If you are the only at there of your breed, colour and divison does that mean you will automatically gets 1st and not have it w/h and be 2nd if your cat weren't good enough?
Biawhiska
I am not aiming my opinions specifically at you, just airing my opinions as is my rightWell I have maintained throughout that neither is better/easier/harder than the other just different. I just don't think trying to compare two different systems is helpful. I accept them both for what they are
I am aware of that, wouldn't enter into a debate without a few facts to hand
plus one of my friends runs TICA club or probably 2, is definitely a show manager for more than one, and is working towards being a judge 
Touche SaikouI am aware of that, wouldn't enter into a debate without a few facts to hand
with reference to cat count, you only have to look at the Coventry show in December, there were 90 cat rings. You won't get higher than that as the judges are only allowed to handle 250 cats in a day, so with the split of kittens, adults and alters (plus household and new trait), 90 is about the max you will get.
Yes a BIS can beat 250 cats, but that is only one judge's choice. With Tica BIS it is 6 or 7 judges.
My other point about Tica showing. Take two really superb cats, for example seal point siamese, both perfect standard. The judge has to choose one to be a winner. The runner up may be better than ALL the other siamese cats at the show, but because only one can go through, the cat goes no further. With Tica, both are likely to be finalled.
As we have all said, we all like different things, and that is what makes the world go around.
Yes a BIS can beat 250 cats, but that is only one judge's choice. With Tica BIS it is 6 or 7 judges.
My other point about Tica showing. Take two really superb cats, for example seal point siamese, both perfect standard. The judge has to choose one to be a winner. The runner up may be better than ALL the other siamese cats at the show, but because only one can go through, the cat goes no further. With Tica, both are likely to be finalled.
As we have all said, we all like different things, and that is what makes the world go around.
You can't deny this post as not been interesting, a healthy debate
Anyways I just entered a cat into a TICA show :yikes:
Decided to go along again and learn more about them..... We all know TICA & GCCF are very different and each to their own. No one can deny that TICA is a fun day out.
Only doing 1 day though, I'm too poor for 2 days :thumbdown:
Anyways I just entered a cat into a TICA show :yikes:
Decided to go along again and learn more about them..... We all know TICA & GCCF are very different and each to their own. No one can deny that TICA is a fun day out.
Only doing 1 day though, I'm too poor for 2 days :thumbdown:
Not strictly true, the cat in question would have had to have been judged in an open and awarded BOB by one judge. BIS may or may not be the same judge - for overall highly unlikely for most breeds - plus that BIS decision can be down to a panel!! Several breed shows operate on the panel basis.
blimey you are easily swayed, I have seen you say several times you are sticking to the GCCF for x, y and z reasons. State on here how nasty and unfriendly you thought TICA shows were. Bit of a debate and you are anyones
You used to be indecisive but now you're not so sure
I am sticking with the GCCF, but surely I can do a tica show if I so wish. No one on here told me to. I was thinking of doing the show way before i started this post so no I am no easily swayed at all!blimey you are easily swayed, I have seen you say several times you are sticking to the GCCF for x, y and z reasons. State on here how nasty and unfriendly you thought TICA shows were. Bit of a debate and you are anyones
You used to be indecisive but now you're not so sure
Also I said some people were nasty at the last tica show, i didn't say the show was. it was the people. but i don't know what your prob is really i can enter any show i like no matter what is said on this forum.
If your not chasing anything and your not able to do the 2 days,wouldn't you be better waiting for GCCf show especially since you enjoy the travelling etc and the peeps moreyes i know but i just wanted to go to a cat show in the month of the tica show werent no gccf ones i fancied so thought i would go for it. that's all
I've never done 2 days and I never will - couldn't afford the entry fees let alone a 2 night hotel stay
Plus would feel very guilty leaving the rest of the cats (and family) for that long!!
Plus would feel very guilty leaving the rest of the cats (and family) for that long!!
I haven't been able to to a two dayer for a while, expense the exhaustion of it for days afterwards.Im gettin too auld for it all lol.I've never done 2 days and I never will - couldn't afford the entry fees let alone a 2 night hotel stay
Plus would feel very guilty leaving the rest of the cats (and family) for that long!!
Izzie
Same as me. If the show was very local then I would consider two days. I have chosen 1 day because of:I've never done 2 days and I never will - couldn't afford the entry fees let alone a 2 night hotel stay
Plus would feel very guilty leaving the rest of the cats (and family) for that long!!
a) the cost of 2 days
b) not being able to stop in a hotel with added costs
c) no one to take care of my cats at home and it not being fair for them
d) my boyfriend likes cat shows but doubt he'd want to do 2 days
e) i don't like the idea of taking my cat to a 2 day show and feel after 1 day my cat is very tired and usually has a nice rest the day after a show which could not happen on a 2 day show and think it would take alot out of my cat
f) my cat has never been shown tica before so not sure they'd enjoy it, let alone 2 days
It kinda did for a while and read again and you'll see,their is no issue with B doing 1 day or x amount of days and she doesn't have to explain herself,i asked and suggested what i did on the basis of her previous posts,can't see anyone making an issue out of her choices,hope this helps Izzie,as i said i don't get personally why you pay an expense you didn't have to if your not chasing anything and you don't enjoy the shows thats all,but i guess it really is a girls prerogative to change her mind
I think 2 days is unfair on the cats too - even one day at a TICA show is quite stressful for them, with all the to-ing and fro-ing from the rings etc.
I can't believe the people who do all the TICA shows here, and travel to shows abroad as well - I just feel so sorry for the cats
I can't believe the people who do all the TICA shows here, and travel to shows abroad as well - I just feel so sorry for the cats
i did enjoy the show, the judges were v nice people, 1 show person was a bit snotty and 1 was rude about my catIt kinda did for a while and read again and you'll see,their is no issue with B doing 1 day or x amount of days and she doesn't have to explain herself,i asked and suggested what i did on the basis of her previous posts,can't see anyone making an issue out of her choices,hope this helps Izzie,as i said i don't get personally why you pay an expense you didn't have to if your not chasing anything and you don't enjoy the shows thats all,but i guess it really is a girls prerogative to change her mind
but go to another see what happens there. nothing wrong with showing if you're not "chasing" anything. otherwise why show kittens?
I have to say I really enjoyed my first TICA show and will certainly be doing another one.
I did find the 2 days quite tiring but we were only 15 mins from the show so didn't have the extra travel etc to worry about.
The only thing I found was that there seams to be no continuity to the rings. On Sat we had done 1 ring by 1.30pm and then suddenly at about 2pm we were in and out of the other 5, then on the Sunday we had the opposite we were in and out of rings all morning and had done 5 by 12pm so were hanging around waiting to do the last one.
I think the constant taking in and out of the cages bothered alot of cats and especially as the show went on. We noticed even though they were wiping out the pens alot of them had really started to smell - there were alot of entire males spraying in them - which upset alot of cats bieng put into them.
But all in all I really enjoyed it and would say to anyone thinking about it to give it a go.
Good luck with your next show BW - which one are you doing?
I did find the 2 days quite tiring but we were only 15 mins from the show so didn't have the extra travel etc to worry about.
The only thing I found was that there seams to be no continuity to the rings. On Sat we had done 1 ring by 1.30pm and then suddenly at about 2pm we were in and out of the other 5, then on the Sunday we had the opposite we were in and out of rings all morning and had done 5 by 12pm so were hanging around waiting to do the last one.
I think the constant taking in and out of the cages bothered alot of cats and especially as the show went on. We noticed even though they were wiping out the pens alot of them had really started to smell - there were alot of entire males spraying in them - which upset alot of cats bieng put into them.
But all in all I really enjoyed it and would say to anyone thinking about it to give it a go.
Good luck with your next show BW - which one are you doing?
I go to all the TICA shows in the UK and some abroad. I mostly take Viking but I decided to give him a rest during the summer and take a couple of his siblings out. However, my husband said for all three shows that I didn't take him he complained all Saturday and Sunday. Meowing all day, grumpy and not at all happy.I think 2 days is unfair on the cats too - even one day at a TICA show is quite stressful for them, with all the to-ing and fro-ing from the rings etc.
I can't believe the people who do all the TICA shows here, and travel to shows abroad as well - I just feel so sorry for the cats
My cats love the shows and anyone who has seen them on the judges table can see that they enjoy the attention and are not stressed at all.
Many cats who go to other registries shows that have only been to GCCF find it very stressful as they are used to being stuck in a cage all day with little or no interaction other than when the judges are there. I been to a number of GCCF shows where the owners have only been there in the morning to put the cat in the cage and appear towards the end of the show to collect their results and pick up the cat. Surely this is worse!
Hi KK, for our cats at least they all have totally enjoyed the attention,do not find the traveling stressful in any way because our cats really are just that laid back,they get tired naturally at the end of the day, just as they enjoy Gccf or Fb shows,some cats enjoy it and were born for showing etc and some cats just are not,if in any way it was stressful to our cats we simply would not put them thru it,for us it is that simpleI think 2 days is unfair on the cats too - even one day at a TICA show is quite stressful for them, with all the to-ing and fro-ing from the rings etc.
I can't believe the people who do all the TICA shows here, and travel to shows abroad as well - I just feel so sorry for the cats
Your right B,their is nothing wrong with showing for the crack,i don't get what your saying in "otherwise why show kittens"i did enjoy the show, the judges were v nice people, 1 show person was a bit snotty and 1 was rude about my cat
If you don't think your cat has that special K so to speak why show at all if your not made of money and your not bothered either way,you show kittens and adults because you do think they have the wow factor,you wouldn't take your cat to any show if you thought he/she was rubbish in regards to show quality,why would you take any cat/kitt if you thought he/she was gonna get his/hers botty kicked at every turn?Imo you wouldn'tAs has been explained in previous posts on this thread,thats why some peeps take their cats to certain shows with certain councils,and some chance all 3Please understand what i at least have said in my posts,i have no issue and it's nothing to do with me whether you go to any show at all for x day/s,i was unsure given your previous thoughts on Tica why you were going and as has been said,i suppose it's a girls prerogative to change her mind back and forth,i hope you enjoy whatever day you go and wish you well-
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