Bloody hell well we wont be able to spend even a small fraction of that on shows maybe one show that costs upto £25 to enter and mainly shows in our area there are like 5 between now and june i think.

There are some very serious breeders on this site..
And SL knows and they are in it to show their dogs and breed the best they can.. they know what they are talking about.. They have helped SL where they can. Only to have her and Other of this site slated on Facebook!

5 shows between now and June is not taking it seriously.. and the way the last threads have gone on its like someone is taking the michael.. especially as recently SL has been a person to jump on others about breeding..

I bet you guys really regret putting up about scorcher now.. but you see its opened people eyes.. and its only through your doing that people on here have the opinions they have!

I am afraid I do agree with the majority.. If you want to breed and show.. go and and get a job! You already have two Shelties a CKC and Scorcher.. And seriously its not cheap feeding dogs as I am sure you know.. and keeping them in tip top condition is equally as expensive..
SL painted a picture she was going to breed the Shelties she could worked it all out.. was going to Campaign these dogs.. But hello how long have you had the current Shelties and not even sought help for ring craft.. If not to get the dogs known just to give you the experience you obviously need!

You two have brought all of this on yourselves.. And I do not recall anyone calling you Doll dossers or Dole Dossers.. But TBO the way you describe yourselves!

 

Question?????????????????????

So you are employed and have a good job and own a dog.

Now if you loose your job, or you are now retired and are on a state pension are suppose to rehome your dog/s or just take them to the vets and have them killed.????????????????????????????????????????

In that case you do what you can to get by. These are allready in that situation with nothing about to change

 

SL how many dogs do you own atm?

They have 4 two shelties and one CKC and Scorcher

 

We're not putting scorchers welfare aside in favour of a new pup, even if we didn't get the pup now one day we'd be getting one and scorcher doesn't show any signs of going any time soon.

Because we can.

You may want to struggle but what about all your dogs welfare?

What if SL became sick and couldn't care for you both?

What if the government reduced your benefits?

What provisions have you made for all your dogs incase you or SL'S mum health became worse which meant that you couldn't be at home for example?

I'm sorry I don't accept your answer BECAUSE WE CAN I think you need to think about your lifestyle and disposable income.

 

Question?????????????????????

So you are employed and have a good job and own a dog.

Now if you loose your job, or you are now retired and are on a state pension are suppose to rehome your dog/s or just take them to the vets and have them killed.????????????????????????????????????????

state pension is not a benifit you worked and payed for it

 

No it's not any different and they are just as bad too, to abuse money given to them to pay for necessities not luxuries.

It does go on necessities. A kid isn't a necessity but people still have them on benefits and getting a dog is like planning to have a child!

 

From what ive read on previous thread isnt breeding expensive????? and with all the risk and potential further cost I personally dont see how someone on benefits can afford to do its properly. IMO. We work full time and I KNOW we couldnt afford you have to live within your means

 

They have 4 two shelties and one CKC and Scorcher

:scared: crikey and they want another pup!
We had 2 labs and hit VERY hard times and we couldnt the two. I honestly dont know how they can feed 4 dogs aqnd a pup and themselves on benrfits

BUT i hear disability pays well for some..... I know of a few people on disability benefit and live like royalty.

 

Bloody hell well we wont be able to spend even a small fraction of that on shows maybe one show that costs upto £25 to enter and mainly shows in our area there are like 5 between now and june i think.

err have you never picked up a "Dog World" or "Our Dogs" newspaper??

Tonnes of upcoming shows at the back to enter and tells you how much it is to enter per class etc

 

Question?????????????????????

So you are employed and have a good job and own a dog.

Now if you loose your job, or you are now retired and are on a state pension are suppose to rehome your dog/s or just take them to the vets and have them killed.????????????????????????????????????????

We are not talking about people losing jobs and going on benefits but people already on them who are struggling yet want to buy more dogs and expensive ones too and then go on to breed and show them (more expense)

People circumstances do change, but if you are already on benefits with no sign of improvements why put more pressure on yourselves?

 

:scared: crikey and they want another pup!
We had 2 labs and hit VERY hard times and we couldnt the two. I honestly dont know how they can feed 4 dogs aqnd a pup and themselves on benrfits

BUT i hear disability pays well for some..... I know of a few people on disability benefit and live like royalty.

Apparently they are not in receipt of disability And lets not forget them planning to breed...

 

Question?????????????????????

So you are employed and have a good job and own a dog.

Now if you loose your job, or you are now retired and are on a state pension are suppose to rehome your dog/s or just take them to the vets and have them killed.????????????????????????????????????????

That is just being over-dramatic for effect.

However some people do need to make hard choices, if it is impossible to keep dogs on the income you have, then sometimes there is no option but to try and rehome and if that is not an option then dogs do get put down unfortunately.
A medium sized dog costs about £2500 a year to keep well, so do the math.

 

:scared: crikey and they want another pup!
We had 2 labs and hit VERY hard times and we couldnt the two. I honestly dont know how they can feed 4 dogs aqnd a pup and themselves on benrfits

BUT i hear disability pays well for some..... I know of a few people on disability benefit and live like royalty.

I would love to know how, our friends don't.

 

4 dogs all paid for by xmas and birthday money, dont think so. If that was so why isnt there enough money from benefits to by clothes haircuts and more food.

 

That is just being over-dramatic for effect.

However some people do need to make hard choices, if it is impossible to keep dogs on the income you have, then sometimes there is no option but to try and rehome and if that is not an option then dogs do get put down unfortunately.
A medium sized dog costs about £2500 a year to keep well, so do the math.

Blimey 10 grand to keep four dogs then.. and that is without breeding and showing crikey..

 

Apparently they are not in receipt of disability And lets not forget them planning to breed...

Right ok, if thats the case then the most they will be on is a couples clain of £103.00 per week, after their own food, bills and dog food what on earth is left to show and breed?
We buy dog food in bulk and it costs us about £45 every 4 months at the moment and thats with (1) dog!
There is no way anyone could affors 5 dogs, food, bills, and everything else on 412.00 per month!

 

taking aside all the benifits etc... if i was a breeder i would never sell a puppy to someone who has a problem dog. I would advice them to work on that dog first, sort out the problem before even considering a new addition.

I wonder if the breeder is aware of the whole situation the pup will be put in.

 

Right ok, if thats the case then the most they will be on is a couples clain of £103.00 per week, after their own food, bills and dog food what on earth is left to show and breed?
We buy dog food in bulk and it costs us about £45 every 4 months at the moment and thats with (1) dog!
There is no way anyone could affors 5 dogs, food, bills, and everything else on 412.00 per month!

They get £650 a month as stated by themselves earlier on in the thread..

 

Yes was going to say too she has stated they get £650 a month not including rent.

 

They get £650 a month as stated by themselves earlier on in the thread..

well then they have to be getting something extra because the norman couples claim is 103.00 per week.

 

Right ok, if thats the case then the most they will be on is a couples clain of £103.00 per week, after their own food, bills and dog food what on earth is left to show and breed?
We buy dog food in bulk and it costs us about £45 every 4 months at the moment and thats with (1) dog!
There is no way anyone could affors 5 dogs, food, bills, and everything else on 412.00 per month!

They did say they got £650 per month

 

I am coming over to the UK to sign on and spend all day with my precious dogs and then show and breed! What a life!

 

Here is all of our dog food bought with money we have put aside:

1 full 35 L Box + 1 half full box 35 L Box + 1 3.5 L Box - Royal Canin

Half full 80 L Box - Simpsons

 

Yes was going to say too she has stated they get £650 a month not including rent.

The rent will be paid for and all the council tax.

 

I am coming over to the UK to sign on and spend all day with my precious dogs and then show and breed! What a life!

welcome to the land of plenty:thumbup::lol::lol::lol::lol: