So I see a repeated theme, amongst those claiming they need to use aversive methods, punishment based or negatively reinforcing. That is that Rewards based Postive Reinforcement is too much trouble and doesn't work for people; so one would expect them to feature in TV shows about "naughty dogs". OK, so why are so many families appearing on these shows, got E-collars and aversive devices already, in proportion to the families using methods approved by the UK consensus based on bodies like the Kennel Club? Many just are not using any training or behaviour modification strategy, I agree. Surely if R+ training is the standard recommendation in the UK and widely used in the US, you'ld expect a training method that was ineffective to appear frequently, wouldn't you? Why is it, that R+ trained dogs feature heavily on shows featuring well trained "talented" dogs? TV producers love shots of indulgent ladies treating dogs, so it'd be a gift for them wouldn't it?