If you are the only at there of your breed, colour and divison does that mean you will automatically gets 1st and not have it w/h and be 2nd if your cat weren't good enough?
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Thankyou. Yes 1 day is very tiring indeed.
i did enjoy the show, the judges were v nice people, 1 show person was a bit snotty and 1 was rude about my catIt kinda did for a while and read again and you'll see,their is no issue with B doing 1 day or x amount of days and she doesn't have to explain herself,i asked and suggested what i did on the basis of her previous posts,can't see anyone making an issue out of her choices,hope this helps Izzie,as i said i don't get personally why you pay an expense you didn't have to if your not chasing anything and you don't enjoy the shows thats all,but i guess it really is a girls prerogative to change her mind
but go to another see what happens there. nothing wrong with showing if you're not "chasing" anything. otherwise why show kittens?
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I have to say I really enjoyed my first TICA show and will certainly be doing another one.
I did find the 2 days quite tiring but we were only 15 mins from the show so didn't have the extra travel etc to worry about.
The only thing I found was that there seams to be no continuity to the rings. On Sat we had done 1 ring by 1.30pm and then suddenly at about 2pm we were in and out of the other 5, then on the Sunday we had the opposite we were in and out of rings all morning and had done 5 by 12pm so were hanging around waiting to do the last one.
I think the constant taking in and out of the cages bothered alot of cats and especially as the show went on. We noticed even though they were wiping out the pens alot of them had really started to smell - there were alot of entire males spraying in them - which upset alot of cats bieng put into them.
But all in all I really enjoyed it and would say to anyone thinking about it to give it a go.
Good luck with your next show BW - which one are you doing?
I did find the 2 days quite tiring but we were only 15 mins from the show so didn't have the extra travel etc to worry about.
The only thing I found was that there seams to be no continuity to the rings. On Sat we had done 1 ring by 1.30pm and then suddenly at about 2pm we were in and out of the other 5, then on the Sunday we had the opposite we were in and out of rings all morning and had done 5 by 12pm so were hanging around waiting to do the last one.
I think the constant taking in and out of the cages bothered alot of cats and especially as the show went on. We noticed even though they were wiping out the pens alot of them had really started to smell - there were alot of entire males spraying in them - which upset alot of cats bieng put into them.
But all in all I really enjoyed it and would say to anyone thinking about it to give it a go.
Good luck with your next show BW - which one are you doing?
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I go to all the TICA shows in the UK and some abroad. I mostly take Viking but I decided to give him a rest during the summer and take a couple of his siblings out. However, my husband said for all three shows that I didn't take him he complained all Saturday and Sunday. Meowing all day, grumpy and not at all happy.I think 2 days is unfair on the cats too - even one day at a TICA show is quite stressful for them, with all the to-ing and fro-ing from the rings etc.
I can't believe the people who do all the TICA shows here, and travel to shows abroad as well - I just feel so sorry for the cats
My cats love the shows and anyone who has seen them on the judges table can see that they enjoy the attention and are not stressed at all.
Many cats who go to other registries shows that have only been to GCCF find it very stressful as they are used to being stuck in a cage all day with little or no interaction other than when the judges are there. I been to a number of GCCF shows where the owners have only been there in the morning to put the cat in the cage and appear towards the end of the show to collect their results and pick up the cat. Surely this is worse!
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Hi KK, for our cats at least they all have totally enjoyed the attention,do not find the traveling stressful in any way because our cats really are just that laid back,they get tired naturally at the end of the day, just as they enjoy Gccf or Fb shows,some cats enjoy it and were born for showing etc and some cats just are not,if in any way it was stressful to our cats we simply would not put them thru it,for us it is that simpleI think 2 days is unfair on the cats too - even one day at a TICA show is quite stressful for them, with all the to-ing and fro-ing from the rings etc.
I can't believe the people who do all the TICA shows here, and travel to shows abroad as well - I just feel so sorry for the cats
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Your right B,their is nothing wrong with showing for the crack,i don't get what your saying in "otherwise why show kittens"i did enjoy the show, the judges were v nice people, 1 show person was a bit snotty and 1 was rude about my cat
If you don't think your cat has that special K so to speak why show at all if your not made of money and your not bothered either way,you show kittens and adults because you do think they have the wow factor,you wouldn't take your cat to any show if you thought he/she was rubbish in regards to show quality,why would you take any cat/kitt if you thought he/she was gonna get his/hers botty kicked at every turn?Imo you wouldn'tAs has been explained in previous posts on this thread,thats why some peeps take their cats to certain shows with certain councils,and some chance all 3Please understand what i at least have said in my posts,i have no issue and it's nothing to do with me whether you go to any show at all for x day/s,i was unsure given your previous thoughts on Tica why you were going and as has been said,i suppose it's a girls prerogative to change her mind back and forth,i hope you enjoy whatever day you go and wish you well
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I do find it distasteful that anyone shows a cat that displays any kind of open distress at being shown, no matter what registry. At TICA shows I heard cats 'kicking off' being carried by their owners to and from rings, and at GCCF ones there are those handle with care notices, or the cat that throws themselves at the front of the cage as people pass - seen that one more than one occasion. Any cat of mine that displayed open distress at a show would not be taken again. A show cat is not just about looks its temperament too.
That said, just because a cat doesn't display his/her stress, doesn't mean that the day isn't stressful for them. There are those cats that love the day out, a friend of mine had one, who loved going in the car (so much so he had to go with her to pick up the kids from school) and loved being chatted to by passers by in his pen. Another gets all excited when he sees the show bag come out, but they are in the minority. Its all too easy to get wrapped up in a whole campaign to get your cat a title, especially if allowed to show every weekend, and there's a fine line to taking advantage of a good natured cat that is easily overstepped.
At the end of the day if we are being honest, we show cats for our own benefit, not for theirs
That said, just because a cat doesn't display his/her stress, doesn't mean that the day isn't stressful for them. There are those cats that love the day out, a friend of mine had one, who loved going in the car (so much so he had to go with her to pick up the kids from school) and loved being chatted to by passers by in his pen. Another gets all excited when he sees the show bag come out, but they are in the minority. Its all too easy to get wrapped up in a whole campaign to get your cat a title, especially if allowed to show every weekend, and there's a fine line to taking advantage of a good natured cat that is easily overstepped.
At the end of the day if we are being honest, we show cats for our own benefit, not for theirs
.............................................Your right B,their is nothing wrong with showing for the crack,i don't get what your saying in "otherwise why show kittens"
because you mentioned chasing a title, which of course a kitten can not get. hope that is a bit clearer.
When did I say I didn't think my cat had show potential? I didn't say I had no money to show. Believe me I have plenty of money to spend on my hobby if I so wished. But not a 2 day show when I'm unsure if my cat will even like the TICA format. So why waste money and through it away if you don't turn up for day 2?
,you show kittens and adults because you do think they have the wow factor,you wouldn't take your cat to any show if you thought he/she was rubbish in regards to show quality, why would you take any cat/kitt if you thought he/she was gonna get his/hers botty kicked at every turn?Imo you wouldn't
My Candi doesn't have the WOW factor, she is not of great type as in flashy but she isn't bad. So I still show her! She is ok at shows etc so I show her in the hope to get 2 more ICs to help bi colours to qualify and to promote the breed not just to win stuff as she is no show stopper. So actually I would take a not so great cat to a show!
Likewise with my Caesar who is nice type as the judges have said but not over flashy. Some people like to show for a day out not to have to win. And as mentioned before it's for the owners benefit and certainly not the cats!
As has been explained in previous posts on this thread,thats why some peeps take their cats to certain shows with certain councils,and some chance all 3
that's good to know
i was unsure given your previous thoughts on Tica why you were going and as has been said,i suppose it's a girls prerogative to change her mind back and forth,i hope you enjoy whatever day you go and wish you well
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Biawhiska you said a Kitten cant get a title:::
Your wrong again you can get a Junior Warrant
Toby attended the Felis Britannica Show at Rugby as his final appearance as a kitten. We were delighted to say that Toby won Best In Show Junior on both days (making it five Best In Shows as a kitten) and so he won the FIFE title Junior Winner!
:::Your wrong again you can get a Junior Warrant
Toby attended the Felis Britannica Show at Rugby as his final appearance as a kitten. We were delighted to say that Toby won Best In Show Junior on both days (making it five Best In Shows as a kitten) and so he won the FIFE title Junior Winner!
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Did post a different post,reminded myself that i along with others who have taken the time to answer your questions are wasting our time,so post this on any of the other forums you go on,since your clearly not understanding any of the posts,or any of the Tica titles,rules etc here again is a great link...it can be overwhelming B,maybe someone of the other forums will helpAs i have had better executed debates with my kittens,so here goes
http://www.tica-uk.org.uk/:)
As i have had better executed debates with my kittens,so here goeshttp://www.tica-uk.org.uk/:)
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In TICA a kitten can gain a Regional and International win.
so what the kitten has international winner in it's title?
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Regurgitate just cause you make me smile B:thumbup:Did post a different post,reminded myself that i along with others who have taken the time to answer your questions are wasting our time,so post this on any of the other forums you go on,since your clearly not understanding any of the posts,or any of the Tica titles,rules etc here again is a great link...it can be overwhelming B,maybe someone of the other forums will help
http://www.tica-uk.org.uk/:)
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Yes the Kitten wiill have either RW in its title if it is in the Top 20 All Breed Kittens in the Region or IW if it is in the top 20 in the world
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Being a Regional Winner doesn't necessarily mean that those kittens are the best in the Region though, just that they have the most points. Points can be amassed by going to a show every week. If a owner did show every week and their kitten finalling around the middle to bottom of the 10 finalists. You could have a kitten that is only shown a couple of times that finals best kitten in every ring, but it could still end up with less points than the middling kitten that was shown every week. Which is truely the better kitten though ? As there is only a fairly short window that you can show a cat as a kitten in anyone show year, that is also a factor.
The Junior Warrant make more sense where the kitten has to be given so many BIS, thereby proving that he/she had been the best at a show.
The Junior Warrant make more sense where the kitten has to be given so many BIS, thereby proving that he/she had been the best at a show.
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Wish that was the case my kitten is currently 36th in the World and has 16 Firsts (13 All breed) and 9 seconds. He is nowhere near an International and may only scrape a Regional if another kitten scores more in the next 3 months!
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