's another one we did from your suggestion! We found that amazing garden centre at the top of the hill with a fab dog shop within it. And dog friendly cafe! Not the garden centre cafe - we found that other one across the road first. Was fab!

We come down on the motorway. I have been to knaresborough before though many many years ago.
The garden shop has a different owner and isn't as nice any more. You can still eat inside and the pet section is good.

They've got a few shops at Elsecar but I go to walk the dogs. The walk around the reservoir is nice and so is along the canal or in the woods
 
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Assume no unless a yes is explicitly stated somewhere in their own advertising (Tripadvisor sometimes says, but I don't trust that unless backed up by themselves). Restaurants and hotels are especially unlikely compared to pubs and cafés.

Is there a reason you're wanting to take her everywhere with you? Perhaps instead work on home alone training?
Thanks so much for your reply @Torin :) The reason why is because, so often, I don't spend enough time with my dog (between working hours, meeting up with friends, etc.) and I want to change that. I have a couple of friends who have dogs and they feel the same. We'd like to meet together with our dogs, but first want to know where we can go.

The only places I've seen are the ones you mentioned - Google Maps, Tripadvisor - mainly for restaurants.

Let's see. Thanks again!
 
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It isn't 100% reliable, some places that allow dogs aren't listed and of course policies can change but in the whole it isn't bad. They rate places not only on customer reviews but also on type of food - none, basic and a bit more special if that makes sense - a basic food place can still be great quality but if you are looking for something more like restaurant quality you can see where you can get that.
Thanks @JoanneF - never heard of this. Sounds interesting, thank you.
 
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If you have moved to a new area, ie not just a brief visit, there are often local community groups on Facebook and the like that are a mine of information re good places to take dogs (and other local info too)
Thanks @Tyton ! I've found Facebook not very reliable or trustworthy unfortunately. That's why I'm mainly looking for an app - maybe by dog owners for dog owners, you know?
 
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Most places around here have outside seating, and dogs are usually welcome to sit outside.
However, my idea of an unobtrusive dog doesn't seem to coincide with what others consider unobtrusive.

When we were in a very dog friendly town last weekend, we sat at a table outside and a man with 4 dogs with questionable leash manners sat at a table a good bit away from us, his dogs periodically barking at other dogs, passers by, the air... It wasn't constant, but enough that it wasn't exactly pleasant either.

I've also seen people let their dogs sit in their laps and put their front feet on the table or lick plates. I mean, I know the restaurant is going to clean the plates in the deep cleaner steam thing all restaurants use, but still, that's not okay IMO.
Penny did sit on my lap but no way was she touching my food, and no way would I let her put her feet on the table either.

I get wanting to take your dog with you, but not all dogs are ready yet to go out in public like that.
@O2.0 - you're so right! I totally agree. It all depends on whether your dog is well mannered or behaved. Licking those plates would have come as shock to me too.
 
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Personally, my dog is like my family, so it's not strange to bring him to the restaurant or places I go to. For me, that's important.

Regarding the website or app to find dog friendly places in your city, @Cristina Cruz, I found that Tripadvisor was not really accurate in what they were showing as "dog friendly".

While searching this weekend, I found this app which is launching soon by the looks of it and focused on discovering dog friendly places, activities, events, etc., > it's called doggies in town

I'm also going to check out the other suggestions everybody shared in this post, so thanks!
 
Personally, my dog is like my family, so it's not strange to bring him to the restaurant or places I go to. For me, that's important.
My husband is my family but I don't bring him to a lot of things with me simply because he would not enjoy it. If I want to go eat Thai food, I bring my daughter or go with a friend as my husband and son don't like Thai food.

I think that's an important point too. Not all dogs enjoy being brought on every outing with their owners. Some dogs find a restaurant setting overwhelming. Some dogs have FOMO and having to sit quietly under the table instead of investigating everything happening is near torture. My old dog used to come out with us, now having to lay on hard ground would be very uncomfortable for him, and as a 90 pound dog, bringing a bed for him that's cushioned enough for him to be comfortable just isn't practical. I'd be toting a small mattress around with me! Some dogs would just rather go for a long walk and sit in the quiet of the car while owners have a quick bite (*puts on flackjacket after mentioning dogs in cars*)

It's not that bringing a dog to a restaurant is strange or that people who choose not to don't love their dogs as much. Some dogs may not want to sit under a table in a restaurant for however long it takes their owners to have a meal. The dog's feelings should matter too.
 
My husband is my family but I don't bring him to a lot of things with me simply because he would not enjoy it. If I want to go eat Thai food, I bring my daughter or go with a friend as my husband and son don't like Thai food.

I think that's an important point too. Not all dogs enjoy being brought on every outing with their owners. Some dogs find a restaurant setting overwhelming. Some dogs have FOMO and having to sit quietly under the table instead of investigating everything happening is near torture. My old dog used to come out with us, now having to lay on hard ground would be very uncomfortable for him, and as a 90 pound dog, bringing a bed for him that's cushioned enough for him to be comfortable just isn't practical. I'd be toting a small mattress around with me! Some dogs would just rather go for a long walk and sit in the quiet of the car while owners have a quick bite (*puts on flackjacket after mentioning dogs in cars*)

It's not that bringing a dog to a restaurant is strange or that people who choose not to don't love their dogs as much. Some dogs may not want to sit under a table in a restaurant for however long it takes their owners to have a meal. The dog's feelings should matter too.
Mine would far rather be in the car though they do occasionally come in a cafe with us if we happen to be out with them. We stopped off at an outside cafe last weekend half way round a walk but if it had been at the end of the walk they would have gone in the car. I cant imagine taking them in an actual restaurant as they would not enjoy it and neither would I and you never know if the person on the next table might be uncomfortable. And my dogs are definitely members of my family. I just went out with a friend for tea and a scone, never crossed my mind to take my husband or the dogs!
 
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