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Young Woman Makes Claims of Abuse & Is Locked Up

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  1. Cleo38

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    ***WARNING - Upsetting Pics in the Link****

    Has anyone seen this story circulating on social media ….. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=253106326035556&id=100040085706228

    Ellie Williamson posted about her abuse online as the police had failed to investigate her claims, hours later she was arrested for breaching her bail conditions (she was previously on a curfew but had been forced to attend a "party" by her abusers & was out later than allowed). They have now charged her with perverting the course of justice & she is currently being held in a women's prison.

    Her sister has posted more information regarding what has happened to Ellie as well as screenshots of text messages threatening Ellie https://www.facebook.com/lucy.williams.5891004?__tn__=,dlC-R-R&eid=ARAAe5lqJAy2-TDLHJrB0YQfpcAVVrMNxGcQgNwttcqtGUJzeL_1-l63jsfh_fAjGOZm_SPwnKogduuo&hc_ref=ARRj_GEmaGgCF9fGEZJpqqsJtP7K--N7bM1U5j__X1UM8NDi4Ob3Db9ML8_blpl8SjY

    Maggie Oliver (who was involved in the investigation regarding the abuse of young women in Rochdale) has become involved & is helping the family https://www.facebook.com/Maggieoliv...VeM67x7EDU_trrKadkKCYPw&__tn__=k*F&tn-str=k*F

    I can't believe this is happening, after everything that came out about previous cases, police cover ups, agencies disregarding evidence provided by victims & basically ignoring the mass abuse of young women that it is still going on :(
     
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    I can’t access the link as I’m not on Facebook.
     
  3. Cleo38

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    This was her initial post …. (I won't add the pics she posted of her injuries over the past few months they are very upsetting):


    "I think this is the hardest post Im ever going to write. Last night I went missing as some of you may be aware as Lucy shared it. Sorry for concerning people I’m safe now. I didn’t want to share this because I’m scared of the judgement that will come with it, it’s why I keep quite about what has happened to me, but people have asked me to tell my story. When people have asked why I have had a black eye or bruises I’ve made every excuse, from falling over to banging it on a door. I didn’t want to share this but people need to know about this local and very real issue. People need to be looking out for young girls and protecting them. If me sharing my story helps raise awareness and helps just one person then it will make this worth while.

    Yesterday I was put into the back of a car, taken to an address to have sex with 3 Asian men. Afterwards I was beaten because I was in debt to these men for not attending “party’s” for over 7 weeks due to crona virus. The organisers of the party decided to beat me to teach me a lesson. They decided that I don’t learn from being battered as I’ve received beatings before but “still continuing to make the same mistakes” so they decided to try and cut my finger off! They then continued screaming in my face, waving a knife around saying they would kill me.

    These are evil yet clever men. They know how to manipulate, convince and threaten girls into staying, when they can’t they use extreme violence! I used to believe that these people loved me, I realise now that they used me for their own gain and profit. They have beaten me on multiple occasions sometimes for no reason at all. They have given me drugs to the point I was nearly addicted to herion! They have stripped me naked, beaten me and dumped me in the middle of nowhere with nothing, I mean nothing, no money, phone, ID, clothes, shoes, nothing! They did this once in winter we’re I got found with bad hypothermia. They have broken my ribs, many bones in my face, they have split my ear, cut my throat, attempted to cut my boobs and nipples off, they have carved words into my body, branded me with letters, they have dislocated my elbow, they have stabbed me, they have burnt me and used me as an ashtray to stump cigarettes out, they have beaten me black. I have had a bleed on the brain from a head injury, I have lost some vision in one of my eyes from being smacked so badly. Now I have had my finger cut. They have put lit petrol rags and threatening letters thru my letter box, they have followed me home, tried to drown me, strangled me and they have stalked me. They have had guns they have waved around and held to my head. They have abused me in every way possible. They have emotionally abused me calling me every name. It got to the point we’re I was being abused all the time and being hit and hurt weekly! I am incredibly lucky not to be dead already! I thought the only way I could escape this life was to marry one of them, get pregnant or kill myself.

    I used to just laugh these situations off, pretend like I was invisible and I would always be okay There’s only so long you can pretend everything is alright before you break. I did break and tried to kill myself to escape. I lost all my self respect and I didnt actually care if I was killed because at least then all of this would be over. I know now that this has gone to far and everything is not okay. I have scares across my body that won’t go away but even worse I have memories that won’t disappear that I can’t forget!

    This has been years of me being trafficked to places across Manchester, Yorkshire, Lancashire and Cumbria. Mostly Leeds, Huddersfield, Oldham, Preston, Blackpool, Lancaster and Morcombe. I have also been to other places as well as attending “party’s” locally in Barrow. This is to have sex with Asian men with me receiving nothing for it. I am not the only girl in barrow who has gone thru this or is going thru this. I know plenty of girls involved including girls from away. This is local men and men from away. These are mostly Packistani men and some are business owners.

    I wish I could name all of those involved but due to current ongoing investigations I’m not aloud. I have spoken and it was the scariest thing I have ever done. My world completely turned upside down and I was a “grass” and it’s been so hard dealing with all these beatings, making excuses and covering things up. I know this is only a temporary stage and once this is done I will feel the biggest relief. I will continue telling the police everything I know and helping them to fix this. I will get the justice I deserve and I will be so proud of myself. I want to encourage any other girl to go to the police and speak and also remind them that this isn’t a normal life.

    I hope me sharing this means that people can notice signs. If anyone suspects a girl to be involved, report it to teachers, social services, child line, police, parents.
    Parents gain trust with your children so they won’t be afraid to tell you things, so they don’t hide things, so they don’t become secretive! Don’t cause unnesassary drama which will push them away from you but closer to there abusers.
    Adults in responsible position look for this in young girls, look for them becoming withdrawn, acting strangely, look for signs of intoxication, drug habits, mental health, look for bruises that they are unable to explain, don’t rule it out, always consider it as a very real possibility.
    Girls open up, speak to your friends and parents, tell someone you trust, you can speak to childline, samarttans, people at the woman’s centre. tell the truth, you will be believed. Please also remember these men will promise you the world and deliver nothing they don’t love you, every word they say is a lie. Also remember if a man asks you to keep it a secret it’s usually because what he is doing is wrong, remember it’s not your secret to keep. Please also remember there are age restrictions on sexual activity for a reason. You should never feel pressured into having sex. You should never be briebed or convinced that it’s the right thing.

    Below are some photos taken of me during this abuse they are disturbing and embarrassing for me but it’s the reality of this abuse. I could post more but this shows enough. Show young girls these photos if you must, might scare them/ teach them it might be fun and nice at the start but this is how it ends.

    I am very lucky to be surrounded by amazing friend/ family/ work collages that have always stuck by me and never given up on me even when I had given up on myself. They have always supported me through the hardest and darkest of times and for that I am forever grateful! They have always given me the strength to continue when I couldn’t find it myself. They have always remained by my side even when I’ve been filled with hate and anger towards the world❤️

    This is not okay, no excuse justifies hurting another human in this way. If anybody needs help or a friend my inbox is always open! please do not hesitate to contact me, I will listen and I will help in anyway possible. You will not be alone and I will understand. Like I said use are welcome to share this story if it helps just one person it will make everything worth while"
     
  4. Cleo38

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    The police have advised they have provided a 'robust' investigation to previous allegations of a Barrow 'grooming gang' but concluded there was no evidence of this, Many people dispute this & have accused the police of not following up evidence & not interviewing victims. It is shocking that this is still happening to young women & that it is being covered up :(

    Ellie is now in a women's prison for speaking out
     
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    Wow this story is hard to follow!
    Why do they think the police is covering this up?
     
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    I think because they haven't interviewed witnesses or victims they were supposed to several times, with the young woman who posted this & with previous victims who have spoken out. There is (justified) lack of trust in the police in certain towns as past cases have shown that the girls who were abused were ignored by them & various agencies or thought of as having made 'lifestyle choices' despite being underage & suffering physical/sexual abuse from adult men.

    Also one of the men involved posted in reply to these claims that he was like Pablo Escobar as he had the local police & journalists in his pocket
     
  7. O2.0

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    That's what I was wondering. That and maybe some important names benefiting from her work?

    What a mess though. Does she at least have a proper lawyer? I wonder if she's shooting herself in the foot posting all her evidence online. Maybe better to collect it all and give it to an excellent lawyer and/or journalist to investigate and blow the whole story open.
     
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    From what I have read she has reported this & nothing was done. I doubt her family have connections or money to invest in a expert legal team (judging by comments) but it seems that Maggie Oliver (an ex detective who was a whistle blower on previous child abuse gangs) has stepped in to help & arrange legal representation for her. Unfortunately girls like this are often ignored ( as was proved with previous cases), no one is interested in them because they come from 'poor', working class areas & are somehow seen as less deserving. I thought things had changed since the cover-ups of previous cases but it seems they haven't ….

    I suppose that although she has now been imprisoned for her posts at least her case is now getting publicity.
     
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    Please do not think in anyway I am in anyway condoning what has happened to this young lady, as she has obviously been, at the very least, wickedly assaulted, whether once or multiple times, makes no difference, its a heinous act
    but
    lets get some of the actual facts, as reported ( and no i dont believe everything i read in the papers, same as i dont believe everything written or shared on the internet)
    shes in prison for breaking bail conditions, imposed in may 2019 ( yes she may well have been co-erced, but when bail conditions are imposed, and then broken, the judge has no choice
    shes also awaiting trial for perverting the course of justice making 7 false allegations between 2017 and 2020 and falsifying evidence

    https://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/18470746.barrow-woman-charged-making-false-rape-allegations-five-men/

    this is fact as to report anything else, when covering court business, would be classed as contempt of court
     
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    I agree to an extent but I think with past cases showing such a lack of understanding to the victims it is worrying that it appears that not much has changed.

    I just wondered if anyone had heard of this story & what their opinion was ….
     
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    I don’t have very much faith in the police at the moment so this shouldn’t come as a huge surprise but it is horrifying. Women and girls being thrown under the bus yet again in the name of community cohesion, this time because the abusers are ‘Asian’ (byword for Muslim) and the victims mostly vulnerable working class white girls. It is by now well documented that this has been going on in communities all over the UK with authorities looking the other way.
     
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    not all Asians are Muslims
    so why make the leap?
    Especially as not one mention of their religion was made
     
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    That’s my point. A lot of the Asian community don’t particularly like being thrown under the bus either by having the term Asian grooming gang thrown about.
     
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    Yes, I seem to remember after the Rochdale case a few Sikh groups were keen to point out that the majority of the abusers were Pakistani Muslim's (of the same/extended family in a lot of cases) & they felt (as I did) that it was relevant to the crimes.
     
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    An interesting (but very worrying) interview with Maggie Oliver regarding a recent released report which revealed senior Greater Manchester Police officers and senior officials at Manchester City Council were aware of the abuse girls suffered but did nothing to act. It is also disturbing to hear that agencies are still withholding evidence & tried to stop the report being made public

     
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    What a horrendous story.:( I dont understand how this girl isnt getting help. if she has had all those injuries she stated then it would be easily verifiable and the age of the injuries would show if it was over a prolonged period. Thats not something you can make up!
    So either she is consistantly making false claims to the police (and apparently very 'accident prone'!:rolleyes:) or she is trying to get help and being ignored presumably coz she isnt seen as reliable. Sounds like there is still something rotten in that police force.
     
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    Same here … but it's a familiar story (so it seems) for these type of cases. In the clip I posted Maggie Oliver speaks about how they had names & addresses of the men involved, along with multiple victim statements (that supported each other) & even DNA from an aborted foetus (from a 13yrd old child who had visited a local abortion clinic for a termination after abuse from these men) but nothing was done for years.

    It was only the other week that I read about one of the victims who bumped in to one of her abusers in Asda after he was released from prison. He was supposed to have been deported yet remains in this country & back in the local area. How terrifying for her & how shameful that this is allowed to happen.

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.c.../child-abuser-supposed-been-deported-18246854
     
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    Any updates? This hasn't made the news at all that I can tell on this side of the pond.
     
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