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Discussion in 'Cat Training and Behaviour' started by Cully, Jan 4, 2020.


  1. Cully

    Cully PetForums VIP

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    It's only when we're outside that he initiates the petting. He doesn't approach me indoors.
    Sometimes when I call Misty in, seconds later I can hear him climbing over the fence. As soon as he hears my voice he thinks, "food" lol.
    Indoors, after eating, he will come to investigate if I hold my hand out to him. But only once he's eaten and feeling relaxed.
    He came in at lunchtime and ate his food. I thought he'd gone back out until I noticed Misty staring at the back of my chair. When I looked, Sooty was having a chew of his catnip banana . :)
     
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    A catnip banana? He chose it over Misty’s blue mouse I made :eek:?
     
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    NO, he's not allowed her blue Mr Mousey. He has 2 nip toys and a small valerian pillow which are kept on a mat behind my chair. If he's got his own he's less likely to poke around in her toy basket. Last time he did that I had to wash all the toys he'd touched/licked/chewed, and scrub the patch of carpet where he'd drooled. In fact I'm sure I've got a pic of him enjoying her toys while she's out somewhere.........
    Here it is...
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    I had to wash that little grey teddy. It's her favourite and she's had it since I first got her. She beats it up but loves it really.
    How's Max and Tess these days?
     
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    Awww I love Sooty ❤️. I use to know a black cat called Sooty, not a well cat; I warned my (ex) husband not to pick Sooty up, but he did & Sooty scratched him badly down his nose, which left a scar. Hopefully Sooty recovered from the ordeal :p.
    Yes, you must keep her grey teddy away! I can’t help but feel that you may be asked to take on Sooty full-time at some point in the future.....
    I had intended to make Moo & Sooty some catnip mice whilst off for Christmas, sos late, but will get some out to you for next week.

    Max- I need your advice Cully- he’s intolerant to chicken and as you know it’s in many foods, & he’s got a small selection of foods now, but not many. You were recently looking into foods without chicken, so could you recommend any? I’ve assumed if ingredients include poultry, then there is a chance of chicken being in it, or it could be other poultry?
    Tessy- bright as a button at the moment thanks for asking. I started both cats on (zooplus) smilla multi- vitamin paste last week and her coat is now looking better & glossy. However, she’s not been too well lately with her chronic pancreatitis and I’m awaiting a phone call back from the vet. Vet nurse has emailed the specialist and awaiting a reply. Her vomits aren’t bad and all seem food related. Tessy likes the small laser torches, which here we call: her Mr Mousey. Sorry if too much info.
     
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    Never too much info about Max and Tess. Glad to hear she's doing well and hope she gets to see the specialist soon.
    I think I had the same problem as you with chicken free food as it seems to be in everything. I had to find something as she ate chicken once and was sick so wouldn't touch it again.
    I tried her with different fish but she was only really interested in tuna, and of course, that has to be limited.
    Eventually I tried her with Thrive chicken and she loved it. Maybe it was because it's high quality, or just because she had forgotten about the sick chicken incident.
    I think I just spent hours on Zooplus looking at the ingredients lists of all the better foods and ended up spending a fortune on stuff she wouldn't eat.
    Have you tried kangaroo? ZP sell it and I dont think it's got any chicken.
    Start a thread, 'chicken free commercial cat food'. You might get lucky. Sorry I'm no help.sdddddddddddddddd'[;z Oops, Moo just climbed up and typed hello to you :Smuggrin
    What food is he eating at the moment?
     
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    Hi @Cully
    I read your thread.
    The kangaroo Tessy had a bad reaction to and it then took her a month to get back on track after; I don’t remember trying Max on it; I know I took it the local cat rescue but could check his food diary. Both have Animonda Vom Feinstein pure turkey, turkey and tom’s, a few others. Max likes the turkey hearts. He no longer likes Bozita tinned beef or fish or Leonardo seafisch. He loves Miamor Ragout Royal Veal in jelly which actually says ‘with poultry’ on the ingredients. He has roast turkey and a few perfect fit 1 + salmon biscuits. Fresh white fish he cannot cope with anymore. I wonder if there’s something else wrong with him, but have taken him to the vets a few time’s and other than 2 dentals, they've said he seems fine. Last night he had DeliCATessen turkey and pheasant but he’s not that keen on it. Any suggestions? Anyone? It seems a bit strange that both cats only do well on mainly turkey based foods.
     
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    @TriTri , I also tried the Vom Fenstein pure turkey after she seemed to really enjoy the Felix turkey but she absolutely refused it. Wouldn't even sniff it, and actually backed away from it. Sooty wasn't keen but I think that was just a mistrust of a new food. He eventually ate it.
    I got her some Gourmet Solitaire turkey fillets which she really liked. So I bought a 12 pack. She had gone off it by the time they arrived.:Banghead
    I did read somewhere, on here I think, that the most common food intolerance for cats is chicken. No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I stumbled upon it while doing a bit of research into why Moo was sick after eating it once.
    I don't think turkey is such a strong taste, so maybe that's why Max tolerates it better.
    When the ingredients state meat/poultry derivatives I suppose it depends on exactly what is being used. Scrapings off the bone might be tolerable, but I shudder to think what else might be being used.:Yuck
    On my travels around the net I'll keep an eye out for chicken free and let you know if I find anything.
    :Cat:)
     
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    Thank you @Cully that would be great.

    I’ve started their catnip mice. ‘Various fabrics used, including a bright green one with black spiders on :eek:, or spots, or stripes, or cats in hats, singing mice or the usual blue ones. You can choose when they’re finished.
     
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    Ooh, says Moo, more mousey's. Long tails, long tails, long tails pleeeze. Fank u Aunty TriTri. :Cat
     
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    @TriTri , Have you tried Googling 'single protein cat food'? That should only contain one type of protein and you can look for anything other than chicken.
    Probably best to check ingredients for any mention of other proteins.
    Some of the foods for delicate tummies are single protein so shouldn't contain anything else.
    There's probably threads on here somewhere too.
    I was quite pleased today as I want to try Moo on Canagan but it's so expensive @£15 for 12 tins.
    I don't mind the price if I know she'll eat it but object to throwing my money away.
    So, I emailed Simply Pet Foods and explained. She said they don't do samples but found me some odd tins and put them in the post to try.
    Well, if you don't ask, you don't get.:Smug
     
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    Good for you, well done. Have you received them yet? Tessy use to like the pouch Canagan, but the last few haven’t been eaten and I’ve given up on it now, though it looked and smelt of a very good quality, with green lipped mussels, aloe Vera, glucosamine etc. It’s a shame they can’t do their own shopping, eh?!

    I need to research more single protein foods for Max, yes.

    I’m having some luck with some Smilla vitamin paste at the moment. My cats love it and I’m not only able to hide pills in it, for them to devour immediately, but I’m also able to mix in Tessies pancreatic enzymes for her chronic pancreatitis. It’s cheaper than the Easypill putty and makes a nice change for her, I think. Her coat has become very glossy in the last week since starting the paste. I have to use it sparingly though, as you give them a 2 inch strip of it in total per day. I got it free with my Zooplus points, but they sell it & they also sell a Smilla malt paste for fur balls, not tried the malt paste yet, but remember my old cats loving the taste of malt paste to help with their fur balls.

    I’d recommend anyone ordering from Zooplus to use Top Cashback, but remembering to delete Zooplus from your browser history first. They say up to 3% cash back on Zooplus orders.They also do up to 9.6% cash back with pets at home, up to 8.4% with Pet Supermarket, up to 6% cash back with Pet Planet & Lily’s Kitchen & various other online pet stores. They are doing £30 back on their insurance comparison website too. Utility Warehouse do 3% cash back in Sainsbury’s and up to about 10% at dozens of other stores, and they don’t have to be online stores.

    Sorry to side track.
     
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    Not to be a drama queen but maybe he has been rough handled by humans in the past. I would want to know what's up with his eyes, can you show your vet a photo next time you see them?
    What happens if you stretch your hand out to him and wait? Does he come up to you and rub against you?
     
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    @TriTri , oh that's good you've found a nice paste to hide the pills in, I'm all for anything that makes medicating less stressful.
    Thanks for the heads up on the cashback, I wonder if they do it for Symply Pet Foods too. A discount on Canagan would be welcome.
    Yes, the samples for Canagan arrived next day. She didn't like the chicken with beef, but that was no suprise as she doesn't like beef. There's tuna with crab and tuna with prawn, which I haven't tried yet as she loves tuna so don't expect any complaints about that. The other freebie was chicken with ham which she seemed to like, so I ordered a pack of 12 which have just arrived. Just offered some but got snubbed! She'd had a good turkey breakfast and a second helping later, so maybe she's not hungry yet. It's raining now so it's early siesta time for her. Will try again later.
    Very impressed with delivery, and the lady who troubled to find the odd tins for me, 5 stars.
    I've just had a quick look on ZP, single protein wet foods: Miamor Sensitive and Integra Protect Sensitive are worth looking at. One source protein and no animal by products. there is a chicken variety but also beef, turkey, and veal.
     
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    No idea what his early life was as he's a rescue. His reluctance to being handled makes me think he has been mis-handled before too, especially as he freaks out if I accidentally (rarely) shut the window so he's trapped. Maybe he had to be cage trapped to be caught and it was a bad experience. Who knows?
    The vet who saw him thinks the eye problem is dated back to when he was a kitten.Maybe caught something from his mother. I posted a thread about this earlier "What's wrong with his eye?" Whatever is was, it's historical and doesn't seem to cause him any problems now.
    Yes, indoors he'll come and sniff my hand if I stretch it out to him but strictly on his own terms. Outdoors he's far more confident and will come to me and instigate head rubs and pushes his head through my hand and along his body.
    While I'm more than happy to have him come in for food and shelter, I have to be sensitive to Misty's feelings. Sometimes she actually seems to invite him in and they play. At other times she isn't happy, maybe fearful he's taking over her home.
     
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    Hi @Cully
    I’ve checked and sorry, there’s no cashback with Symply Pet Foods. Fingers crossed Moo likes the other flavours then. I’ve tried Max & Tessy with Integra Protect, but they didn’t want to know it. I’m reluctant to try the Miamor Sensitive as the ingredients contents don’t add up to anywhere near 100%... about a third in secret ingredients?! They also include rice or pasta, I think it said. ‘Just tried to order more of their favourites in Miamor Ragout Royale in jelly and they've none in stock :Arghh. Good job I have a stash :D. I’ve noticed Top Cashback offer up to £108 off of pet insurance with Bought By Many, up to £100 off another pet insurer, a definite £48 off with one pet insurer and many others. I need to insure Naughty Max some-when. Here’s the link for anyone interested. The cash-backs take quite a while to come through in my and my sister’s experience, but are still worth having. https://www.topcashback.co.uk/search/merchants/?s=Pet+insurance
    Tessy spent the day curled up in a fleece bed on my desk, whilst I worked today (photo below or above). I gave her a Bravecto Plus flea/worming/tick treatment (drop) which lasts 3 months. (Max’s turn tomorrow). Tessy due for blood tests tomorrow, but after I post out Moo & Sooties new catnip mice!!!!

    Tessy has a similar looking eye problem to Sooty. Different to Elmo’s which was similar. Vet thinks Tessy had a bang to her head before she came to me. Elmo was born with his.
     
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