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Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by Lilylass, Oct 1, 2013.


  1. Lilylass

    Lilylass PetForums VIP

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    So ... after some advice, experiences and hopefully picking the knowledge of those who breed

    As some of you know, I've very sadly had to rehome Mia (fingers crossed she is doing really well - and seems to be adjusting much better than me :rolleyes:)

    Archie finally seems to be calming down and finally ventured upstairs on Saturday :smile5: and I've had him on my pillow for the last 3 nights (where he always slept from a tiny tot until the bad fights started)


    Now .... much as I love Archie, he is a bit of an anti-social sod & basically goes out 1st thing, comes in at bedtime and really just wants to sleep on my pillow - and he's happy. He's never been cuddly (even when little) and HATES being picked up or fussed over :(



    Now .... I am not going to do anything in a hurry - I think he needs time to recover from what must've been really stressful for him the past few months so I think we're talking maybe a year ..... BUT

    I just can't see me not having another one - I miss Mia with every bone in my body :( she was my shaddow - always the one on my knee in the evenings, loved being picked up and cuddled :smile5: followed me everywhere etc and I really miss the company of a cat:(


    So, I'm thinking the next one will be a pedigree (love my moggies but you really can't tell what's in their history or how they'll turn out - at least a pedigree there are general breed traits that give some idea) ..... after suggestions please

    Thinking it needs to be a calmer breed (so no Bengals! etc) so as not to worry Archie - he lived happily with Smudge and there were 16 cats between 3 houses where we used to live so he is OK with other cats (just had his confidence knocked a lot recently)


    So far, I've come across Birmans and Persians who both seem quite laid back


    Can anyone suggest a few breeds so I can do some research, look into breeders (and start saving!)

    Sorry that's really long :eek:
     
  2. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    Think you need to leave it some time before thinking about getting another cat to let both of you really settle down. Given the circumstances I'd be very wary of getting another cat as although he was OK with Smudge he may not be with any other cat. I would also probably go for a rescue, and make the circumstances absolutely clear. Going to a small local one might work better than one of the Big Names as they are often more flexible.
     
  3. JordanRose

    JordanRose Master of the Whingey Cat.

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    I'm in a very similar position to you and if I had my way, I'd be getting another Oriental/ Siamese but alas, I can't risk it with Spooky's history.

    I've been looking into breeds that are calm, non-confrontational and likely to be largely unphased by a demanding and loud Siamese. I've found the following fit these traits:

    British Shorthairs (and longhairs...)

    Selkirk Rex

    Ragdolls

    Maine Coons

    Persians (and exotics...)


    However, I've settled on Ragdolls- or possibly Persians- as they're both breeds that are unlikely to fight for dominance with Spooks and are about as laid back as they come.

    My Mum doesn't like the look of Selkirks (is she blind?!!) so they were struck off the list, Coonies are just too big for little Spooky and the BSH just aren't really 'my thing' (please, don't shoot me BSH people!).


    I would suggest going to some shows and talking to people there or, better still, arrange to go and visit a breeder and their adult cats- that way, you can see what they're like in a home environment and you're faced with what is likely to be the 'finished product' once your kitten has grown up.

    But VERY importantly, choose a good breeder where kittens are brought up in the home, parents are health tested, and they're vaccinated, parasite treated and GCCF and/or TICA registered. If you go with a breeder who fits this criteria, kittens should be very well socialised- that is by far the most crucial part of the whole process, I think!


    (Sorry for the essay but I just read myself and Spooks in your post so hopefully that's helpful! :eek: )
     
  4. spid

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    I would leave it a good while and make sure Archie is settled again - but look at the breed JR suggested. And also RagaMuffins.

    (I obviously think the Selkirks are great) but lots of breeds are laid back.


    JR - get your mum to look at the Selkirk variants (the Margo's and Bomber's of this world) she might change her mind.
     
  5. JordanRose

    JordanRose Master of the Whingey Cat.

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    I agree she needs to take some time but she has stated it will be a year or so yet- I get the impression she is just researching at this stage :)

    It is a risk to get another cat given the history but I do think Lilylass is going the right way about it. Personally, I wouldn't go for a rescue cat- an adult is likely to threaten Archie and cause contention and the kittens are just too unpredictable, temperament-wise. Plus, rescue kittens are not the most socialised you can get (though we do try very hard to socialise!) as they tend to be taken from Mum earlier than recommended to make way for the next inevitable pregnant dumpee :(


    The only problem with a pedigree is you pay a lot for them and if it doesn't work out you're losing a lot of money- at least with rescues, you can have a foster period before you pay the adoption fee.


    I just know with Spooks- who has a similar history- I wouldn't be risking anything but a very well socialised puss as a companion, who has had the best possible start in life. It's what he deserves, and what he needs. If it was up to me, and what I want, I'd have another rescue!
     
  6. JordanRose

    JordanRose Master of the Whingey Cat.

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    Oh yes, how could I forget the Muffins?! :001_tt1:

    I'll also look at the variants and sneakily show Mum them tonight :ihih: I just know she didn't like the curlies :( I LOVE the curlies!!!
     
  7. jaycee05

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    Are you thinking kitten,or adult, Ragdolls are very laid back, but also a lot of Ragdolls in rescues, I know someone who has 3 rescued Ragdolls and they are lovely, some probably do prefer to be an only cat,like any others, but usually will get on with any other cat,or dog,
     
  8. Melo

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    I'm totally biased, but British Shorthairs are a great breed.

    If you decide that you want to look into BSH, send me a private message and I'll give you the details of the breeder I got Henry from. My dad also has 2 of her kittens (well, they're not kittens anymore) and they have great little personalities. Henry is a lovely little cat (he's 18 months now), he gets on great with my mums dog when he goes there to stay when I'm away and he's great with people. I've had a houseful of noisy women and he's been right there in the middle of it all looking for cuddles from everyone! :D

    The breeder is lovely and and she'll give you all the advice you need before buying one of her kittens. She's very protective of her babies so likes to make sure they're going to good homes and will be happy and well looked after. She's also happy to stay in touch and if you have any questions about your kitty she's more than happy to help. I keep in touch with her via Facebook so she can see my pictures and updates on Henry and it's an easy way for me to get in touch with any questions I have.
     
  9. Jiskefet

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    I would suggest a BSH too, but for the fact that they do not really seem to be lap cats. But then again, some are, breed doesn't say everything. You'd have to look at a breed that is - in general - laid back and good with other cats, and then look at the individual cat to find one that would go well with Archie and Maisie, and meets your own needs, too.

    A good breeder could hellp you select the right cat for your situation from their kittens, or maybe suggest a retiring queen.
     
  10. carly87

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    If you want help researching Persians, just give me a shout! I'm totally biased of course, but they make absolutely amazing snugglers, and I have 5 little shadows whether i want them or not! Kittens tend to take after the adults, so I often refer to myself as mummy duck, as whatever I do, there's a line of inquisitive furries behind me to make sure I don't get lonely!
     
  11. Lilylass

    Lilylass PetForums VIP

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    Thanks for all the thoughts so far - sorry I disappeared - I'm at my M&Ds (dog sitting!) and I've managed to errrrr get Mum's lappy not to work .... now moved onto Dad's one ... but that's maybe not such a good idea :eek:


    No one need worry that I'm going to do anything in a hurry - I think it will be a good year before anyone is ready .... but as JordanRose says, I am just after some breed suggestions so that I can research and research some more :)

    If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen but it'll keep me occupied and give me something positive to focus on / plan for :)

    Poor Archie & Spooks they do seem to be similar ..... - fingers crossed you eventually find the right companion for him/you too and, yes .... I'd happily bring home a tribe of rescues (obviously not just now but I'm meaning in a year or so) if I thought it would be fair and that everyone could be happy together

    I'd be happy with an older retired breeding cat - and in some ways that might be easier as we'd know if they were dominant or not

    Archie was always the dominant but unfortunately Mia grew up to be one too .... not a good mix - and I've no idea how you can tell that when you get them as a kitten:(

    Maisie is a retired dam (from a very good breeder not a BYB or farm) and I spent many, many months emailing and chatting to her breeder before going to meet her and see if any of her dogs would fit ..... I had actually gone to see a totally different dog BUT Maisie chose me (she came and put her head on my shoulder and just gazed at me!) :)

    Yes there are obviously things to bear in mind when taking a dog / cat from this situation as home life is usually very different (and we certainly had huge issues with recall - obviously not a problem with a cat) and she literally was lost for a few weeks as she just didn't know what she was supposed to do (it took her a while to realise that, yup, she could just be a dog!) BUT (after a lot of hard work!) she has turned into the most wonderful companion that I could ever have asked for :)
     
  12. OrientalSlave

    OrientalSlave Shunra Oriental Cats

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    For relatively placid pedigrees you are looking at Persians, Exotics, SLH breeds and British Shorthair. The Foreigns, Burmese, Orientals & Siamese are all more excitable - ON AVERAGE. Breed character is an average not a given, and kittens are far from mature and can change a lot over a year or two.

    Personally I'd got for a BSH. I can't be doing with the faff of combing a SLH cat, and Exotics are not my cup of tea.
     
  13. Lilylass

    Lilylass PetForums VIP

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    I love Siamese & have had one before BUT Archie is actually very like Samantha was in character & build - I think there's def Siamese lurking somewhere in him as apart from his colour - he's a typical Siamese!

    He even has the baby cry they make :eek:

    I unfortunately crossed them off the list straight away as I know he'd not appreciate another like him in the house!
     
  14. Cazzer

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    Totally agree with above post by orientalslave. There are always exceptions to the breed standard I had a ragdoll from a very good breeder and he was the stroppiest nastiest cat I have ever known. He was sweetness and light at the breeders but moment he got back here, he was in a dominance battle with the other cats. I had to rehome him as an only cat. He would attack me in his anger to get at the other cats.

    I'm going to put in a word for NFCs. Big soppy lumps of cats on the whole!
     
  15. Melo

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    My little Henry is a lap cat & has been since the day I got him home! If he's not on my lap, he's right beside me. My dad has 2 (one is Henry's uncle & the other is his half sister) and they're not really lap cats at all. They're both really affectionate though, just not the sitting on your lap type of affectionate.

    I love the fact that he's a lap cat, it's like having a furry, purring hot water bottle!
     
  16. AtticusRavel

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    Biased-biased, but Ragdoll!

    Atticus was supposed to be (and probably is) quite a character and in theory not that cuddly, and boy he is such a softy and likes being petted no end :) I I have had it home for a week, and is incredible how well he's settled, how affectionate and clever he is. Raggies!!!
     
  17. Lilylass

    Lilylass PetForums VIP

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    That was sadly where I ended up with Mia - she almost went into a trance like state she got so worked up and it got to the point she would attack me & Maisie too:(

    When he wasn't there she was the most cuddly affectionate cat I've ever known and it's really sad that she just couldn't bear him anywhere in the house (things had got worse over the years eg the lounge was hers and the bedrooms his - but in the end she didn't want him in the house at all)

    I really think new neighbours moving in who had cats and her being able to see them (she hates other cats and goes nuts when she sees them) was the final straw eventually as when she did the horrid wailing sound they make to warn others off, Archie thought she was going to attack him so tried to get in first :( and if she saw the others cats outside (and Archie was out) she'd go for Maisie instead :(

    However, she seems to be settling really well as an "only" so fingers crossed :)
     
  18. catgeoffrey

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    It does depend on what you want from your cat... our BSH Ruxpin has his cuddly moments but is certainly no way a lap cat. He's really chilled out with people he knows (belly rubs etc) but very wary of strangers. Wouldn't change him for the world and our Justa Geoffrey is still top cat in the house simply because Ruxpin can't be bothered with all that dominance nonsense!
     
  19. LittlePancakeTheExotic

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    Biased but I'd say an Exotic. My Pankster doesnt like sitting on laps but loves to cuddle all night, follows me everywhere, can't really jump and is so laid back and happy with just being with us. Could'nt have asked for a better cat :p
     
  20. Lilylass

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    Really for him/her to actually want to spend time with me!

    I realise that must sound awful - Archie loves to sleep on my pillow (and I love having him there!) BUT that's really all the contact he wants

    He goes out all day and when he comes in, wails until he gets fed, eats and then disappears upstairs (to my pillow:rolleyes:) - apart from when I go to bed, I never see him:(

    I just miss having a cat with me when I'm in the house IYKWIM - I know Mia was excessively clingy towards me (which is probably why she was so possessive) BUT even Smudge (who also hated being picked up & hardly ever sat on my knee:rolleyes:) would sit on the sofa in the evenings and be stroked

    Not sure if that will make any sense?
     
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