thanks for all the help guys. it is deffinetly the bakers biscuits that gave him the runs. he's alot better today with alot more energy. hes spent all day trying to round my kids up in the garden. got some skinners coming on the way soon by mail so gonna keep him on boiled chicken and rice until it arrives so im not changing between biscuits. gonna ween my other collie shep onto the skinners aswell so im not buying two different foods everytime

 

Bakers contains carciogens (cancer causing ingredients). Nice.

Where on earth does that information come from ?

My experience is with a nine and a half year old Jack Russell bitch who has had Bakers since she was a puppy. Suddenly developed stomach problems. We were advised to reduce the Bakers and substitute mixer biscuits. Now she won't touch Bakers at all - and she is much healthier.

See my post at http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/39104-gassy-dog-stomach-cramps.html for more details of treatment.

 

thanks for the help guys. and yeh it seems like a mine field. never thought so much of dog food before i joined here last night lol

I was exactly the same as you when i joined, I didn't have a clue about dog foods, thankfully I have learned so much about it from this forum and my 17 week old puppy is doing great, it certainly is a mind field where dog food is concerned but the feeding guides are brilliant, also some of the foods might be expensive to buy but work out cheaper because you feed them less, good luck with your new puppy

 

Where on earth does that information come from ?

In relation to Bakers containing cancer causing ingredients. It's listed as "EC permitted additives and colourings" in the ingredients.

In this case EC permitted additives could and probably do include one or more of the three synthetic antioxidants which are commonly used by pet food manufacturers:

E320 - BHA - Butylatedhydroyanilose
E321 - BHT - Butylatedhydroyutoluen
E324 - Ethoxyquin

These are very good at their job but they are associated with several health problems (including cancer)

Far better on an ingredient list are mixed tocopherols/vitamin C and rosemary extract which does the same thing.

 

In relation to Bakers containing cancer causing ingredients. It's listed as "EC permitted additives and colourings" in the ingredients.

In this case EC permitted additives could and probably do include one or more of the three synthetic antioxidants which are commonly used by pet food manufacturers:

E320 - BHA - Butylatedhydroyanilose
E321 - BHT - Butylatedhydroyutoluen
E324 - Ethoxyquin

These are very good at their job but they are associated with several health problems (including cancer)

Far better on an ingredient list are mixed tocopherols/vitamin C and rosemary extract which does the same thing.

Rep coming at you. You explain better than me.

 

I would also like to point out that each dog is an individual and just because X dog did well on a certain brand doesnt mean that Y and Z dog will do well on it also.

I also agree about the Bakers. My ex has a BC which apparently is very fussy with it's food. He feeds it Bakers and Pedigree wet tins and then phones me up asking why his dog has the runs and what he can do about it. Did I not teach him anything in those 5 years? :mad2:

 

My old boy never did very well on commercial foods - always seemed hungry and his weight would fluctuate - so we used to cook beef mince, carrots, peas and potatoes all together in the pressure cooker to make a very natural stew and he loved it - didnt need to eat as much for him to be satisfied! £4 for the mince, £.80p for carrots, £1 for a bag of peas and £2 for a bag of potatoes = £7.80 for about 3 weeks food! Bargain! No additives, artificial colours or flavourings and I could eat it myself too!

He also had a craving for Irish soda bread - never did he have an upset tummy.


OMG Ive just realised how much I miss him :'(
Sorry x

 

Ahh ******, I've just read up here and I've been giving my 9 week old Bakers puppy dry food.

I have read the sticky about dry food and the best to buy (great post) but I can't see anything for puppy's.

Please could somebody recommend dry food for our pup, I was thinking of changing her to Beta Puppy Food, what's you're thoughts about Beta plz ?

 

Ahh ******, I've just read up here and I've been giving my 9 week old Bakers puppy dry food.

I have read the sticky about dry food and the best to buy (great post) but I can't see anything for puppy's.

Please could somebody recommend dry food for our pup, I was thinking of changing her to Beta Puppy Food, what's you're thoughts about Beta plz ?

Puppies don't need puppy food - it's a money making gimmick, adult food is just fine Beta isn't much better than Bakers I'm afraid.

 

Thanx for the reply SixStar, OK shall I get some Wainwrights then from petsathome ?

 

hes all fine now. has been for a while now as ive got them both on skinners food. he had skitters yesterday but thats coz the cheeky bugger eat my cheesecake:mad2:

 

That's good to hear peanut, they do get us worrying

 

Thanx for the reply SixStar, OK shall I get some Wainwrights then from petsathome ?

Yes. The trays are vey good. Give raw chicken wings as treats so his teeth are clean. :thumbup:

hes all fine now. has been for a while now as ive got them both on skinners food. he had skitters yesterday but thats coz the cheeky bugger eat my cheesecake:mad2:

Fab that he's on Skinners. :thumbup:

 

Thanks very much cinammontoast :thumbup:

 

OP sorry for jumping on your thread

I have a BC lab X and have over the past few weeks changed her to orijen. I had to go back a few steps cause she got runny poos too and take it really slow. Now she is almost fully changed over and is fine.

about the raw chicken wing, many of you will know that she is a gobbler and eats everything. I am worried that if i turned away for a minute she would have the bone down her throat... What are the safety issues for a pup and raw chicken wings or are there any? Also will it upset her digestive system at all/

Thanks
gavs