[Acacia86]

Why do you actually want a new pup at this moment in time?

Is this a solely breeding litters matter?

Apparently showing then breeding.

I'm finding this all very confusing and I'm NOT having a go....I find myself saying that alot in this Thread

But If someone Called me a name on a Thread..I'd deal with it on the thread in Question...And forget it.

I Would'nt start ANOTHER Thread with the Title of the name they'd called me in the 1st place...You see the name they called you everytime you come on to Gen Chat.

It just brings it all back up again..I'd want to Sort it Deal with it and not see the name they'd called me in again...

Doe's that make sense????

No one called her/him/them a dole dosser!

I'm sorry, this is going to sound bad but I don't really know any other way to say it - you two need to grow up and get a grip. No offence but if you don't like getting other peoples opinions on your life then dont post a thread asking for them ? I'm sorry but what do you expect people to think? I have serious health issues too - my heart - this year alone i had a heart attack, my heart stopped for three minutes and as the weather has got steadily colder I have passed out randomly. The pain is horrible half the time and it means i don't sleep very well at all - hence being a night owl occasionally :lol:. They thought it was stress that makes it worse, but now they think it is cold too. They've been unable to find a medication I can take that I don't have an allergic reaction to and that actually works. I still work. I still have a pretty damn good life. I don't let it hold me back, i never will. Fair enough, I have no problems with people being on benefits if they cant find work ect but I fail to see why you feel your OH needs looking after 24/7 when ovbiously the authorities disagree? What would happen to your OH and mum when your dog has puppies that will need a hell of a lot of time and attention? You say you are so short of money, yet intend to breed, showing alot first - how do you expect to show your dogs if you can barely afford to live as you say ? If you don't show them then you shouldn't be breeding imo. Showing isn't cheap believe me. I'm sorry to say this, and I hope i'm wrong but the more you post the more things just don't add up for me . Apologies if you find this post offensive, but tbh I think you and your OH need a kick up the backside. x

Bloody good post! I 100% agree. Things definately do not add up and....................ahh i can not be arsed anymore!! I am going to bed with a cuppa and a cold wet flannel for my headache !!

 

[snoopydo]

I dont recall anyone calling anyone a doll doser on that other thread???

Shetland lover Called the post Doll Dosser..( meaning Dole Dosser ) and started the Thread with this ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CALL ME ONE.....

She's referring to this post on the puppy Thread..............

You might live in a large property now, but you're only renting. I'm still failing to see how you're doing all of this on benefits either. But that's not really my business, though it does bother me that I'm sat here and work my ass off doing jobs that ANYONE can do if they really wanted to instead of claiming the benefits I could quite easily claim. Along with that it bothers me that you're both obviously in receipt of enough benefits to mean you can afford to live in a massive house, and do all the expensive health testing breeding requires ... I'm paying my taxes like many others, and this bothers me ... am I along with every other tax payer, paying for you to breed and live in luxury? But that is not really any of my business

 

[deb53]

Everyone seems to think that we are going to get a new puppy and push scorcher aside and ignore her but she can be around while we have the new puppy. We have enough time to spend with scorcher and a new puppy, i know that it will be hard but i think it will be doable.

I agree there will be more litters but not lots of other litters where we get the pick of the litter picked out for us as the most show potential pup.

I just wish we could go back and save scorcher from what has happened to us but we can't we're doing our best so please understand that.

Why not gain experience around the ring showing and then you will meet others and future litters for you to pick.

I think it's something to do with the colours in this litter or something, they will have trouble getting the same colours again. So yes, from what they've posted I think this is solely a breeding matter although i'm sure if i'm wrong they will say ?

To mate with Alaska yes they need a tri. There will be plenty of litters in time to come.

 

[srhdufe]

I cant believe this thread at all. She has already said that she is getting a behaviourist to help with Scorcher

The pup, IF, she gets him will only be used for stud once he is fully health tested, and proven in the ring. If his health tests dont come back 100% then he will be kept as a pet

I for one love shelties and dont see anything wrong with her helping to continue the breed. ESPECIALLY as she is going to make sure the lines are Perfect. Or as near perfect as (dogly) possible!

I think this thread should be left alone. Its not fair for people who dont know her to comment

 

[Devil-Dogz]

ESPECIALLY as she is going to make sure the lines are Perfect. Or as near perfect as (dogly) possible!

I dont understand that - what do you mean? what lines? & in what way?

 

[Acacia86]

Everyone seems to think that we are going to get a new puppy and push scorcher aside and ignore her but she can be around while we have the new puppy. We have enough time to spend with scorcher and a new puppy, i know that it will be hard but i think it will be doable.

I agree there will be more litters but not lots of other litters where we get the pick of the litter picked out for us as the most show potential pup.

I just wish we could go back and save scorcher from what has happened to us but we can't we're doing our best so please understand that.

I wish i could go back and save my rescue from certain areas of his life. But instead i dedicated my whole dog owning life to him BEFORE i bought in a new puppy!

Its not effing well rocket science!!!!!

Not only all your dogs, you, her mum, her Gran, caring, cooking, cleaning and cats SL is going to have a new pup to look after AND showing the new addition?! I want the time she finds!! I really need it!!!

Anyway i seriously have had enough, no one is going to back down, your not getting what i am saying. I am bored of it all. Good luck........ to your pets.

 

[snoopydo]

I'm getting too confused now...I think i'll go to bed....

Hope it all works out for SL x x

 

[hawksport]

I think this thread should be left alone. Its not fair for people who dont know her to comment

Why make threads if you don't want anyone to comment on them?

 

[srhdufe]

I dont understand that - what do you mean? what lines? & in what way?

I mean if she breeds the new pup. She said she is only going to breed from properly health tested, proven lines

 

[Fuzzbugs!x]

I cant believe this thread at all. She has already said that she is getting a behaviourist to help with Scorcher

The pup, IF, she gets him will only be used for stud once he is fully health tested, and proven in the ring. If his health tests dont come back 100% then he will be kept as a pet

I for one love shelties and dont see anything wrong with her helping to continue the breed. ESPECIALLY as she is going to make sure the lines are Perfect. Or as near perfect as (dogly) possible!

I think this thread should be left alone. Its not fair for people who dont know her to comment

They say they barely have enough money as it is! They haven't shown yet, but somehow have all the breeding planned out . Do you realise how expensive it is to show? Entry fees, petrol costs? I'm just confused as to how someone on benefits can afford to breed and show dogs if i'm being perfectly honest.

 

[SC7639]

I'm sorry, this is going to sound bad but I don't really know any other way to say it - you two need to grow up and get a grip. No offence but if you don't like getting other peoples opinions on your life then dont post a thread asking for them ? I'm sorry but what do you expect people to think? I have serious health issues too - my heart - this year alone i had a heart attack, my heart stopped for three minutes and as the weather has got steadily colder I have passed out randomly. The pain is horrible half the time and it means i don't sleep very well at all - hence being a night owl occasionally :lol:. They thought it was stress that makes it worse, but now they think it is cold too. They've been unable to find a medication I can take that I don't have an allergic reaction to and that actually works. I still work. I still have a pretty damn good life. I don't let it hold me back, i never will. Fair enough, I have no problems with people being on benefits if they cant find work ect but I fail to see why you feel your OH needs looking after 24/7 when ovbiously the authorities disagree? What would happen to your OH and mum when your dog has puppies that will need a hell of a lot of time and attention? You say you are so short of money, yet intend to breed, showing alot first - how do you expect to show your dogs if you can barely afford to live as you say ? If you don't show them then you shouldn't be breeding imo. Showing isn't cheap believe me. I'm sorry to say this, and I hope i'm wrong but the more you post the more things just don't add up for me . Apologies if you find this post offensive, but tbh I think you and your OH need a kick up the backside. x

I am sorry for your problems, yes you may be able to cope with what is happening to you and i'm glad there is actually medication out there you might be able to take without allergic reactions. You may still have a pretty good life, well so do i but that doesn't mean its not without its problems and complications.

Unfortunately there is no medication for my problems and yes we are skint but we are planning to go to all of the shows in our area and there are actually quite a few, my parents provide transport as they want to see us go places.

And as for a kick up the backside thanks that helps sooo much if all i ever needed was a kick up the backside to make my life better i think i would have thought of it already!

The authorities don't disagree they just don't want to shed out any more money than they can get away with and when i tell them my problems apparently i don't have any of them but they don't ask me to come for some sort of assessment so how in the hell are they supost to know!

 

[rocco33]

Originally Posted by Fuzzbugs!x
I'm sorry, this is going to sound bad but I don't really know any other way to say it - you two need to grow up and get a grip. No offence but if you don't like getting other peoples opinions on your life then dont post a thread asking for them ? I'm sorry but what do you expect people to think? I have serious health issues too - my heart - this year alone i had a heart attack, my heart stopped for three minutes and as the weather has got steadily colder I have passed out randomly. The pain is horrible half the time and it means i don't sleep very well at all - hence being a night owl occasionally . They thought it was stress that makes it worse, but now they think it is cold too. They've been unable to find a medication I can take that I don't have an allergic reaction to and that actually works. I still work. I still have a pretty damn good life. I don't let it hold me back, i never will. Fair enough, I have no problems with people being on benefits if they cant find work ect but I fail to see why you feel your OH needs looking after 24/7 when ovbiously the authorities disagree? What would happen to your OH and mum when your dog has puppies that will need a hell of a lot of time and attention? You say you are so short of money, yet intend to breed, showing alot first - how do you expect to show your dogs if you can barely afford to live as you say ? If you don't show them then you shouldn't be breeding imo. Showing isn't cheap believe me. I'm sorry to say this, and I hope i'm wrong but the more you post the more things just don't add up for me . Apologies if you find this post offensive, but tbh I think you and your OH need a kick up the backside. x

Spot on - totally agree

 

[srhdufe]

Why make threads if you don't want anyone to comment on them?

People can comment. Thats not what i meant. I just dont see reason for nastiness

 

[Devil-Dogz]

I mean if she breeds the new pup. She said she is only going to breed from properly health tested, proven lines

Proven lines? Im so confused here, never heard of proven lines?

 

[Acacia86]

I am sorry for your problems, yes you may be able to cope with what is happening to you and i'm glad there is actually medication out there you might be able to take without allergic reactions. You may still have a pretty good life, well so do i but that doesn't mean its not without its problems and complications.

Unfortunately there is no medication for my problems and yes we are skint but we are planning to go to all of the shows in our area and there are actually quite a few, my parents provide transport as they want to see us go places.

And as for a kick up the backside thanks that helps sooo much if all i ever needed was a kick up the backside to make my life better i think i would have thought of it already!

The authorities don't disagree they just don't want to shed out any more money than they can get away with and when i tell them my problems apparently i don't have any of them but they don't ask me to come for some sort of assessment so how in the hell are they supost to know!

Doctors note???

If you have been diagnosed with all your problems/conditions...... all the doctor needs to do is provide paper work of some sort and Bob's your uncle!! They can send it direct to them even!

And yes the doc's do it!!

 

[rocco33]

And as for a kick up the backside thanks that helps sooo much if all i ever needed was a kick up the backside to make my life better i think i would have thought of it already!

I don't think Fuzzbugs was referring to your health problems but your priorities as far as your dogs are concerned. And I completely agree with her.

Why do you and Shetlandlover have a desperate need to do everything right now?

 

[Fuzzbugs!x]

I am sorry for your problems, yes you may be able to cope with what is happening to you and i'm glad there is actually medication out there you might be able to take without allergic reactions. You may still have a pretty good life, well so do i but that doesn't mean its not without its problems and complications.

Unfortunately there is no medication for my problems and yes we are skint but we are planning to go to all of the shows in our area and there are actually quite a few, my parents provide transport as they want to see us go places.

And as for a kick up the backside thanks that helps sooo much if all i ever needed was a kick up the backside to make my life better i think i would have thought of it already!

The authorities don't disagree they just don't want to shed out any more money than they can get away with and when i tell them my problems apparently i don't have any of them but they don't ask me to come for some sort of assessment so how in the hell are they supost to know!

You must've misread my post - so far, there isn't any medication i can take . What championship shows are in your area? Because i'm sorry, if you want to breed seriously like you say you do, you'll need to do a damn sight better than open shows! Apologies, but your 'oh my life is so hard' crap doesn't work with me - if your life is so difficult you don't need to add breeding and showing because believe me that'll just make it more difficult ! So what the authorities say you don't have any problems ? ETA: I wasn't referring to your health problems when i said about the 'kick up your backside part', as rocco said - I fully mean in regards to your dogs.

 

[srhdufe]

They say they barely have enough money as it is! They haven't shown yet, but somehow have all the breeding planned out . Do you realise how expensive it is to show? Entry fees, petrol costs? I'm just confused as to how someone on benefits can afford to breed and show dogs if i'm being perfectly honest.

No i dont know how expensive it is, having never showed dogs myself. But i am sure she has thought of that

I dont know what exactly she spends her money on, but those dogs are very well looked after. If she has to go without for the sake of them then so be it

 

[srhdufe]

Proven lines? Im so confused here, never heard of proven lines?

No idea. I am not a breeder. Know very little about it tbh. All i am going by is what she said about getting the dogs tested and trying to improve lines

The pedigrees match and the stud dog itself is a dog she has been interested in, for a long time

 

[rocco33]

she has been like this for months and tried all we can come up with to deal with her problems.

Months is nothing when a dog requires rehabilitation and you haven't tried everything cos you haven't seen the behaviourist yet then there will be the months of rehabilitation work. So please don't make out you have tried everything. In fact, until you see the bahaviourist you haven't even scratched the surface.