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What is wrong with Barney?

Discussion in 'Cat Health and Nutrition' started by BarneyBobCat, Mar 23, 2019.


  1. BarneyBobCat

    BarneyBobCat PetForums Member

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    I don't want to dose on an empty stomach, he hasn't eaten enough. He has had the vetergesic so pain wise he should be ok as its an analgesic. Im keen giving him metacam for anti-inflammatory action
     
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    Ceiling Kitty Hides away from much through humour...

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    From the ether by request.

    Sorry to hear about the problems Barney's having.

    Weird causes of constipation in kittens include hypothyroidism, Isospora infection and congenital abnormalities. I would have thought he's a bit too old for the latter to suddenly manifest, unless it was subtle.

    If it hasn't already been done, a thyroid panel is worthwhile, just as a rule out. You have to include the cTSH, which is a canine test (no feline version exists to date, but the canine one works well enough for our purposes); running a total T4 on its own isn't the whole picture.

    Submitting a faecal sample (ideally pooled, though I realise this is difficult when stools are coming infrequently) may also be a good step, to look for any infectious or parasitic causes of bowel issues.

    Where is he up to with worming?

    Any chance he could have eaten something bizarre and caused himself an obstruction?

    Weird causes aside, one does still wonder if he has some pain - perhaps musculoskeletal - that's discouraging him from posturing to pass faeces. Has he had any X-rays yet? These would be useful to assess his spine, hips and hindlimbs; ascertain how much faecal material is present and how it's stacked; and, via a barium emena, potentially rule out something odd like a stricture.

    Cisapride is another option for treatment of constipation, and can work very well. Personally I prefer not to use it until X-rays have been done to confirm that there's no obstruction, that the pelvic canal is wide enough for the stool to pass through, and preferably when the colon has been cleared out. You don't want the bowel trying to contract against an immovable mass. And, obviously, finding and addressing the underlying cause is plan A. Cisapride and its ilk would be a plan B or C scenario.

    Personally I'd be on wet food only with as much added fluid as possible.

    Don't worry, I'm sure the specialist will be able to help him.

    Fingers crossed they can get to the bottom of this next week (no pun intended). If he's still uncomfortable following the Vetergesic, you should speak to the vet for further advice. The weird spaciness following Vetergesic is normal.
     
  3. BarneyBobCat

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    A thought, 9 days before Barney first got constipated he fell of the banister on the stairs down two flights of stairs - I posted about it here:
    https://www.petforums.co.uk/threads/how-to-stop-a-cat-climbing.512481/page-2

    He didn't show any symptoms of pain, but could this have been how he hurt his pelvis and consequently made him poop less frequently resulting in a blockage?

    I don't think he has any musculoskeletal damage or pain based on the vet feeling him an X-ray. Also he is not scared of the litter tray so I don't think its neurological - he has been trying to go but simply cannot at the moment.

    Edit - he has pooped at 10.45am. He is still quiet and looks like he is in pain. I will be keep going with his meds
     
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  5. BarneyBobCat

    BarneyBobCat PetForums Member

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    Bit of an update, he has pooped the last two days in the morning. Saturdays was a mix of dark and light brown and softish. Sunday was mainly light brown and quite soft. He is straining to go - his legs wobble a bit, we are calling them Elivs Legs.

    He has been more active and playing a bit but not back to normal by a long way, he has been quiet and hiding away a lot. He has slept a lot this afternoon. I also think he is a bit wary of us, possible due to stress I guess from being ill. But he did give us both cuddles in bed first thing which was nice.

    We are at the specialist tomorrow to try and work out what the heck is going on with the little man. I haven't dared touch his tummy today as I don't want to stress him anymore than necessary.

    I am continuing with all the meds and will be until we have figured this illness out. Its such a worry!
     
  6. SbanR

    SbanR PetForums VIP

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    They are such a worry when they're not right. Hope you get nearer some answers tomorrow. Will keep my fingers crossed for Barney
     
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  7. Psygon

    Psygon Yoshi Tonks! :-)

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    Hopefully the specialist can figure out what's going on. Is it the same specialist you linked to before or someone else?
     
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  8. BarneyBobCat

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    Its another specialist who is a feline expert recommended by my vet. Just going for a consultation, hopefully get another view on what could be wrong and some advice on how to proceed.

    He climbed the curtains this morning so we were hopeful he was on the mend but he's just been comatosed all afternoon so I don't know what the heck is going on with the little fella
     
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  9. Psygon

    Psygon Yoshi Tonks! :-)

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    Oh that's good that they are a feline specialist... I think you are in the northeast like me? And there are not many properly feline specialists about!
     
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    I am indeed in Gods Country! Im seeing a vet called George who works at Wilson Vet Group in Bishop Aukland. For some reason he isn't featured on their Meet the Team page but this is the website FYI: https://wilsonvetgroup.co.uk
     
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    Hi @BarneyBobCat - I am glad Barney has had a poo. Hopefully it will help him feel a bit more comfortable. even though he is still not well.

    I hope tomorrow's visit to the specialist is productive and a way forward with your little lad can be found.
     
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    Sorry for the apparently random questions....I read all of your updates on Barney and probably like you and everyone else here, I rack my brain for a possible cause of his poo problems.

    Had you had Barney for very long before he fell over the banister? Is it possible he had always struggled a bit to poo since you had him and it has worsened over time? Unless we know we need to monitor what's going on in the litter tray, let's face it, we don't make a point of watching them 'perform'.
     
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    I would say about 7 weeks at that point, we have had him 12 in total now. He has never been a prolific poo'er - typical once every 24hrs but sometimes longer. He may have been struggling for a while and it just got to the point where he got blocked up. Even now having had lactulose three times a day he is still only going once a day. He didnt even go when we was admitted the vets and given an enema. Its a mystery but nothing that shows up on X-ray - this is why my vet was thinking soft-tissue damage or neurological
     
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    So he is in at 4.30pm today and Im at work. Will update after the specialist appointment. We had another epic cuddle this morning and I deliberately did not touch his tummy but he still got growly after a bit, Ive just got a funny feeling its something to do with his pelvis. Ive also noticed he seems to be flicking his tail up and it sometimes looks like his pelvis is quivering - I am at the end of my tether now so I could easily be imagining this!

    The poor lad was scratching round in the litter tray this morning crying but didn't go.
     
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    Thinking of you and poor Barney. I hope the specialist is able to give you some answers and find out the cause of Barney's problem.
    Sending you some of those PF vibes that have kept me going over the past few weeks xxxx
     
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    Thinking of you and Barney. Sending lots of supportive vibes
     
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    Hoping everything's going well and you are starting to get some answers. Thinking of you and little Barney xxx
     
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    Hopefully you’re in there now and on the way to figuring out what is going on. Paws crossed Barney Boo xx
     
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    Yeah. Hoping you get good news today.
     
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  20. BarneyBobCat

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    So the vet was great, really nice chap. We were in there 90mins for the consultation - he spent a good hour just talking to us about his history, his diet, pre-illness behaviours, post-illness, anything else unusual we had noticed - it was really thorough.

    He then progressed to a physical examination and unfortunately Barney simply wouldn't comply. Barney didn't want to come out of his carrier, didn't want to be touched, was very antisocial - all hunched up, hissing and growing, ears back. They checked his temperature, all fine, and tried to observe him walking but he was reluctant - the vet was initially concerned about his walking but after touching him he couldn't find anything odd in his legs. He pressed on Barneys stomach but that didn't seem to bother him, but he was worried about his spine.

    This is odd though, as the vet thought his potential injuries from the falls we described would have healed by now.

    Bloodwork from my own vet was reviewed and found to be fine. He looked at he X-rays and said they were not detailed enough.

    So although it was a positive consultation, Barney needs more investigation - tomorrow he goes into hospital and is getting further X-rays, ultrasounds, urine samples and then we take it from there.

    My main worry is that the vet, a cat expert, said he had never seen anything like this and described it as weird.

    I am perplexed what is wrong with him - at 5am this morning he was all over me snuggling, purring, cuddling, head butting. Then he went all quiet and hunched up again. My wife had a tummy tickle with him mid-morning but then again, he went antisocial. Its like this pain comes and goes.

    £195 for today, circa £700 for tomorrow plus whatever they advise. Will have to see whether I can get anything more out of my limited insurance - wish I had researched pet insurance a bit more, feel like a right idiot now.
     
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