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What are the rules with Non Active register?

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I’m getting a Pedigree Maine Coon kitten soon who is registered as None Active with FIFe and I’m just wondering what that means? Will I be legally obligated to have him neutered once he’s at an age to have that done or does it just mean I can’t use him for breeding? I’m not purchasing him with the intention to breed for profit and he will be a loved pet but I did want to breed him with one of my moggy cats once he was old enough just once because I thought the kittens would be cute, am I allowed to do that or could I get in trouble for that? I’ve never bought a pedigree cat before and have no idea how it works so I’m hoping someone can explain the rules to me.
 
#2 ·
Any cat on the non active register must not be bred from and if not neutered before leaving the breeder I expect you will have to sign a contract agreeing to neuter him by a certain age.
He could be non active for health reasons - not that he is unhealthy but could pass on a genetic condition to any kittens.
Breeding him with a moggy or even another Maine Coon would be unethical and against his breeder's wishes.
 
#3 ·
It's a really bad idea to breed because kittens are cute. They are hard work, and pregnancy, kittens & lactation all pose risks to female cats. The risks are small but they are real. Your entire female moggies are also at risk of pyometra, znd at more risk of breast cancer than if spayed.

Please get your moggies neutered and him castrated.
 
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I have 4 of my moggies fixed apart from the one I thought about breeding because she's not old enough yet, I was unsure on whether or not to have her fixed or breed her once when she's old enough I know it's seen as unethical because of how many cats and kittens there already are in shelters I just wanted the experience of raising kittens in all honesty and thought my new Maine Coon would have made a good fit if I decided to go ahead with it.
 
#14 ·
Find a local rescue and offer to foster a mum with kittens, in a couple of months many will be looking for foster homes.

There are so many moggies looking for homes, it's really unethical to create more just because you think they'll be cute.
I would love to do that but the rescues near me have strict rules so I've never been able to foster or adopt because I live in an upstairs apartment with no garden and a lot of them need to be solo cat homes too and I have 4 cats (soon to be 5)
 
#5 ·
Non active. He shouldn't be bred frim and should be neutered as soon as your vet will do him.
If you leave him without doing with the intention if breeding him to one of your moggies it could be 12 months easily before he figured it out BUT from 6 months he's likely to be pissing up your curtains up your furniture up your wa paper marking his territory and he'll your house will stink and that smell doesn't just go away. If you leave him and go through all that then get him neutered there's every chance he still might spray everywhere because you didn't neuter him in time as a kitten and then there's the aggression, some boys can become very aggressive towards other cats even queen's if frustrated and even towards people, now imagine a cat that size deciding he's going to go for you.
 
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There's nothing stopping you from breeding but you could only sell the kittens as mixed breed and not registered. You can't get into trouble for it.
The census on this forum will be very against you doing this, though. So be ready for those replies.
Original breeder can take the cat back if they find out, as it goes against contract and is effectively illegal. If you sign a contract that you'll neuter and you breed instead, you're liable to end up in small claims court.
 
#18 ·
It really isn't about rules, it's more about morals.

You're buying a kitten who is not registered as Active, which means his Breeder does not want him bred from, and you're planning to mate him to your moggy girl, presumably of unknown ancestry, and produce a litter of moggies, when so many are holed up in Rescues and Shelters, in desperate need of loving homes.

There is not one single good reason to proceed with your plan, but so many reasons not to.

The responsible thing to do here would be to have your female spayed now and have the male neutered asap. It absolutely is not acceptable to bring more moggies into the World because you would like the experience.
 
#22 ·
FIFe doesn’t have an active / non active register like GCCF does. However FIFe member clubs such as Felis Britannica can have national rules and in the U.K. a breeder can request a pedigree to be stamped not for breeding. This means no offspring could be registered in any bona fide registry.
You may not sign the contract until the day you collect the kitten.

have you thought your boy may be not for breeding for a reason?
 
#23 ·
Actually the breeder can take buyers to court if they fail to neuter, and breed from non active cats which they sold as a pet only. It can and it has happened. Only a complete fool with no moral base would encourage someone to breed fron a non active cat.

Depending on your country most pet kittens are neutered before leaving the breeder, along with a fairly strict contract which will be signed either just prior on upon collection. As the kitten is FIFE I'm assuming not UK, as that is not a commonly used registry here.
I'm in the UK, I asked the breeder and he won't be neutered before leaving her and she said it's my obligation to neuter him.
 
#24 ·
FIFe doesn't have an active / non active register like GCCF does. However FIFe member clubs such as Felis Britannica can have national rules and in the U.K. a breeder can request a pedigree to be stamped not for breeding. This means no offspring could be registered in any bona fide registry.
You may not sign the contract until the day you collect the kitten.

have you thought your boy may be not for breeding for a reason?
I'm not sure why he's not for breeding, they've been health tested and are healthy with no underlying issues so it might just be preference of the breeder to not have her kittens used for further breeding
 
#25 ·
I see you've given "cute" and "for the experience" for wanting to breed. I hope no-one thinks those would be good reasons for having a human baby, and nor are they good reasons for allowing or causing kittens to be bornn
I don't see the issue if I'm fully capable of looking after the kittens, they wouldn't be left and dumped they'd be well cared for.
 
#27 ·
There seems to be is an assumption all will be well. Often it is, but as with human pregnancy & deliver, not always. There isn't an NHS for cats, so you need to be able to lay our hands on potentially several £k if she needs an out of hours section. Very occasionally you have to hand rear which to start with means feeding tiny fragile kittens every 2 hours night & day. Sometimes kittens are born with deformities and have to be pts, sometimes kittens simply die.

If any or all of these things happened, can you cope financially? Emotionally? Do you have sufficient time?
 
#40 ·
It seems that you only care if you are doing something legally wrong and have no consideration for the morals or ethics. You are willing to lie, by omission, if not outright, to the breeder of a kitten.
It's not often I say anything, because as a moderator I try to remain impartial, but I find your attitude towards the advice you have been given reprehensible.
As @Tigermoon has pointed out you could be held legally accountable if you go against the breeder's wishes so, even if you can ignore all of the ethical implications at least bear that in mind.
 
#42 ·
It seems that you only care if you are doing something legally wrong and have no consideration for the morals or ethics. You are willing to lie, by omission, if not outright, to the breeder of a kitten.
It's not often I say anything, because as a moderator I try to remain impartial, but I find your attitude towards the advice you have been given reprehensible.
As @Tigermoon has pointed out you could be held legally accountable if you go against the breeder's wishes so, even if you can ignore all of the ethical implications at least bear that in mind.
I don't understand why it is so wrong for me to breed my kitten that I've paid for and will look after? The breeder obviously has no issue with breeding cats or adding to the population of cats so why is it bad for me to do that
 
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