Oh nicolas I'm so sorry to hear Riley's weights down .. how much has he lost in the past week then? And of course this could partly be due to coming off the steroids ?

Yes I see a lot of folk on the lymphoma list use chlorambucil .. do you need to give anti-nausea treatment with it or should it be ok?
I do hope he does ok on it ...

Kath

He is on quite a low doseage, so should not have (touch wood) and side effects. She said to look out for any changes in him, if he does to bring him back. He will still be on half a pred every other day with the chlorumbucil and I can also give metronidazole if the diarrhoea persists..we will see I don't want to overload him with drugs, so will keep an eye on him and take it day by day..

 

Sorry to read that Riley is still losing weight hope that although you dont really want to put him on the chlorambucil it may just be what he needs to sort him out.
It does seem to be a bit of a bad time for all the IBD cats at the moment,paws crossed Meeko is still fairly well,not sure about his weight but I dont think he has lost any,may have put on a little.

 

Oh poor Riley, poor Nicola!! Let us know what is said at vets.

Mittens is currently vomiting like a trooper....reading about Riley makes me realise that it could be worse, so keep the diarrhoea horror stories coming everyone, make them up if necessary...Anyway back at vets on Friday so will see if anything can be done for her vomiting. Think her liver problems will severely limit options.

Fingers crossed for some firm stools from Mr Stripey.

Sorry to read that Mittens is not so well at the minute, has the vet given any reason for the vomitting.
Meeko's only outward sign of IBD apart from the weight loss,was the vomitting which I believe is caused by excess acid in his gut.He has been on and off famotidine ,everytime we stop it he starts to vomit again.
This time he has been on it since begining of January and hasnt been sick once,not sure whether it will be appropriate for Mittens with her liver probs but may be worth asking.

 

Sorry to read that Riley is still losing weight hope that although you dont really want to put him on the chlorambucil it may just be what he needs to sort him out.
It does seem to be a bit of a bad time for all the IBD cats at the moment,paws crossed Meeko is still fairly well,not sure about his weight but I dont think he has lost any,may have put on a little.

It was a hard descion, but I just thought I have to try it. Vet did say, although his weight loss his coat condition was not bad, not the worse she has seen him, even tho his fur kind of parts and you can see his skin..odd to describe..

Hope Meeko is leading the way to wellness..

 

Coconut Oil in Your Pet's Diet - YouTube

 

Coconut Oil in Your Pet's Diet - YouTube

Can't get the link to work..can you give overview

 

Can't get the link to work..can you give overview

I've re-posted the link ,I can get it to work okay ............
Coconut Oil in Your Pet's Diet - YouTube

 

I've re-posted the link ,I can get it to work okay ............
Coconut Oil in Your Pet's Diet - YouTube

Thanks..quite interesting..

 

Hi Tao I'm sorry but seem to have lost the thread on Mittens but find it upsetting to hear she's vomitting so much. Its really scarey when this happens. Sally vomitted twice on Monday .. first time for weeks ... and was quiet but is eating again now.

What happens with Mittens .. does she have similar episodes then pick up or it is hard for her to regain the weight-loss?

Kath

Long story so will try to be brief: Mittens is nearly 4, very bad start in life and has suffered on and off over the years with vomiting, diarrhoea and bouts of pancreatitis. All faecal samples, blood tests for infections negative, so vet presumed IBD. Got her on a new diet excluding grains and beef/pork and that seemed to solve the vomiting. Then she got lethargic and started losing weight, so, blood tests and X rays showed pancreatitis and liver problems. She went on 6 week of broad spectrum antibiotics and vitamin b12 injections, put weight back on and muchless lethargic. But new blood tests showed pancreatitis was gone but liver readings no better. Now she is going for further tests, ultrasound and x rays to rule out things like tumours and liver shunt. Then, hopefully some meds for liver problems. In the last week or so though, she has started vomiting again which was the one problem I thought I had solved!!!! And losing weight.

Buffie: am going to ask vet about Famotidine, if it's good enough for gorgeous Mr M it might do for Mittens too.

 

Long story so will try to be brief: Mittens is nearly 4, very bad start in life and has suffered on and off over the years with vomiting, diarrhoea and bouts of pancreatitis. All faecal samples, blood tests for infections negative, so vet presumed IBD. Got her on a new diet excluding grains and beef/pork and that seemed to solve the vomiting. Then she got lethargic and started losing weight, so, blood tests and X rays showed pancreatitis and liver problems. She went on 6 week of broad spectrum antibiotics and vitamin b12 injections, put weight back on and muchless lethargic. But new blood tests showed pancreatitis was gone but liver readings no better. Now she is going for further tests, ultrasound and x rays to rule out things like tumours and liver shunt. Then, hopefully some meds for liver problems. In the last week or so though, she has started vomiting again which was the one problem I thought I had solved!!!! And losing weight.

Buffie: am going to ask vet about Famotidine, if it's good enough for gorgeous Mr M it might do for Mittens too.

"Like" for hoping the famotidine works..we need more good news on this thread please people..

 

Long story so will try to be brief: Mittens is nearly 4, very bad start in life and has suffered on and off over the years with vomiting, diarrhoea and bouts of pancreatitis. All faecal samples, blood tests for infections negative, so vet presumed IBD. Got her on a new diet excluding grains and beef/pork and that seemed to solve the vomiting. Then she got lethargic and started losing weight, so, blood tests and X rays showed pancreatitis and liver problems. She went on 6 week of broad spectrum antibiotics and vitamin b12 injections, put weight back on and muchless lethargic. But new blood tests showed pancreatitis was gone but liver readings no better. Now she is going for further tests, ultrasound and x rays to rule out things like tumours and liver shunt. Then, hopefully some meds for liver problems. In the last week or so though, she has started vomiting again which was the one problem I thought I had solved!!!! And losing weight.

Buffie: am going to ask vet about Famotidine, if it's good enough for gorgeous Mr M it might do for Mittens too.

It is worth a try,it certainly helps Meeko and the good bit about it,is it is only a quarter of a tablet and easy to dispense I hope it can help her,I know Meeko got very upset when he was sick,he hated it.

 

I have used Famotidine quite a lot with my diabetic cats, it really helps when they get flare ups of pancreatitis

 

I have used Famotidine quite a lot with my diabetic cats, it really helps when they get flare ups of pancreatitis

PP's what is your view about using famotidine as a permanent thing.My vet doesnt see any reason not to if it continues to keep the vomitting at bay.

 

.. She went on 6 week of broad spectrum antibiotics and vitamin b12 injections, put weight back on and muchless lethargic. But new blood tests showed pancreatitis was gone but liver readings no better. Now she is going for further tests, ultrasound and x rays to rule out things like tumours and liver shunt. Then, hopefully some meds for liver problems..

Tao, this just caught my eye! How soon after cessation of antibiotics and presumably B12 if this is correct did the vomiting return? It's difficult to be specific without knowing exactly which liver problems she had (though I'd suspect some form of cholangitis in the circumstances) but my first instinct would be to resume the antibiotics/B12 again. I'd be a bit surprised to hear of a liver shunt in a cat of this age-though might just be the case.Have you tried any liver supplements like milk thistle even? Usually it's good practice (precautionary measure) to prescribe in cases of pancreatitis only to support liver.

Another point ( though you may well be aware of this) is that it's important to control the vomiting because it can be a precursor to pancreatitis.

 

Tao, this just caught my eye! How soon after cessation of antibiotics and presumably B12 if this is correct did the vomiting return? It's difficult to be specific without knowing exactly which liver problems she had (though I'd suspect some form of cholangitis in the circumstances) but my first instinct would be to resume the antibiotics/B12 again. I'd be a bit surprised to hear of a liver shunt in a cat of this age-though might just be the case.Have you tried any liver supplements like milk thistle even? Usually it's good practice (precautionary measure) to prescribe in cases of pancreatitis only to support liver.

Another point ( though you may well be aware of this) is that it's important to control the vomiting because it can be a precursor to pancreatitis.

Thanks for your reply, she finished the antibiotics just over a week ago, last vit B12 injection was over a fortnight ago. I think the vomiting started actually before she went off the antibiotics. Unfortunately I have 2 long haired cats and they have both been moulting these last few weeks so I don't always know who has produced a hairball. All I can say for sure is that Mittens has vomited producing a hairball for the last 3 consecutive days and once when on antibiotics, she was sick and there was no hairball just undigested food. There have been other instances but not that I can definitely say she was responsible for.

Vet has mentioned lactulose for her. I have milk thistle on my list to ask him about because I had read about it so am glad you mentioned that too. Think reason for thinking of shunt lies in her very small stature and long standing issues since kittenhood. I am also concerned that she had a very bad reaction to anaesthesia when she was spayed. Not sure if vet really thinks it is a possibility or just wants to rule out before treating for cholangitis, hopefully likewise ruling out tumours.

 

I've re-posted the link ,I can get it to work okay ............
Coconut Oil in Your Pet's Diet - YouTube

Dunno if kitties can metabolise MCFA's ... they don't have much success with flax seed oils ... time to research ......
Kath

 

Long story so will try to be brief: Mittens is nearly 4, very bad start in life and has suffered on and off over the years with vomiting, diarrhoea and bouts of pancreatitis. All faecal samples, blood tests for infections negative, so vet presumed IBD. Got her on a new diet excluding grains and beef/pork and that seemed to solve the vomiting. Then she got lethargic and started losing weight, so, blood tests and X rays showed pancreatitis and liver problems. She went on 6 week of broad spectrum antibiotics and vitamin b12 injections, put weight back on and muchless lethargic. But new blood tests showed pancreatitis was gone but liver readings no better. Now she is going for further tests, ultrasound and x rays to rule out things like tumours and liver shunt. Then, hopefully some meds for liver problems. In the last week or so though, she has started vomiting again which was the one problem I thought I had solved!!!! And losing weight.

Tao ... Did you get her on a good quality probiotic - or kefir if she'll take it - after all those antibiotics her gut bacteria will probably be greatly diminished which would contribute to her further digestive issues.
Kath

 

"Like" for hoping the famotidine works..we need more good news on this thread please people..

Ok a bit of good news then
Sally ate all her hand fed raw chicken breakfast after her Feringo supper, followed by Ferringo dinner, plaice tea and raw chicken supper.

In addition tonight she took over territorial control and actually growled before chasing a neighbouring cat out of the garden. She's hardly ever been known to growl!!

She's now curled up in her tree.

And more good news this morning as she ate a dish of raw turkey with egg plus even more Feringo for brekkies.
She suggests all the ibd kitties give it a try :-0

All the best to the ibd kitties
Kath

 

Tao, this just caught my eye! How soon after cessation of antibiotics and presumably B12 if this is correct did the vomiting return? It's difficult to be specific without knowing exactly which liver problems she had (though I'd suspect some form of cholangitis in the circumstances) but my first instinct would be to resume the antibiotics/B12 again.

Hi Ianthi I personally hesitated to suggest milk thistle cos I know a lot of folk don't use herbs, but this suggests to me that its something allopaths support - is that so then?
But TBH I'd think a good probiotic would be preferable to more antibiotics.

Kath

 

Things are ok here. Was in a panic this morning as did not move off the bed all night and had not eaten his supper..when I got up he did not get up with me like normal but just stayed on the bed. Tried to rouse him and he went into floppy cat mode. Quick txt to work that I am going to be late in.. Left him for a while, put his food dish under his nose, no response.

Tried another atempt and he stood up, but not much interest, picked up phone to call the vet and I heard him eating his breakfast, then he went for a wee..phew!

He had eaten all his meal and on way home I got him a new kong toy, which he has been wrestling so he seems very much fine..apart from he wants to go out I've said no!

Also had bit of a shock as this morning there was a fox in the garden, bold as brass..there are a lot of nesting birds around me, could the fox be stealing the eggs? Was a beautiful animal..

 

Things are ok here. Was in a panic this morning as did not move off the bed all night and had not eaten his supper..when I got up he did not get up with me like normal but just stayed on the bed. Tried to rouse him and he went into floppy cat mode. Quick txt to work that I am going to be late in.. Left him for a while, put his food dish under his nose, no response.

Tried another atempt and he stood up, but not much interest, picked up phone to call the vet and I heard him eating his breakfast, then he went for a wee..phew!

He had eaten all his meal and on way home I got him a new kong toy, which he has been wrestling so he seems very much fine..apart from he wants to go out I've said no!

Hi he gave you quite a start to your day there nicolaa - hope today was more gentle. I suppose you're watching like a hawk with the new drug eh?

Poor Oscar confined to the house in this lovely weather :sad:

Kath

 

Mittens had her scan today and it was the worst possible news. She appears to have a large growth in her liver. Vet says she can only have supportive treatment. I am totally devastated. Will post again when I have got my head together a bit.

 

Mittens had her scan today and it was the worst possible news. She appears to have a large growth in her liver. Vet says she can only have supportive treatment. I am totally devastated. Will post again when I have got my head together a bit.

Oh Tao ... I'm so sorry ... talk to you later - we have lots of ideas for supportive treatments.

Kath

 

Mittens had her scan today and it was the worst possible news. She appears to have a large growth in her liver. Vet says she can only have supportive treatment. I am totally devastated. Will post again when I have got my head together a bit.

Oh no,I am so very sorry to read this There is nothing I can say that is going to make you feel any better xx

 

Mittens had her scan today and it was the worst possible news. She appears to have a large growth in her liver. Vet says she can only have supportive treatment. I am totally devastated. Will post again when I have got my head together a bit.

So sorry to read this news..we are all here for you xx