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Whats wrong with my rat!! HELP!

Discussion in 'Rodents' started by Vamp176, May 20, 2010.


  1. Vamp176

    Vamp176 PetForums Junior

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    Ok both my rats had some cold where they were sneezing the vet gaze them a injection and some antibiotics and they been fine, this was about a month ago. but now on my rats just is sleeping all the time and is not intrested in anything. he also just sits in my hand doing nothing, i have given him some Ceral and milk from a spoon and i will be feeding him tonight Yogurt can some one give me some advice please, Because i dont think my vet is to good with small animals as he deals with farm yard animals mostly . Please Help me
     
  2. spoiled_rat

    spoiled_rat PetForums Senior

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    If you think your vet is crap, find another.

    Rats also dont get `colds` either, and you really need to see a compentant vet and get a suitable diagnosis and treatment, as theres nothing anybody on here can do sadly.
     
  3. myzoo

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    iam sorry to hear your rattie is ill i know its a tough time when a loved pet falls ill its not your fault your vet is rubbish you did your best by taking rattie in the firstplace is all you can do now is find a vet with a good knowlage and experience with a good reputation of rats good luck and remember you can only do your best and your rattie knows you love them and care for them hope all gets better soon:)
     
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    I would try to find a more rat experienced vet if you can I know it's not always easy. It sounds like the medication isn't working he'll need new treatment
     
  5. myzoo

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    i agree with what nicky said it is somtimes hard to find a good vet but they do excist i would look on the net for rodent freindly vets in your area good luck:)
     
  6. StuartD

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    We had a problem finding a good vet too, we tried 5 diffrent ones & In the end when we did get one it was to late. None of the vets admited they didnt have a clue and had not been taught anything about rats untill the last one that explained that normal vets only cover small rodents very breifly on the course, and you need an "exotic vet"

    So if i was you google "Exotic Vets" in your area not just vets, they are only a tad more expensive but worth it
     
  7. owieprone

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    sounds like they possibly have 'resp' or 'myco' which is a common rat respiratory infection.. they need to be given baytril (or similar) in small doses over a week or so to get them back to health. You will be given a syringe (no needle just the syringe part so you can measure it properly as prescribed on teh bottle) to dose them yourself, usually best mixed with a little something liquidy that they like and may mask the taste (not orange juice or milk tho).

    it's one of those things that once they've got it it won't go away. I wouldn't introduce any more rats to your two, if you want more rats wait until your current two are dead as resp is highly infectious.

    Rats can live a long and normal life with resp if they are kept an eye on and given baytril when they get poorly, so don't automatically assume you need to have them put down.

    they sound wheezy and make lots of loud breathing noises when excited/agitated. Any small vet worth their salt should be able to diagnose and medicate easily.

    I am of course only going on what you've said, so this IS NOT a diagnosis, you do need to get them to a vets to make sure as it could be many other things. also you can usually only get a baytril from the vets and this should be your first port of call even if this isn't the case as they vet will be able to figure out the proper dose for them.

    when phoning round vets ask if they have a small pets (mention rats) or exotic pets specialist, if they don't try the next one.

    If you don't have any good vets in usable distance.. go see one thats further away, and get your local vets to liaise with them. Read up on your pet and YOU become the expert.. we're here to help as best we can but only YOU can tell what's wrong with your pet as you are the one there. If you can describe properly in terms that a vet can understand, even if they aren't a rat specialist, then your rats will get the care they need.

    ;) bit of reading up is all you need :D here's links to get you started.

    Rat Behavior and Biology
    Critter City - Mycoplasmosis Page
    http://education.dlam.ucla.edu/attachments/optional_reference_forms/biology_of_the_rat.pdf
     
  8. Vamp176

    Vamp176 PetForums Junior

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    Thanks for the replies because i live out in the middle of no where it will be hard to get to a vet other than the one i mentioned but my ratties are worth it for me to travel further. at the moment ive spoon feeding him yogurt and hes alot more lively , i thought he might become ill because my Explorer Cage has started to rust and i have bought a new cage for them, but there was a rusty water liquid coming off it and i think he might digested some of this which might knocked him for the worst.

    Ty for the adivce reading up on the websites know




    Jake


    Also this vet i go to is aparntly trained in exotic animals as well
     
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  9. spoiled_rat

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    All rats carry Mycoplasma pulmonis, so why on earth would it be infectious to them when they already have it?

    Unless they have a Virus, ie Sendai, SDAV or so on, then there shouldnt be any issues with introducing new rats.
     
  10. Wilted0Rose

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    he could just be a lazy rat, it all depends on his age, my big boys that i used to have were very lazy and would sleep a heck of a lot, when i picked them up they would just look at me and sit on my lap. as for the sneezing it could be a number of things. allergies? what do you use as bedding? if its sneezing and there is a rusty red discharge on their nose, with rustling breathing, it could be myco. best thing to do is to find another vet, one that does specialise in small animals.
     
  11. dawnie24

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    Hi,normally when a rat is sneezing that bad it could be the bedding your using,try changing it,i had the same problem with one of mine when i first had rats so i changed to straw it was ok then ,i now have 6 rats which include 3 lovely naked rats and they are fine with sawdust.x
     
  12. spoiled_rat

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    Sawdust isn't recommended for rats, simply as its too dusty funnily enough and can cause respiratory issues.
     
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    aslong as you get a special sawdust which doesnt affect them its fine,ive never had a problem really,my very first rat lived to the age of 5 and never sneezed ect,theres no wrong or right way.
     
  14. owieprone

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    not all rats exhibit symptoms and are healthy, an 'active' member of the community can increase the likelihood of others becoming active. and also it might not be resp so best not to introduce another rat when the disease is currently unknown!
     
  15. spoiled_rat

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    A sneezing/respy rat wont cause the others to start, or increase the likelihood of the others doing the same, it is not contagious.

    If the disease is `currently unknown`, then wait 6 weeks for quarantine of the existing rats, as if its a Virus, in that time frame all traces should be gone and they arent infectious....not rocket science :)
     
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    Most rat owners wouldnt touch sawdust with a bargepole, shavings maybe, but due to the dust causing issues sawdust is often not recommended.

    I'm not sure how you can get `special sawdust` as at the end if the day....its still sawdust, with lots of dust?
     
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    Sounds like hes developed pnuemonia. My rats had the same thing and the vet said it could turn into pnuemonia. I don't know if I am spelling it right. Most probably not lol.
     
  18. owieprone

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    fair enough got that slightly wrong.. due to 2-month and counting can't be arsedness.. the secondary infection the rat might get, could be infectious (unless is pneumonia which isn't transferable from the host, close flufffluff close).

    also, any meds given should show signs of improvement within 4 days, if nothing happens you need to change meds immediately. if it does improve with them they need to be on it for 21-30 days, NOT a week or so like most vets give, this is NOT long enough for it to control and abate the initial signs, if not treated properly it will definately come back later on down the line.

    as for bedding try looking for shredded reduced-dust bog-roll type stuff, try garden centres that have a pet bit, that's where i get mine from, massive bag of it for ~£5.
    Biocatolet (brand of cat litter) is also good, but doesn't seem the most comfy stuff in the world to me so i only use it in their litter tray.
    you're other option is to stick biocatolet on the floor and give them old clothes etc to snuggle in (which can then be washed, saves abit of money).
     
  19. Vamp176

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    Ok so UPDATE vet on call just came left me some meds called Tenramyian Powder which he said can be added to the water, and he said is stronger than Baytril. So my next question how can i influence them to drink the water now =]

    Also there not drinking the water, i think its because the taste, any suggestions on what i can put in there to mask the taste?
     
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  20. Wilted0Rose

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    mix the dosage in a little amount of water about 1 - 2 mils suck it up in a syringe
    scruff ratty, pop it into his/her mouth, and squirt. had to do that with my ratties for 2 weeks on baytril, same way just more creative since its a powder.
     
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