If you are the only at there of your breed, colour and divison does that mean you will automatically gets 1st and not have it w/h and be 2nd if your cat weren't good enough?
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Well I have maintained throughout that neither is better/easier/harder than the other just different. I just don't think trying to compare two different systems is helpful. I accept them both for what they are 
one point though in TICA the top 3 BOB ie 1st 2nd and 3rd BOB winners can final in the same ring and in fact in one ring at the weekend the top 3 Maine Coons finalled as they were considered better than 1st BOB winners in other breeds .....
one point though in TICA the top 3 BOB ie 1st 2nd and 3rd BOB winners can final in the same ring and in fact in one ring at the weekend the top 3 Maine Coons finalled as they were considered better than 1st BOB winners in other breeds .....
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I am not aiming my opinions specifically at you, just airing my opinions as is my rightWell I have maintained throughout that neither is better/easier/harder than the other just different. I just don't think trying to compare two different systems is helpful. I accept them both for what they are
I am aware of that, wouldn't enter into a debate without a few facts to hand
plus one of my friends runs TICA club or probably 2, is definitely a show manager for more than one, and is working towards being a judge
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Touche SaikouI am aware of that, wouldn't enter into a debate without a few facts to hand
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with reference to cat count, you only have to look at the Coventry show in December, there were 90 cat rings. You won't get higher than that as the judges are only allowed to handle 250 cats in a day, so with the split of kittens, adults and alters (plus household and new trait), 90 is about the max you will get.
Yes a BIS can beat 250 cats, but that is only one judge's choice. With Tica BIS it is 6 or 7 judges.
My other point about Tica showing. Take two really superb cats, for example seal point siamese, both perfect standard. The judge has to choose one to be a winner. The runner up may be better than ALL the other siamese cats at the show, but because only one can go through, the cat goes no further. With Tica, both are likely to be finalled.
As we have all said, we all like different things, and that is what makes the world go around.
Yes a BIS can beat 250 cats, but that is only one judge's choice. With Tica BIS it is 6 or 7 judges.
My other point about Tica showing. Take two really superb cats, for example seal point siamese, both perfect standard. The judge has to choose one to be a winner. The runner up may be better than ALL the other siamese cats at the show, but because only one can go through, the cat goes no further. With Tica, both are likely to be finalled.
As we have all said, we all like different things, and that is what makes the world go around.
You can't deny this post as not been interesting, a healthy debate
Anyways I just entered a cat into a TICA show :yikes:
Decided to go along again and learn more about them..... We all know TICA & GCCF are very different and each to their own. No one can deny that TICA is a fun day out.
Only doing 1 day though, I'm too poor for 2 days :thumbdown:
Anyways I just entered a cat into a TICA show :yikes:
Decided to go along again and learn more about them..... We all know TICA & GCCF are very different and each to their own. No one can deny that TICA is a fun day out.
Only doing 1 day though, I'm too poor for 2 days :thumbdown:
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Not strictly true, the cat in question would have had to have been judged in an open and awarded BOB by one judge. BIS may or may not be the same judge - for overall highly unlikely for most breeds - plus that BIS decision can be down to a panel!! Several breed shows operate on the panel basis.
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blimey you are easily swayed, I have seen you say several times you are sticking to the GCCF for x, y and z reasons. State on here how nasty and unfriendly you thought TICA shows were. Bit of a debate and you are anyones
You used to be indecisive but now you're not so sure
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I love that saying! :lol:
I am sticking with the GCCF, but surely I can do a tica show if I so wish. No one on here told me to. I was thinking of doing the show way before i started this post so no I am no easily swayed at all!blimey you are easily swayed, I have seen you say several times you are sticking to the GCCF for x, y and z reasons. State on here how nasty and unfriendly you thought TICA shows were. Bit of a debate and you are anyones
You used to be indecisive but now you're not so sure
Also I said some people were nasty at the last tica show, i didn't say the show was. it was the people. but i don't know what your prob is really i can enter any show i like no matter what is said on this forum.
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If your not chasing anything and your not able to do the 2 days,wouldn't you be better waiting for GCCf show especially since you enjoy the travelling etc and the peeps moreyes i know but i just wanted to go to a cat show in the month of the tica show werent no gccf ones i fancied so thought i would go for it. that's all
I've never done 2 days and I never will - couldn't afford the entry fees let alone a 2 night hotel stay
Plus would feel very guilty leaving the rest of the cats (and family) for that long!!
Plus would feel very guilty leaving the rest of the cats (and family) for that long!!
I haven't been able to to a two dayer for a while, expense the exhaustion of it for days afterwards.Im gettin too auld for it all lol.I've never done 2 days and I never will - couldn't afford the entry fees let alone a 2 night hotel stay
Plus would feel very guilty leaving the rest of the cats (and family) for that long!!
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Same as me. If the show was very local then I would consider two days. I have chosen 1 day because of:I've never done 2 days and I never will - couldn't afford the entry fees let alone a 2 night hotel stay
Plus would feel very guilty leaving the rest of the cats (and family) for that long!!
a) the cost of 2 days
b) not being able to stop in a hotel with added costs
c) no one to take care of my cats at home and it not being fair for them
d) my boyfriend likes cat shows but doubt he'd want to do 2 days
e) i don't like the idea of taking my cat to a 2 day show and feel after 1 day my cat is very tired and usually has a nice rest the day after a show which could not happen on a 2 day show and think it would take alot out of my cat
f) my cat has never been shown tica before so not sure they'd enjoy it, let alone 2 days
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One day is exhausting enough, especially if you wear the wrong shoes! Give one day a chance, and I hope you enjoy and then come again
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It kinda did for a while and read again and you'll see,their is no issue with B doing 1 day or x amount of days and she doesn't have to explain herself,i asked and suggested what i did on the basis of her previous posts,can't see anyone making an issue out of her choices,hope this helps Izzie,as i said i don't get personally why you pay an expense you didn't have to if your not chasing anything and you don't enjoy the shows thats all,but i guess it really is a girls prerogative to change her mind
I think 2 days is unfair on the cats too - even one day at a TICA show is quite stressful for them, with all the to-ing and fro-ing from the rings etc.
I can't believe the people who do all the TICA shows here, and travel to shows abroad as well - I just feel so sorry for the cats
I can't believe the people who do all the TICA shows here, and travel to shows abroad as well - I just feel so sorry for the cats
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