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what to do... (pony/by motorway)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by nic101, Jun 5, 2010.


  1. nic101

    nic101 PetForums VIP

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    So was toddling off to asda this morning for my fat fighters stuff (slim fast :D )

    and saw*again* this pony by the motorway on its on on a tiny part of land - im not saying much else about the land ona public forum :mad: its on its own - looked well cared for - coat shiny, bright eyed etc.

    I felt so bad for i t as its a lovely pony but i dont think it had been 'abandoned' - however i was about to leave my number and say "if its for sale"... :D.... but i didnt as i forgot my phone (and dont know my number) :lol:

    what would you have done? ponys lovely and im sure its well cared for but the lands tiny/no company and i didnt check if it had food or water tbh as i was just shocked a pony lived where it did.....

    its not far from my house btw so i can check if needed.......
     
  2. Freyja

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    If its on poor grazing but looks well looked after and healthy then may be it suffers from laminitus and cannot have good grass. My sister used to have a shetland pony that had to be kept on a bare paddock at this time of year because of laminitus but in the winter was turned out with the sheep at her boys friends parents farm.

    Some horses prefer to be in a field on their own my old mare was only happy if she was left in peace she was never happy with company.
     
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    yep but thers NO horses within approx 1/2 a mile!

    It wouldnt be an issue at all for me if something was in shouting distacnce but thers nothing.

    :( mabey im just too soft in that way.
     
  4. GoldenShadow

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    I second what Freyja says re laminitis. My boy has this and had to wear a grass muzzle almost permanently and we have a pony at the yard who literally has to be on no grass. His daytime paddock is usually about 20 foot by 30 foot just because he really mustn't get at the grass.

    Its very common to see ponies in fields just off the motorway, I see tonnes. Land is very cheap usually there.

    Re the no company, if it has laminitis it may be this pony needs a small paddock with little grass but his friends need more, or perhaps if its a mare its in season and being a complete tart and needing to be kept away from the others, or he could be a stallion or a rig and they can't incorporate him into the herd yet.

    Whenever we got a new pony at our yard he was completely on his own for a bit and met the others long before you introduced the newbie into the herd.

    If it looks well cared for I wouldn't worry too much but it ought to have water nearby, wouldn't worry about food so much though as he/she may well be on hard food and brought in at night time.
     
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    My sisters shetland lives on its own on a sheep farm in the middle of now were. The only company she has is a couple of thousand sheep. In the summer when she's in her paddock theres not even the sheep although they are around when they are lambing.
     
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    I have to say company isn't a necessity for as many horses as some may think. Some have always been in a herd and need it, others really don't.

    My friend's boy Frankie had a friend called Vetten. They couldn't be in the same paddock because Frankie would start to herd him a bit and Vetten would bite him so they were separate but could see each other and loved one another.

    Vetten died over a year ago and Frankie has been on his own ever since. He showed no change whatsoever and is currently kept on his own but he does fine that way.

    It would be difficult for him to live with a herd just because he is a bit of a rig in a few respects and would be likely to cause more squabbles than back off and settle for being lower in the pecking order etc.
     
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    Sometimes even if you do something it wont do any good. I still see the little pony near me that is kept on a 12ft square grass verge with no fencing and tied to a parasol stand. Despite me and several others reporting it to the RSPCA.:(
    Perhaps they just have different ideas then me about where to keep a horse??:confused:
     
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    btw it was a gelding/colt (i didnt look to see if there were any bits !) lol.....

    i have owned horses before and tbh whether land is cheap or not and it has laminitus - theres absolutely no need to keep a horse on less than 1/4 of an acre with no company within 1/2 amile.

    Theres tons (and i mean tons) of land/yards round me all suitable for lami ponies and colts (if thats what this is)....

    i posted on a local forum to see if it was anyones horse or just was dumped. no idea really.
     
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    Disagree with the bit in bold. The pony at our yard at the minute has been for x rays over and over again and he is very poorly and has to be on restricted grazing for several reasons. Not only is it to stop him tearing around and doing damage if he gets in a state, but he also must eat literally no grass whatsoever. Its actually physically dangerous to give him anything more than 1/4 of an acre.

    The odds of this horse having laminitis may be high or may not and the case of the above scenario is a low possibility but there are reasons for a horse to be on 1/4 of an acre.

    Horses often need to be kept away from others if they have an injury so they don't get excited and try to race/escape. They can also be on restricted space so that they can't run about and damage themselves. I know plenty who are on box rest and the owners walk them out to a very small paddock so they can be outside and graze instead of being stuck in a stable all day, it does happen.

    I know people who have tiny paddocks but exercise their horses a lot and whilst I don't agree with it the horses don't do too badly for it. How small a paddock are we talking?
     
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    like my garden size (which is small)

    Its not just about that - its the company etc

    we will have to agree to disagree with this one.... i think its a case of you needed to see it. :)
     
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    I don't think I do need to see it, even if its 8 foot by 10 foot its the size of a stable and many horses are stabled day and night etc. I see it more from at least he has got grass and looks well cared for, lots of competition horses are just stabled 24/7 :( YO's one hadn't even eaten grass until she got her at 7 years old let alone been left in a field or on a hack :(

    Its less easy to defend the company side but maybe this isn't a long term thing or he can't be incorporated into a herd yet, difficult to know at the moment :)

    On two occasions people nearly killed my horse because they thought I was cruel putting a grass muzzle on him. It allowed him to be out in the field with the others (in company) but prevented him from eating as much grass if he had no muzzle on. On two occasions this was taken off but luckily as the yard owner checks twice daily and I was up there a lot of the time he only had it off for about three hours both times but it made him very poorly indeed. After that second time he was on box rest for a few weeks and I had to keep him completely on his own a lot of the time as it wasn't fair on the others to keep them up at the yard where there was little grass and then you had to reintroduce two horses into the herd which could have caused more squabbles etc.

    I'm not saying this is the case here, I don't know and the chances are probably really low anyway. In the above case my boy (similarly to current pony with laminitis at the yard) also had to have no grass no company etc for a while though and so it is possible at times for horses to need such little land, but you are right in that in the long term no its not good :)
     
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    Yeah long term is not good - my own horse had to spend time in a small (size of ponys) paddock for a few weeks as he had a leg injury - however there were horses all around him and he could socialise. and it wasnt permanent.

    I agree with keeping horses in 24/7 is just imo cruel. Horses are herd animals, when i get my next one (2 years) it will be kept in a natural nerd environment.
     
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    That's nice :)

    With Bas at the yard at the min he's a complete nutter and winds Sonny an the foalie up something wicked! He is in the old goat paddock away from them because he runs about like a prat and then only later does he realise how sore he's made his feet :rolleyes:

    Frankie was a dressage horse and so he didn't really get much turnout with others for fear of injury etc but now my friend has him as loss of use was declared (shoulder injury) and he does best on his own really else he really does try and even herd the dogs if they hang around with him too long :laugh:

    Hopefully the one you've seen is just in there temporarily. My neighbours have two horses and altogether they have 1 acre of land which is split into five different sections and they are only allowed in one section at a time :eek: not been ridden for a couple years and have been kept like this for about 8 or 9 years now I think.

    I find it sad as well when you go past some places again with a horse with little grazing and its stood in the same place day after day for just ages :( Will be worse in this heat too, if that pony hasn't got any water the RSPCA might be interested if he's in there for a lot of the day. I do hope its just temporary because the owners are trying to get better land or waiting to open up another field or something :(
     
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    yeah


    see where it is too - as far as i knew it wasnt rentable land...

    I did have a quick scout round and like i said i didnt look specifically for food and water. Just very strange to have a pony where it was.

    I pass there a lot so will keep an eye out :)
     
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    :thumbup: nice you are on the look out for him!

    Sometimes when you drive by on motorways etc I've seen a field of about 11 horses or so and you can see for a good few miles in each direction but you can't see any buildings like a house or stables, I always wonder how the horses got there as you just can't tell where they have come from! I was told its usually pretty cheap land by there which is why there are often a lot but I don't know anyone who keeps any near motorways, probably 'cos all my friends have these fizzy silly buggers who would have a hissy fit if a lorry went past :laugh:
     
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    Im too soft tbh i almost bought a colt because i felt sorry for it. :lol:

    Im wanting a coblet in 2 years (i have had tb's before)...so i need/want to wait.

    Theres some other horses neaar me on a rubbish piece of land but still they have company and are always out and look healthy. I woudlnt keep my horse like that but tbh its far better than being completely alone :)
     
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    just thought id update this.

    The pony does have an owner. The said pony has also got loose very close to the motorway (on wrong turn and it would have gone down the slip road)....

    apparantly its being hayed n watered so thats good. But there dosent seem to be any other reason why pony is there and alone :(
     
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    Talking about horses, why do you see horses with coats on in this weather?

    Don't mean to hijack the thread but would like to know if anyone can answer:thumbup:
     
  19. Freyja

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    They may have sweet itch and have fly rugs on to stop the insects biting them.
     
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