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Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by Presley, Jul 3, 2009.


  1. Presley

    Presley PetForums Junior

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    Hi Everyone,

    Does anyone know if a 7 year old collie/cross would be of any help to any of the services. I have a very intelligent/focused border collie cross who I feel would benefit from working. However, a lot of the websites I have looked at want pups 8 -18 months old. I don't want to give hime to just anyone. I would be far happier knowing that he is doing some good somewhere and enjoying himself. We feel we are unable to keep him as our lifestyle is not what he needs. He belonged to my Son originally but they both work so we took him on but I think he needs to be with others that understand what he is capable of. He is a lovely dog, very affectionate and loyal with a few behavioural problems. I understand that the Police in particular want a dog that is very focused. i.e keeping his eye on a ball all day!!!! My dog would do this willingly.

    If anyone can give me any tips I would be grateful

    Thanks

    Tracey & Presley
     
  2. Dundee

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    I suspect you will find he is too old and I'm not sure they would take a dog on with behavioural problems.

    I think the best place would be collie rescue for advice. It sounds like he needs a knowledgeable specialised home with someone who is prepared to give him a second chance.

    If you can't find another home, and you can't keep him, as awful as it may seem, the best thing may be to pts. It is extremely difficult to rehome a dog that has bitten and has behavioural problems when young, but few would be prepared to take a dog like this at 7.
     
  3. JSR

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    Sadly he's too old, he may be of some interest to Search and Rescue but usually they want a dog and human combination already established and rarely take on dogs alone.

    Contact Wiccaweys Collie Rescue (google they'll come up) they are the most reputable and trusted rescue for BC's. Very sorry you've had to make this choice, shame for the dog.
     
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    is there any way you could maybe take him to agility and flyball,this will occupy his mind and keep you both happy:)lots of training classes offer this now.
     
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    As the rescue centres are full, it is unlikely you will find him a home.

    Have you looked at ways in which you can address the issue you have with him? You say your life style is not suitable, can there not be adjustments made?

    I have to say, that if I ever had to rehome one of my dogs (hell would freeze over first), then I would put them to sleep. I would not put them in a shelter, where they may not get a home. Is your son local? can he not take the dog back and you look after when you are at work?

    Definitely the police would not take him on, the job the police dogs do is very intense and it is generally something which they train pups, not adult dogs with behavioural issues.

    Hope you work it out.

    PS Tell your son from me... Next time he decides to get a dog, ensure he gets one which he can manage. Collie's are one of the most difficult breeds due to their intelligence, there is not enough thought put into getting a dog and at the end of the day, the dog suffers or the poor parents, like you x
     
  6. Savahl

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    ... anyway...

    I agree with people that say he is sadly probably a bit old, however I would also agree with whoever mentioned agility or flyball... collies and colliecrosses always seem to love these and although my own dog isnt a collie, it certainly helps keep him focussed. :)
     
  7. JSR

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    I most certainly wouldn't advise the dog being PTS, alot of rescues and even pounds are wonderful places and if this is your choice then to contact the breed rescues will give him the best chance at finding his forever home. All my dogs are from rescues and pounds, and apart from the abuse cases if their previous owners hadn't handed them into rescue but had them PTS I'd have missed out on sharing my life with them. So please don't consider have a 7 year old dog who hasn't done anything other than act by his breeding put to sleep. :(

    I do agree if you are only half thinking this is the only option, do try and join some classes and see what the difference in your dog could be!! You might be very pleasantly surprised. :D
     
  8. Dundee

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    I understand that this dog has bitten - I'm sorry, but if an owner cannot deal with this problem themselves and cannot find a knowledgeable home to give him a second chance (through breed rescue would be their only option), then pts would be best. It is not an easy decision and one not to be taken lightly, but it is wholly unfair to the dog and new owner to pass these problems on. I agree (and suggested) contacting breed rescue - they may know someone prepared to take him on, but considering how many rescues without these behavioural issues are waiting for homes, the chances of rehoming a dog with these problems is slim. And as I said, it is not something that you should pass on to anyone else without them being fully aware and experienced enough to deal with it.
     
  9. JSR

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    I can't see where he said the dog has bitten? ;) As someone who has taken on 2 dogs who had bitten there is always someone out there willing to try, maybe it's a small chance but still worth a try before condeming the dog to death.
     
  10. Dundee

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    I agree it's worth a try which is why I suggested breed rescue, but it won't be easy considering there are plenty of dogs waiting for homes already (I'm sure a previous post said the dogs had bitten - but I stand corrected if wrong - and apologise).

    I appreciate your views, but unless a dog with these issues can be rehomed through the proper channels with people experienced and knowledgeable to deal with it, then it would be better to pts. There are many cases where people pass a dog on with such problems only to cause more for the new owners who are wholly unprepared and it leads to disaster. There comes a times when an owner has to take the responsible decision rather than pass it on.

    Regardless, any dog with issues needs careful rehoming - too many simply get passed from one home to another with behaviour getting worse each time.
     
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    Oh absolutely it has to go through the proper channels, I'd never advocate passing on a dog with a tendency to bite to just anyone but as I don't know any history or seen any other posts on the dog biting I was shocked to hear people suggesting PTS as an option for a young dog. To be honest I'd don't advocate dogs being passed to anyone without correct rescue back up but if someone chooses to rehome a dog via that option it's their choice, but obviously an owner with a dog known to bite must be responsible enough to attempt to get a rescue place rather than rehome privately.

    Most of the good BC rescues I know are totally willing to take on a BC that may have 'bitten' in the past as it's well known that what one person interprits (sp) as a bite is in fact a nip from a dog with herding instinct. ;)
     
  12. Presley

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    Thanks to everyone for your advice. I posted earlier in the year and indeed my dog had bitten a family member - actually it was a nip - and it was done out of fear because the dog was being overcrowded because he was new to us and everyone made a b-line for him when they arrived. He has never done it since.

    Lets get one thing straight. I would never ever have a dog put to sleep and I am sure that my vet would not do it to such a lovely animal. I am only trying to do my best by the dog. He deserves much more time spent on him that I can give. With regard to my son, it was his girlfriends dog before they met so it was not easy for him either.

    I will keep trying to re-home him. I do not want to send him to an animal shelter. Hopefully I will meet the right person one day who wants to adopt him. In the meantime he will stay with us until a suitable home is found

    Tracey & Presley
     
  13. JSR

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    Do contact Wiccaweys they will give you rescue back up, if you are willing to keep the dog they will be able to offer you potential new homes, home checking and support if the new home doesn't work out. Valgary's is another BC rescue that is worth a try.
     
  14. Dundee

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    My apologies Tracey - I thought he had bitten.

    I wouldn't try to rehome him yourself though.

    Contact breed rescue (which is nothing to do with animal shelters/pounds etc). They have experienced bc people who will be able to assess him and find the right home for him and act as back up in case of problems. The volunteers in breed rescue are very experienced and going through them is much better than trying to do it yourself.

    I think Wiccaweys has already been mentioned they are very good - and there are others too.

    I would urge you to go through them.
     
  15. Presley

    Presley PetForums Junior

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    Thank you. I think these breed rescue centre might be the right way to go. At least I can contact them and talk to them about my problems . That might help. To everyone who has responded, please be assured that he will NOT be PTS

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