The two are not the same nor do they have the same effect or lifespan.

Tardak does not replicate what would happen if your dog was castrated.

Superlorin is a slow release implant which wears off after 6 months or later and may improve your dog's behaviour IF the issues are testosterone related.

I know quite a few very successful competition dogs who have this implant. Talk it over with your vet.

 

Tardak does not replicate what would happen if your dog was castrated.

What does it do then?

 

Not certain about these things but have a look at the food you are feeding as some collies can get hyper on some.

 

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And food, as several behaviourists will attest to, is very rarely an issue in true hyperactivity (which in itself is a rare condition).

Most cases of "hyperness" are due to the animal unable to exhibit self control as it has not been allowed to develop it by careful management.

 

He is on Eden dog food, and has been for around 3 months.

I have booked a double appointment with the vet to talk about different options and a general checkup.

When the children (14, 18 and 21) are out he is lovely, willing to train and quiet. He doesn't seem to be able to handle more activity around him, but he can also get hyper when its just me but there is no aggression. I guess that's because I am more careful not to get him too excited.

 

So can I use it to stop Stan wanting to mate my bitches when in heat?

 

My eldest dog has the Suprelorin implant. I was considering castration as he was exhibiting some behaviours that I thought may be hormone - related. It seems as if they were so I am most likely going to opt for surgical castration. It has been great for me to trial the effect that castration would have on him so that I can make a carefully considered decision.

 

I would certainly speak to your vet about the possibility of the suprelorin implant helping with your collie's general behaviour, but would also wonder whether agility is actually doing more harm than good in your dog's case?

It sounds like he gets very agitated in that environment (noisy, fast moving dogs everywhere), and so might it be an idea to stop his agility classes for the time-being, and work him in a more controlled, quiet environment? - ie either agility equipment in your garden at home, or train him to track using his nose (and therefore brain), or if he has strong herding instincts it could be an idea to look into herding classes for him (only if it is something you would be interested in keeping up though).

 

[QUOTE=Moobli;1063014323]I would certainly speak to your vet about the possibility of the suprelorin implant helping with your collie's general behaviour, but would also wonder whether agility is actually doing more harm than good in your dog's case?

Seeing the vet on Thursday and have an extended appointment

It sounds like he gets very agitated in that environment (noisy, fast moving dogs everywhere), and so might it be an idea to stop his agility classes for the time-being, and work him in a more controlled, quiet environment? - ie either agility equipment in your garden at home, or train him to track using his nose (and therefore brain), or if he has strong herding instincts it could be an idea to look into herding classes for him (only if it is something you would be interested in keeping up though).[/QUOTE]

We are very lucky in that the reactive class still does some agility, only 1 dog in the ring at a time whilst the other dogs are outside the ring in a large field doing reactive exercises set by the trainer. He has very strong herding instincts, its funny watching him round up my 3 cats, however not so funny when he tries rounding up children!! I don't think I would like to do herding. We did think about fly ball, but again it can be excitable for him and there is nothing local to me.

 

Neither, a friend used Suprelorin with her dog, the end result was he was put to sleep after he changed character and became unpredictable, not just towards dogs, but actually bit and wounded one of his owners so severely that they required surgery.

Prior to the injection, he'd been bitching, and his owners wanted to try and reduce this behaviour as he was being run in gundog competitions. The implant is not reversible, once injected it turns into a gelatinous mass which cannot be removed. They found this out after the vet attempted to remove the implant from their dog, nowhere in the information did it state this.

 

Oh dear. That is one thing I am trying to avoid. I have heard both can make them worse and that castrating them doesn't always improve their behaviour either.

 

helenthemum what was your decision in the end?

I have a 9 month old border collie that has started urine marking everything (inside too) along with other testosterone related behaviour and vets/behaviourist has suggested the suprelorin implant due to me being wary of castrating too early as the it is removable (below post states otherwise)
have been doing some research and I have found very mixed feedback!

manythanks and hope all is ok!