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Taylorbaby said:

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Nearly everyone who has a kitten from me has enclosed their garden, one recently did it all by herself with the overhang, by buying materials -- she isn't a builder, but found it easy, & it looks great!
no pics, though, as [they are] on my phone,
... another lady completely surrounded her 5-bedroom country house!!, with a outside frame work, and it looks incredible! :laugh: I am very jealous!!
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hi, T-Baby. :)
Just wondered if U'd managed to post pix of the clients' amazing self-constructed kitty condos? - if the photos are still trapped on Ur phone, e-mail them to Ur own e-addy, then open them on screen, save them to the hard-drive or to the desktop, THEN... come to this thread, start a new comment, click the 'upload a file' button on the bottom right [to the immediate right of 'Post Reply'], a drop-down menu appears.
Enter 'today' to search the files efficiently, find the photo-file by looking for the date it was snapped [most software for digital photos date-stamps them automatically as they are taken], highlight it / select, & then click 'Open'. It will download; wait, & once it's 100% transferred, choose 100% / full image, not 'thumbprint'.
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Finally, click 'Post Reply', & the new comment with the lovely photos of their gorgeous DIY condos is ready for prime-time. ;)
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Waterlily said:

I need updated pics 'cos i rearranged their garden, lol , & added tunnels - but here's the basic cage.





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hi, Waterlily -
i know this is a 2012 comment, but the album says it's empty. Any chance U might post pix directly to the thread?
Hoping, & TIA, :)
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Taylorbaby said:

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Nearly everyone who has a kitten from me has enclosed their garden, one recently did it all by herself with the overhang, by buying materials -- she isn't a builder, but found it easy, & it looks great!
no pics, though, as [they are] on my phone,
... another lady completely surrounded her 5-bedroom country house!!, with a outside frame work, and it looks incredible! :laugh: I am very jealous!!
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hi, T-Baby. :)
Just wondered if U'd managed to post pix of the clients' amazing self-constructed kitty condos? - if the photos are still trapped on Ur phone, e-mail them to Ur own e-addy, then open them on screen, save them to the hard-drive or to the desktop, THEN... come to this thread, start a new comment, click the 'upload a file' button on the bottom right [to the immediate right of 'Post Reply'], a drop-down menu appears.
Enter 'today' to search the files efficiently, find the photo-file by looking for the date it was snapped [most software for digital photos date-stamps them automatically as they are taken], highlight it / select, & then click 'Open'. It will download; wait, & once it's 100% transferred, choose 100% / full image, not 'thumbprint'.
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Finally, click 'Post Reply', & the new comment with the lovely photos of their gorgeous DIY condos is ready for prime-time. ;)
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@Stewiesmom said,

Hi all,
i'm new to the site so be gentle! I live in Southampton -- inner city terraced houses, and busy streets.
I rescued a tiny ball of fluff that was due to be put down, as he was having seizures. I still have him, and he is a complete character 2 years on. He was diagnosed with epillepsy & my vet advised to keep him strictly inside. His seizures have all but stopped since he began a raw diet a year ago, which is a massive blessing ... he still gets the occasional seizure.

Keeping him 'strictly house-bound' didn't go to plan, as he can open doors & my flatmate has a habit of not locking them behind him. I'm also a big softie, & like the idea of him being outside, albeit safe outside.

So i looked into installing a cat fence. I saw the wooden rollers & loved the 'non Alcatraz' look, but instead i tried a low-tech, low-cost version with (brackets) attached to the fence, & made my own... with 5-mm wire threaded through sections of garden hose, then through sections of gutter downpipe, passed through the restraint strap holes at each interval. I had 2 rows, angled at 45 degrees.
This worked quite well until he grew - then he could leap over the whole thing easily, if he stood on garden chairs, etc. I could have added rows, but there are high & low spots in the garden, & other "ladders". I scrapped that system; this week, I finished a simple 15-mm chicken wire mesh, stapled atop the fence, & draped over the remaining (brackets), fastened with cable ties... [the new system] works very well, he's tested it non-stop for an escape route.

... i will eventually install a flap... but now, i have this massive pang of guilt, am I doing the right thing?... ..Removing the old system & installing the new [took] almost a year; he found his street legs & made a BFF - the girl cat, 3 doors up. He dotes on her ... lovely to see them play together, & see him enjoy life -- "kitty jail" stops him seeing & playing with his best friend.
But i've also stopped the local bully cats (a gang of 6 i've seen pick on him by turns) entering the garden to upset him at night, when he isn't allowed out.

I know she's chipped - am i crazy, to think of... a chip flap to allow her access ... for play dates, whilst keeping him safe...? I don't like... breaking up ... a lovely friendship.
Should i scrap the whole lot, knowing his seizures are better?!

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Stewie'sMum hasn't visited since Nov-2016, so these are my observations for other cat-owners, rather than a reply. :)
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Taking it in order, "strictly house-bound" as a Rx for an epileptic pet is a very good decision - altho i'd re-phrase it as "safely indoors", since even on this thread, in the past 46 pages, there have been a number of RTAs / HBC & other injuries or fatalities to cats who were not epileptic, had all 4 legs, both eyes & both ears in working order, & so on.
The outside world is neither friendly nor safe for a 10# or less animal.
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Epilepsy is made much-worse by
stress, & stressors are frequent for free-roaming cats: barking dogs, roaring traffic, strangers - some friendly who'd want to pet, some malicious who'd want to hurt - other cats, who may stalk, harass, or attack the intruder, etc. So free-roaming for an epileptic cat is very high-risk. Even if seizures are very rare at home, they instantly become far-more likely when the cat is out of familiar, safe environs, AND unsupervised.
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Behaviorally, the more any action is repeated, the more anyone wants to do it - U wouldn't freely do things that U don't want to do, plus doing them over & over develops a habit. Stewie now has a habit of escaping - he's done it at will for almost a year; it will be extremely difficult to put that genie back in the bottle. :( OTOH, if he were hit by a car, munched by a dog, or otherwise injured, caught a contagion, was lost / chased, etc, illness, injury, & stress all make increased seizures likely. Once he's stressed, getting him un-stressed isn't as simple as taking him into the house & closing the door. His more-frequent seizures could continue, requiring meds / a higher dose, &
every single seizure causes cumulative damage.
We don't know his seizure frequency, but even annual or biannual seizures cause brain-damage. Zero seizures is the preferred status.
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At least 4 ppl posting to this thread had cats die while free-roaming; no matter how much happiness cats get from wandering at will, it can be lethal - even on a cul-de-sac, even on quiet streets, even in a farming district. :( Bad things can happen. "Feeling guilty" for keeping my cat safe is illogical; plus, Stewie wouldn't have become addicted to roaming if the fence issues had been promptly attended to - if he'd gotten out once, & the 1st design was immediately replaced, he wouldn't be "testing it non-stop" at the time of this post.
;) Maybe feeling guilty over allowing him to develop bad habits, would be more apropos. :p Oops. :oops:
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Last, i think installing a locking-flap to allow his girlfriend to visit is perfect - he can have his fun, & BOTH of them can be safe inside the fence, with the bullies & other hazards outside. :Happy Win-win! - Well done.
Just be sure there's a sheltered litter tray, in case of foul weather - don't want the girl to go home with new, unwanted toilet habits.
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@lymorelynn said,

Taylorbaby is no longer a member of the forum...
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Thank U kindly for the update, Lynn. :)
that's a shame, as i was anticipating a few more inventive, amazing, creative kitty-condos. Darn. // I loved the photos on this thread, so many ways to prevent escapes, add enrichment, provide exercise & catwalks, spy-towers, & more.
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Congratulations to the many contributors' cats, who are enjoying their safe outdoor spaces, & well-done to the posters. I really appreciate the pictures, stories, & ideas shared.
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i was anticipating a few more inventive, amazing, creative kitty-condos. Darn. // I loved the photos on this thread, so many ways to prevent escapes, add enrichment, provide exercise & catwalks, spy-towers, & more.
Not mine, Terry, but this one was built by an acquaintance for his beautiful little kitty:

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twenty meters by twenty-six meters, five meters tall, it's attached to a large outbuilding in an "L" fashion, and accessible from both the house and the "airlock" at the front left corner. His beautiful little kitty:

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hmm... unless those are hair-extensions, creating mutton-chop whiskers & tipping the ears, Kitty appears to be a bobcat. :D
Praps Kitty was dressed for a costume party at Hallowe'en?...
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that is indeed a GORGEOUS kitty-condo, & the setting is equally beautiful. :rolleyes: Thank U for posting the photo - a wonderful building job.
Envy is a terrible thing. *sigh* I'm green with it - which seems apropos, as it's Spring. :Happy
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hmm... unless those are hair-extensions, creating mutton-chop whiskers & tipping the ears, Kitty appears to be a bobcat. :D
Praps Kitty was dressed for a costume party at Hallowe'en?...
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that is indeed a GORGEOUS kitty-condo, & the setting is equally beautiful. :rolleyes: Thank U for posting the photo - a wonderful building job.
Envy is a terrible thing. *sigh* I'm green with it - which seems apropos, as it's Spring. :Happy
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I don't think that Gibbs would wear a costume, but if he did, it would probably be a mountain lion getup.

He's an animal welfare rehabilitator, or course, and his Bobcat came to him as a very very young kitten, either lost or abandoned by his Mother. I guess that hand-rearing Gibbs make him un-returnable, since he'd doubtless just lie in front of the door waiting for dinner after months of hand-rearing. He sleeps on the sofa most days - or on what's left of the sofa, since sofas are apparently Bobcats' favorite snacks.

What would you think of this as a cat run?

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/14299189/95-Union-Street-Lockport-NY/

My stonemason thinks it would be relatively simple to partly-disassemble, move here (about eight miles), and then re-assemble adjacent to the guess house. Close to 1200m² and easy to re-fit with screens for Summer and glazing panels for Winter. It's a bit run down, but then the price is an absolute gift because of it.

There are an handful of images on Google of the building in its earlier days:

https://www.google.com/search?q="Un...nms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqirWA2sXTAhWY14MKHUeiC8kQ_AUICCgD&biw=733&bih=432

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1CatOverTheLine said:

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What would you think of this as a cat run?
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/14299189/95-Union-Street-Lockport-NY/
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Incredible! - great bones, just roof & windows to add. // It's on the Historic Reg, tho - can it be moved, or must it stay on site?
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1CatOverTheLine said:

My stonemason thinks it would be relatively simple to partly-disassemble, move ...about 8 miles... then re-assemble adj to the guest house. Near-1200m², easy to re-fit with screens for Summer & glazing panels for Winter. It's a bit run down, but then the price is an absolute gift...
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Without a roof to stabilize the walls, it would def need disassembly to avoid collapse & damage to the brick & stones. I have no idea how difficult that would be, nor how costly - & of course, permits, reassembly, a roof, etc, all add costs to "truck the building 8-miles".
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1CatOverTheLine said:

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What would you think of this as a cat run?
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/14299189/95-Union-Street-Lockport-NY/
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Incredible! - great bones, just roof & windows to add. // It's on the Historic Reg, tho - can it be moved, or must it stay on site?
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1CatOverTheLine said:

My stonemason thinks it would be relatively simple to partly-disassemble, move ...about 8 miles... then re-assemble adj to the guest house. Near-1200m², easy to re-fit with screens for Summer & glazing panels for Winter. It's a bit run down, but then the price is an absolute gift...
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Without a roof to stabilize the walls, it would def need disassembly to avoid collapse & damage to the brick & stones. I have no idea how difficult that would be, nor how costly - & of course, permits, reassembly, a roof, etc, all add costs to "truck the building 8-miles".
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Niagara Historic will allow it to be moved if it's purchased by a private owner. My mason's... uhhh... pretty good. He took five dilapidated old buildings and in three years made this out of them:

http://www.mediaevalbooks.com/yyard.jpg

His answer after he scoped it out structurally and did the measurements was, "I guess I could spend another eighteen months there." The architectural style's more modern, and less, "countrified," but I think it would make a dandy Summertime cat run.

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1CatOverTheLine said,

... My mason's... uhhh... pretty good. He took five dilapidated old buildings and in three years made this out of them:

http://www.mediaevalbooks.com/yyard.jpg
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... given their beauty & functional aspects, I'm curious - what would it take for U to say, "
he's a brilliant mason..." :D
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1CatOverTheLine said,

... My mason's... uhhh... pretty good. He took five dilapidated old buildings and in three years made this out of them:

http://www.mediaevalbooks.com/yyard.jpg
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... given their beauty & functional aspects, I'm curious - what would it take for U to say, "
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The fellow who built the church for that, "si monumentum requiris, circumspice," dude was pretty apt.

By the way, my mason - along with an electricians' crew, four plumbers, four roofers and a general contractor - started with five wooden buildings with almost no utilities and caved-in roofs almost all the way 'round. Tip: always hire old guys who look like they could die to-morrow; they won't move fast, but things will turn out pretty decently in the end.

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1CatOverTheLine said,

The fellow who built the church for that, "si monumentum requiris, circumspice," dude was pretty apt.
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"It is so awful - it is so artificial!"... :)
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1CatOverTheLine said,

The fellow who built the church for that, "si monumentum requiris, circumspice," dude was pretty apt.
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"It is so awful - it is so artificial!"... :)
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It would make a dandy cat run though. Just the front elevation, with the twin towers, although the, "one clock, one big round window," as always puzzled me. Then again, I'm easily puzzled.

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I havent been able to look at every post on here but I have been looking at ideas as I would love to have siamese in the future.

I'm not sure how it would work with our house. We are detatched and our garden goes all the way round our house (including down the sides). We have a front garden that opens out onto a big green space. That just has a small hedge round.

Our back garden is walled with entrance gates at the back with our parking behind - we use the gates a lot so we couldnt really cat proof those. Also the two side fences arent ours so I am not sure how kindly the neighbours would take to huge wire panels going up and I find the fence netting looks a bit like a prison yard!!

So we have a front door that leads straight out into a garden, a kitchen door that leads into the back garden and then patio doors in the dining room that also leads into the garden! Also our lounge windows open out onto our front garden and in the summer we have to open them as it gets so hot.

Not sure how we cat proof the whole downstairs of our house!
 
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