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Whelping Questions

Discussion in 'Dog Breeding' started by Engel98, Apr 17, 2019.


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  1. Engel98

    Engel98 PetForums Member

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    My toy poodle is due any time now but I still have a couple of questions I'd like to ask...

    1) Roughly 24 hours before whelping starts there is a temperature drop. Does her temperature continue to drop or does it go back up? I only ask as her temperature was 37.2C.

    2) I read somewhere (can't remember where though) that toy dogs don't need pig rails in the whelping box. Is this true?
     
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    I never took temperatures, but I believe that once the temperature has dropped, as a prelude to labour, it doesn't rise again.

    I believe toy breeds do need a pig rail. I knew of a Cavalier who squashed two of her pups lying on them.
     
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    Is this a second dog due in addition to the maybe-maybe-not-pregnant rescue you have the other thread on? Sounds like you have a lot on your plate!
     
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    Am sure my chihuahua breeder had rails in a photo of a set up she showed me.

    Dogs can still squash puppies..as size is all relative isn't it!
     
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    Engel98 PetForums Member

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    Thanks @Rafa.

    If you never took temperatures how did you know when she was going to go into labour? Or was it a case of you'll know once she's already in labour?

    That's terrible! I'm going to get some rails to go into the box if that's the case. I thought that fact was a tad odd.
     
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    Sorry for the confusion. Nope-the same dog I'm afraid! It turns out she is pregnant as I can see and feel movement within the abdomen. I can also hear heartbeat(s) that's not mums! Im pretty sure there's at least 2. We'll soon find out!

    The next game I'll play is guess the dads breed lol
     
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    The signs of early labour are normally restlessness, digging/nesting, loss of appetite, sometimes vomiting and trembling/shivering.

    It is normally quite obvious when a bitch is beginning in labour.
     
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    Engel98 PetForums Member

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    True.
     
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    Engel98 PetForums Member

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    Fair enough
     
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    TEMP UPDATE

    17:00 - 37.2C
    20:00 - 37.9C
    22:45 - 37.1C
    23:35 - 37.0C
     
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    Poor thing, stop sticking a thermometer in her. Let her be. You'll know when she's in labor.
     
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    I'm afraid I too think constant temperature taking is very intrusive - if you are carefully keeping a watchful eye on your dog you will know when their time is near. The early signs have been described above - some will display these for 24 hours before birth, others just a few hours ...that's why we stay close by and generally leave them be.

    In regard to what I call roll-bars - yes, all whelping boxes should have them as any mother in the days after birth (because they are tired and the pups are immobile) can lay on or trap a puppy - our Cavaliers have roll bars in their boxes. We also check very regularly as well. We lost a tiny Jack Russel pup on the farm once under mum ...saddest thing ever.

    J
     
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    UPDATE

    Yesterday evening Bella's temp dropped and I haven't taken it since.

    She's very restless; not able to stay in the same spot for 2 mins. She spent a hour panting and 2 hours breathing fast (without panting). She's been pacing and going to and from her whelping box. Her abdomen has gone very hard.
     
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    has she had the pups yet.
     
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    Any news?
     
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    Nope appears to be a false alarm...she may have another week to go yet :)
     
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    are you sure she is pregnant
     
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    2 scans were inconclusive. They thought they saw something but wasn't sure.
    However I have seen movement in the abdomen and heard another heartbeat.
    Vet said if she is, this week is when they'll come.
     
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    At this point you could have done an x-ray I would think.
    Personally I would want to know more conclusively if she is pregnant or not, and if she is, how many. Singletons can be really problematic, and with inconclusive scans I would worry that is a possibility.
     
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    There's no x-ray for people here let alone for dogs. For people, the nearest a&e or maternity ward is over 2 hours away and I haven't heard of any x-rays for animals :(
     
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