i breed bulldogs and wouldnt personally cross breed them but know a lot of people with cross breeds, especially staffies and they are great dogs

 

cross breeds often have less health issues as the animals aren't closely related to each other

 

its all the rage at the mo cross breeding dogs, god knows why
take the lab x poodle started by disabled charities for there nature,
you get it just as well nature in pedigree dogs,
ok they done it for a reason,
but you look on sites and see so meny dogs being crossed with something other
i have had both crossed and pedigree's.
never had any trouble with any
although ped's can have problems and need the checks before breeding.

although i dont think you should breed crosses as so meny in rescue
but if by accident ok cant be helped

 

cross breeds often have less health issues as the animals aren't closely related to each other

I thought this was the case too... but I've since heard someone say it's the other way round?? what is the facts on this?

It seems to be quite trendy to have crosses these days eg - cockapoo, Labradoodle etc.. do these dogs have problems?

Is it ok to cross similar breeds such as two types of bull breed etc?

 

my family have had a mix of both cross breeds and pure breeds of good pedigree with all health checks and have had more health problems with the kc dogs than the cross breeds. I agree that there is a fad of charging very high prices for these dogs whitch should be stoped. There is a place in this world for all types of dogs as long as people do not breed ANY dogs that have health isues. I also firmly believe that any dog not intended for breeding should be neutered or spayed to prevent any unwanted pups whether they are cross bred or pure breeds, this in itself would help a little with the over population of dogs.

A friend of mine owned two cross bred dogs, he did breed from them once but only when there was many people he knew who wanted a pup and asked him if he would consider having a litter as his dogs had such a good nature, he had his dogs health checked and decided to go ahed with mating them.

All pups had homes before they were born as do many pedigree pups, and both adult dogs were spayed/neutered after, so no further litters, to me this was a well thought about mating and all pups went to good homes.

I am not knocking pure breeds as I have a 10 year old chihuahua and used to own a pedigree german shepherd who passed away 2 years ago at 11 years old, as long as it is done in the right way for the better of the breed and for temperament etc and not for money. Many breeders love their animals and do right thing by them and these are the people who should be breeding.

 

I also agree that people who do not want a specific breed of dog should firstly go to rescues to get a dog as there are thousands needing homes.

 

Cross breeding imo is wrong,the rescues are full to bursting point not just through cross breeding but also irresponsible thoughless breeding.

Cross breeds are still likely to have inhereited health issues as there are no dogs/breeds that don't have genetic conditions.

In the present climate it is in my opinion dangerous to cross the bull breeds,you could end up with a "Type" looking dog,which could be seized under the DDA.
Breeders who do cross breed are Irresponsible,it indicates to me they very rarely think of the health & welfare of the dogs & are usually only interested in the money such a litter will bring.

 

I also agree that people who do not want a specific breed of dog should firstly go to rescues to get a dog as there are thousands needing homes.

i totally 2nd that. plenty of dogs with plenty of love to give

 

i totally 2nd that. plenty of dogs with plenty of love to give

The trouble with rescues is they have stupid rules in place which can sometimes make it difficult,so people choose to go to a Breeder.Alot of rescues can also have problems.

 

The trouble with rescues is they have stupid rules in place which can sometimes make it difficult,so people choose to go to a Breeder.Alot of rescues can also have problems.

I agree there are many rules which prevent good people from rehoming dogs and yes some rescue dogs do have problems but they deserve a chance and for those people who do not want a particular breed of of dog this is a good option for them

 

The trouble with rescues is they have stupid rules in place which can sometimes make it difficult,so people choose to go to a Breeder.Alot of rescues can also have problems.

yes thats true...

 

I must admit I show my dogs so on no account would have them neutered.
If my dog had, had anything other than a clear result,then yes he would have been castrated & his showing career would have been over.

My bitch will be spayed at a later date,after I've bred from her.

There is no excuse for accidental litters either,if you have a dog & bitch you keep them apart at all times during her season,or get them neutered.

 

I totaly agree there is no reason for accidental litters, I realise if you have a show dog neutering him is not an option otherwise its the best way if you do not intend breeding

 

Well I think by now that you all know my views on this subject.
Reputable breeders will health test before thinking of breeding. There are different tests done for each breed. I dont agree with mixed breeding for many reasons, I agree with spaying of pets to prevent breeding and think that breeders should insist upon this in an endorsement when selling puppies on - if the puppy is sold as a pet then why breed from it? I do know some who do this and I fully agree with it - if the puppy buyer is a good person they will also agree why its best. Breeding should only be done for the betterment of that breed - the KC have a breed standard for each breed that should be followed when planning breedings. Mix breeding of breeds very close together as Majik has stated in my mind is dangerous - breeding 2 kinds of bull breeds - mastiff breeds etc etc is a recipe for disaster - the temperament of a dog is paramount - I dont agree with pedigree dogs being bred from if they have aggresion problems either - I do agree that owners play a huge role in the way a dog turns out but deliberatly breeding from 2 breeds of dog that have 2 very different temperaments could lead to the problems later in life. We all know that all breeds have a temperament trait and just putting 2 breeds together due to both breeds having a great side to them could also lead to all thats bad in each breed coming out in them too..
There is also the fashion side of the argument - breeding for the money side of things - we have many established breeds already why is there a need to come up with a new breed of dog?
Now to the rescue side of things - I know there is a breed specific rescue for most breeds and thats great as at least the breed is with experienced people who can find the correct family for the dogs, but most rescue centres are over run with cross breeds - all kinds of mixes - they may be cute to look at but their parents havent been health tested - the 2 temprements having been taken into account, so guess work is the only way to know what temperament the dog will have. The cost of some of the mixed breeds sometimes outweigh the price of a pedigree dog but a mongral is a mongral in my eyes - so why charge high prices for certain mixes?
Health issues - yes it could be argued that some mix breeds are healthier than a pedigree dog but only some mixes – what if a breeding took place with 2 breeds who have major health issues???? - by breeding mix's you do leave yourself open to very undesirable traits - why do that when breeds have their own unique breed character? Cross breeding is inconsistant in looks and temp yet reputable breeders are breeding from dogs that have taken years and years to get as close to perfect as they can - they know the breed character traits etc.
Bring money into this and you get the money grabbers– they don’t give a stuff about health or quality – yes some breeders of pedigree dogs can be the same but most are ethical in the way they breed and the bad types of people are often outted by the people in the same breed.
As for accidental litters – why was the bitch not taken to the vet?? There is an injection to abort the litter and they can spey at the same time too……not always the case if you didn’t realize the mating had taken place which in itself is irresponsible – I have an entire male here and not once has he been given the chance to mate with any of my girls – all apart from my old staffy cross are shown hence them not being speyed etc….its irresponsible ownership if accidental.
Well I have said enough in this post

 

on the odd occasion where peeps have phoned where the young bitch has escaped and mated with a dog and does happen if they want to get out they will
or a dog has got into the garden,

told them to get them up the vet as you can get a like morning after pill for dogs but in injection form.
this they have at the end of a season, vets dont like doing it but it does work.

but yes there are far to many crosses and why on earth would anyone want to put 2 different pedigree together to get cross and charge the same as pedigree dogs

well theres fools out there that sadly pay it
so whos the fool the cross breeding person or the person who buys them??
if they didnt buy them then there wouldnt be a market for them

 

Well I think by now that you all know my views on this subject.
Reputable breeders will health test before thinking of breeding. There are different tests done for each breed. I dont agree with mixed breeding for many reasons, I agree with spaying of pets to prevent breeding and think that breeders should insist upon this in an endorsement when selling puppies on - if the puppy is sold as a pet then why breed from it? I do know some who do this and I fully agree with it - if the puppy buyer is a good person they will also agree why its best. Breeding should only be done for the betterment of that breed - the KC have a breed standard for each breed that should be followed when planning breedings. Mix breeding of breeds very close together as Majik has stated in my mind is dangerous - breeding 2 kinds of bull breeds - mastiff breeds etc etc is a recipe for disaster - the temperament of a dog is paramount - I dont agree with pedigree dogs being bred from if they have aggresion problems either - I do agree that owners play a huge role in the way a dog turns out but deliberatly breeding from 2 breeds of dog that have 2 very different temperaments could lead to the problems later in life. We all know that all breeds have a temperament trait and just putting 2 breeds together due to both breeds having a great side to them could also lead to all thats bad in each breed coming out in them too..
There is also the fashion side of the argument - breeding for the money side of things - we have many established breeds already why is there a need to come up with a new breed of dog?
Now to the rescue side of things - I know there is a breed specific rescue for most breeds and thats great as at least the breed is with experienced people who can find the correct family for the dogs, but most rescue centres are over run with cross breeds - all kinds of mixes - they may be cute to look at but their parents havent been health tested - the 2 temprements having been taken into account, so guess work is the only way to know what temperament the dog will have. The cost of some of the mixed breeds sometimes outweigh the price of a pedigree dog but a mongral is a mongral in my eyes - so why charge high prices for certain mixes?
Health issues - yes it could be argued that some mix breeds are healthier than a pedigree dog but only some mixes – what if a breeding took place with 2 breeds who have major health issues???? - by breeding mix's you do leave yourself open to very undesirable traits - why do that when breeds have their own unique breed character? Cross breeding is inconsistant in looks and temp yet reputable breeders are breeding from dogs that have taken years and years to get as close to perfect as they can - they know the breed character traits etc.
Bring money into this and you get the money grabbers– they don’t give a stuff about health or quality – yes some breeders of pedigree dogs can be the same but most are ethical in the way they breed and the bad types of people are often outted by the people in the same breed.
As for accidental litters – why was the bitch not taken to the vet?? There is an injection to abort the litter and they can spey at the same time too……not always the case if you didn’t realize the mating had taken place which in itself is irresponsible – I have an entire male here and not once has he been given the chance to mate with any of my girls – all apart from my old staffy cross are shown hence them not being speyed etc….its irresponsible ownership if accidental.
Well I have said enough in this post

Excellent Post!!!

 

I think cross breed dogs are brilliant! They are not inbred like most kc registered ones and tend to live longer.

 

on the odd occasion where peeps have phoned where the young bitch has escaped and mated with a dog and does happen if they want to get out they will
or a dog has got into the garden,

In my opinion that is irresponsible ownership,you don't leave an in season bitch alone at any time.No excuses.

 

You cannot state "they" there are so many breeds involved in cross breeds - sometimes 2 sometimes bloomin 10 - yes you can be lucky and get a cross breed that suffers no health problems and lives longer but its a game of russian roulette....or like picking a ticket out of a tombolla - you really dont know what you are getting and it scares me just what bad traits of a cross breed will come out ...
Thankyou Sallyanne - I really am trying to get the point across with valid points

 

thats what i tell them

heres a one was going out with my dogs and sprinkle my male took off called him and he didnt want to come back but did, anyway he took off again and this time went after him a bitch in full season lose with owner in woods, VET told him will be ok to take her out after 2 weeks, anyway i put the person straight about season's
he did put her straight on the lead and got her straight home

these are some of the silly questions i get asked about and what should i do
i wish people would do some fact finding when they are thinking about getting a dog
but they dont so stupid things like this happens

 

I think cross breed dogs are brilliant! They are not inbred like most kc registered ones and tend to live longer.

but does anyone want to take the chance of having a cross breed that noone know the linage of? ie both parents could have nasty aggression,
i do own a cross breed myself so i am not saying that i disagree with owning them, but i knew her parents, and i own her because the previous owner was misstreating her. and as someone else said there are hundreds in shelters, personally i wouldnt get one from a shelter as i see it as too much risk round my kids.

 

I have my old staffy from my local rescue who I help out with - we visited many times taking our other dog for visits too - taking them out for walks etc together - let my daughter meet her a few times too - then took the decision to bring her home - shes been a lovely pet and is part of the family being mother hen to all my other animals - she ended up in rescue due to being pupped and pupped and thrown out on the streets when no longer needed - I just fell for her and thankfully it was the right decision to make. With children you can never make a harsh decision when choosing the right dog to be part of your family. Its so heartbreaking to see so many of them sat waiting for a new loving home - but totally understand why some people cannot choose to re home one

 

I'm getting a cross-breed GSD X Border Collie next year, My husband got one this year, it was a set up mating to produce a dog for the sport we take part in, which is a mixture of tracking, searching, agility and obedience, and when you get to a certain level patrol dog work. Both parents are excellent temperament, health and hip scored, and the collie eye tested. All pups are already spoken for from the litter. The pups from the last litter have outstandingly good temperament and work ethic. Why cross the dogs, BC do very well in competition but can be a little small for patrol dog work, and GSD's do not have a long enough working life, for the thousands of hours that go into training them.I currently work a bc, but am looking forward to getting a larger and more powerful dog.

 

I also agree that people who do not want a specific breed of dog should firstly go to rescues to get a dog as there are thousands needing homes.

a rescue dog isn't for everyone!.. I have small children and you can not be sure what a rescue dogs background is... If my kids were a little bit older I would have definately got a rescue dog but at the age they're at I just couldn't risk it!

 

I'm not suggesting it is right for everyone but is a valid option to some people, nothing will suit everyone and an individuals situation will always determin the course and choice they will take.