[mrs phas]

Sorry that it's a daily fail link, but I think it's on BBC news too

International cycling and swimming bodies are making a stand in favour of women athletes

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...r-athletes-swimming-cycling-change-rules.html

Edit to add there is

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/swimming/61853450

 

[Lurcherlad]

Excerpt re the swimming body FINA … a common sense approach.

 

[O2.0]

It has been interesting seeing the reaction to the FINA decision. Most of the headlines have used some form of the word "banned" for the transgender athletes and that's interestingly not what the ruling is. No one is banned from competing, you either compete in your sex category or compete in the open category.

It has also been interesting reading some of the comments. The vast majority of people agree with the ruling, including LGBT allies who are also athletes themselves like Martina Naratilova and Caitlyn Jenner.

I've said it before, I don't think the trans activist agenda represents most trans people. I think most trans people are as frustrated with the activists as the rest of us.

 

[Cleo38]

It has been interesting seeing the reaction to the FINA decision. Most of the headlines have used some form of the word "banned" for the transgender athletes and that's interestingly not what the ruling is. No one is banned from competing, you either compete in your sex category or compete in the open category.

It has also been interesting reading some of the comments. The vast majority of people agree with the ruling, including LGBT allies who are also athletes themselves like Martina Naratilova and Caitlyn Jenner.

I've said it before, I don't think the trans activist agenda represents most trans people. I think most trans people are as frustrated with the activists as the rest of us.

I've been reading quite a few articles about this & the word 'banned' seems to be being thrown around as a bit but as you point out trans athletes are not 'banned' from competing at all, they are still able to compete in their biological sex group.

I am so please that this decision has been made for all those female athletes who never have the same attention. money, etc put in to their sectors as the men & have to work so hard to gain the recognition they deserve.

 

[Siskin]

Reading something today that said some of the other British sports associations are looking at the FINA decision with interest and may follow their lead.

A friends son is a water polo coach for a young girls team (teenagers). They take part in a number of events in this country and abroad representing GB. I will have to ask if any trans girls have approached him to be in the team and what he feels about it, just curious really as he feels a huge amount of responsibility for these young girls.

 

[Dimwit]

It has been interesting seeing the reaction to the FINA decision.

Did you see the hysteria on twitter that this would mean that people will DROWN

 

[Siskin]

Did you see the hysteria on twitter that this would mean that people will DROWN

Drown?😱

 

[O2.0]

Did you see the hysteria on twitter that this would mean that people will DROWN

Oh geez, I missed that thankfully! I don't do twitter

 

[O2.0]

he feels a huge amount of responsibility for these young girls.

I feel that too. A good coaching relationship is a very strong bond and you feel so protective of "your" kids.

 

[Cleo38]

This was the tweet @O2.0 ..... WTF?!!! How can a ban on trans women competing in women's swim races lead to higher drowning rates? This ruling has nothing to do with trans people learning to swim Honestly ..... 😲

 

[Siskin]

This was the tweet @O2.0 ..... WTF?!!! How can a ban on trans women competing in women's swim races lead to higher drowning rates? This ruling has nothing to do with trans people learning to swim Honestly ..... 😲 View attachment 573490

How utterly stupid can someone be. The subject was about competition not swimming lessons. There’s obviously 91 other equally stupid people going by the likes

 

[Magyarmum]

This was the tweet @O2.0 ..... WTF?!!! How can a ban on trans women competing in women's swim races lead to higher drowning rates? This ruling has nothing to do with trans people learning to swim Honestly ..... 😲 View attachment 573490

How utterly stupid can someone be. The subject was about competition not swimming lessons. There’s obviously 91 other equally stupid people going by the likes

That reminds me of a conversation I once overheard when Barcelona was hosting the Olympics.

I was sitting having a coffee in a cafe in Fuengirola close to a table occupied by two elderly, blue haired American ladies.

One said to the other "Why is it there are no black swimmers competing in the swimming events?"

The other one replied "That's because black people's skins are porous and if they go in the water they'll just sink to the bottom".

 

[Cleo38]

How utterly stupid can someone be. The subject was about competition not swimming lessons. There’s obviously 91 other equally stupid people going by the likes

I know, it bears no relevence to the ruling at all!

That reminds me of a conversation I once overheard when Barcelona was hosting the Olympics.

I was sitting having a coffee in a cafe in Fuengirola close to a table occupied by two elderly, blue haired American ladies.

One said to the other "Why is it there are no black swimmers competing in the swimming events?"

The other one replied "That's because black people's skins are porous and if they go in the water they'll just sink to the bottom".

Hahahahahaha, OMG!!! 😲

 

[O2.0]

This was the tweet @O2.0 ..... WTF?!!! How can a ban on trans women competing in women's swim races lead to higher drowning rates? This ruling has nothing to do with trans people learning to swim Honestly ..... 😲 View attachment 573490

Oh just the usual logic and reason applied to the argument I see

I was listening to Caitlyn Jenner talking about this on some talk show and the host kept pushing the narrative that trans athletes are being banned, Caitlyn kept coming back with "this isn't about banning anyone, this is about saving women's sports." Which is spot on IMO.

 

[mrs phas]

One said to the other "Why is it there are no black swimmers competing in the swimming events?"

The other one replied "That's because black people's skins are porous and if they go in the water they'll just sink to the bottom

I remember my dad telling me their leg/arm proportions were wrong and their bones were too heavy back in the 70s, probably around the 72 Olympics
And
Then saying Eric Moussambani Malonga, aka, 'eric the eel', in the 2000 Olympics, was proof of the analogy
And
That the 'African' runners were so good, at middle and long distance running ,because they were used to keeping up speeds, over long distances, when hunting zebra, wildebeest etc and running from lions and leopards
But then,
He also told me that lions don't lay with lesser beasts, when I started out dating (he would've killed me and mum had he known I was already on the pill)

 

[Dimwit]

Meanwhile, while trans women are moaning about not being ‘validated’ and having to compete fairly in sport, this American woman could have died…

US woman denied abortion in Malta flies to Spain to terminate pregnancy | Abortion | The Guardian

Andrea Prudente, who was on holiday in Gozo when she began to miscarry, was denied the procedure due to the country’s total ban

amp.theguardian.com

 

[Siskin]

Meanwhile, while trans women are moaning about not being ‘validated’ and having to compete fairly in sport, this American woman could have died…

US woman denied abortion in Malta flies to Spain to terminate pregnancy | Abortion | The Guardian

Andrea Prudente, who was on holiday in Gozo when she began to miscarry, was denied the procedure due to the country’s total ban

amp.theguardian.com

Wow. So presumably a women with an ectopic pregnancy has to die if she can’t afford to go to Spain.

 

[Cleo38]

Meanwhile, while trans women are moaning about not being ‘validated’ and having to compete fairly in sport, this American woman could have died…

US woman denied abortion in Malta flies to Spain to terminate pregnancy | Abortion | The Guardian

Andrea Prudente, who was on holiday in Gozo when she began to miscarry, was denied the procedure due to the country’s total ban

amp.theguardian.com

That poor woman. A horrible & traumatic experience made so much worse for her 😢

 

[Siskin]

I feel so sorry for this man and the position he has now found himself in, but is he right the sue the NHS? He does seem to have been is a desperate state of mind and appears to have panicked and ended up not receiving adequate counselling. I hope he does get help now.

Anguish of young man who had sex organs removed as he SUES NHS

He complains that doctors did not warn him of the drastic outcome of the body-altering surgery which has left him infertile, incontinent and feeling like a 'sexual eunuch'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[StormyThai]

I feel so sorry for this man and the position he has now found himself in, but is he right the sue the NHS? He does seem to have been is a desperate state of mind and appears to have panicked and ended up not receiving adequate counselling. I hope he does get help now.

Anguish of young man who had sex organs removed as he SUES NHS

He complains that doctors did not warn him of the drastic outcome of the body-altering surgery which has left him infertile, incontinent and feeling like a 'sexual eunuch'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I find it a bit hard to believe that a 25 year old would not know the pitfalls of removing their genitals