Had CP stated these views whilst on air, then the BBC have a right to 'have a word'.

But they were not so they should butt out.

Just because someone is in the employ of a company, they should still be allowed to have their opinion and to have their say.

 

:thumbup1: Good on Chris for telling the truth .... remembrance day yesterday remember thousands died fighting to keep this country from dictatorship and to allow free speech. We need more people brave enough to actually make a stand and speak up and be a voice for animals very proud of Chris x x x

 

Well done to Chris. I don't see how the BBC have the the right to censor what he said. But then we know the BBC hardly ever like the truth being reported.

 

Had CP stated these views whilst on air, then the BBC have a right to 'have a word'.

But they were not so they should butt out.

Just because someone is in the employ of a company, they should still be allowed to have their opinion and to have their say.

I agree with this in part but it isn't how life works these days. Ordinary people are sacked for things they either tweet or put on FB even though they never name or comment on their employers. He is entitled to his opinion. Whether someone is entitled to use their public persona to ensure their opinion is seen by millions without expecting some reaction is another question.

 

We are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country.
Chris never once mentioned any one personally, he was putting his side, the way he felt across. I expect a lot of people feel the same way.
It had nothing to do with who he works for.

 

We are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country.

We do. He has not been thrown in jail for voicing his opinion. Freedom of speech does not mean you can say anything and nobody should react.

I don't see how the BBC have the the right to censor what he said

They don't and they haven't. Censure and censor are two different words with different meanings.

 

We do. He has not been thrown in jail for voicing his opinion. Freedom of speech does not mean you can say anything and nobody should react.

They don't and they haven't. Censure and censor are two different words with different meanings.

I stand corrected, but i still believe he had the right to voice his opinion, and has done nothing wrong.

 

but i still believe he had the right to voice his opinion, and has done nothing wrong.

I don't know because I haven't seen his contract. I can be fairly sure he wasn't under duress to enter into a contractual agreement with the BBC. It is normal for presenters/personalities to agree not to make controversial comments connected with their position. This doesn't mean I disagree with the content of his comment. I just don't think he's any sort of saint if he's filled his pockets and then breached his contract.

 

I don't know because I haven't seen his contract. I can be fairly sure he wasn't under duress to enter into a contractual agreement with the BBC. It is normal for presenters/personalities to agree not to make controversial comments connected with their position. This doesn't mean I disagree with the content of his comment. I just don't think he's any sort of saint if he's filled his pockets and then breached his contract.

CP promotes wildlife conservation and protection. For him to have said nothing at all on the subject would also have been detrimental to his career because people would no longer respect what he stands for.

The question is this - Is he a conservasionist first & presenter second or the other way around?

Given that he HAS voiced his opinion answers, IMO, that question. He feels strongly enough to stand up and say his piece and I respect him for that. So will many, many others.

And if the BBC decide he is in breach of contract and sack him, there are plenty of other channels who would have him. The BBC would also receive a backlash if they took this action as a lot of people would make their thoughts known on this.

 

CP promotes wildlife conservation and protection.

And makes a pretty penny doing so. He also relies on the cult of celebrity to have his opinions heard as this post shows. Find me a similar tweet from someone who sweeps the streets for minimum wage and turns up to protest when they can. That person I admire.

 

And makes a pretty penny doing so. He also relies on the cult of celebrity to have his opinions heard as this post shows. Find me a similar tweet from someone who sweeps the streets for minimum wage and turns up to protest when they can. That person I admire.

Ah! But this thread wasn't about someone else, it was about Chris Packham & what he said on Twitter.
I assume anyone can have an opinion on anything on Twitter? I am not a member of it, nor likely to be.

 

And makes a pretty penny doing so. He also relies on the cult of celebrity to have his opinions heard as this post shows. Find me a similar tweet from someone who sweeps the streets for minimum wage and turns up to protest when they can. That person I admire.

Cameron makes a pretty penny too ruining our country, and our countryside. But that's another thread.
CP had every right to say what he thought.

 

Is it just me I really can't stand the man he sets my teeth on edge like scratching a blackboard

 

Is it just me I really can't stand the man he sets my teeth on edge like scratching a blackboard

TBH, he doesn't float my boat in any big way but he's had the guts to stand up and say what he thinks on this governments appalling actions so respect to him for that.

 

TBH, he doesn't float my boat in any big way but he's had the guts to stand up and say what he thinks on this governments appalling actions so respect to him for that.

Isn't he the one who is pretty vocal about cats too ?

 

Isn't he the one who is pretty vocal about cats too ?

Might be..... I don't pay too much attention to him so wouldn't like to say for sure.

 

Is it just me I really can't stand the man he sets my teeth on edge like scratching a blackboard

TBH, he doesn't float my boat in any big way but he's had the guts to stand up and say what he thinks on this governments appalling actions so respect to him for that.

Can't say he floats my boat either. But agree with Moggybaby, he does have guts.

 

Why? he hasn't said anything that isn't the truth, and I assume its in his own private time and not on air? He is also expressing a lot of what a good majority of the population feel and agree with anyway.

 

The sooner we abolish the subsidised peado ring that is the bbc, the better. I'm sure glad i dont pay a license fee. Well done chris! Cant stand you (or any cat haters for that matter) but am in agreement with you on this one.

 

Normally I'm shouting for people to be able to say whatever they think even if I don't agree with it. In this case I do agree with what he said but not with his right to use his position as a celebrity to publicise his opinion. If he weren't a public figure nobody would be taking any notice and he's a public figure because he's contractually agreed to be so. All he had to do was wait until he was out of contract. His opinion isn't so different or important it makes any difference to this particular issue.

 

I'm sure glad i dont pay a license fee. Well done chris! Cant stand you (or any cat haters for that matter) but am in agreement with you on this one.

I think he does well to speak up and also speak up on what he considers all all threats and issues to wildlife, he confesses he hates cats, big deal, lots of people don't like cats, and a lot of people don't like the fact cats kill for fun ( it's debated on here often enough, by pet owners) again each to their own, so it's only well done to him if he speaks up on matters that don't effect you He's also pretty vocal about the effects dog have on wildlife too, but has dogs himself...

His thought might not make him popular, but at least he isn't scared of having his voice heard no matter who he upsets.

I own cats and I still like that he goes to battle for wildlife and has such a passion for conservation..

 

Had CP stated these views whilst on air, then the BBC have a right to 'have a word'.

But they were not so they should butt out.

Just because someone is in the employ of a company, they should still be allowed to have their opinion and to have their say.

Usually someone like CP isnt employed, they are self employed albeit with work long or short term

he who pays the piper/dont bite the hand that feeds you, etc

 

he who pays the piper/dont bite the hand that feeds you, etc

He will be snapped up, they knew when he came to the BBC that he was going to be controversial, the BBC played up on that when he replaced Bill Oddie.

Don't employ a gobshite and expect them to be gagged

 

I think he does well to speak up and also speak up on what he considers all all threats and issues to wildlife, he confesses he hates cats, big deal, lots of people don't like cats, and a lot of people don't like the fact cats kill for fun ( it's debated on here often enough, by pet owners) again each to their own, so it's only well done to him if he speaks up on matters that don't effect you He's also pretty vocal about the effects dog have on wildlife too, but has dogs himself...

His thought might not make him popular, but at least he isn't scared of having his voice heard no matter who he upsets.

I own cats and I still like that he goes to battle for wildlife and has such a passion for conservation..

You're right, of course he has every right to hate cats (just as i have every right to hate people who hate cats) :001_tt2:. I still respect the fact that he's standing up for our wildlife - someone needs to.

 

I still respect the fact that he's standing up for our wildlife

So do I. I don't respect the fact that he is happy to agree to contractual terms in return for payment and then break them. I wouldn't respect a builder who took money to do a job and then didn't do what they'd agreed to either. It's no different.