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what happens to stud cats when not of use?

Discussion in 'Cat Breeding' started by Amethyst, May 2, 2011.


  1. Amethyst

    Amethyst PetForums VIP

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    Just wondering what breeders do when they no longer need their stud cat for "duties" ...

    I've read many live outside, so do they neuter, bring them inside, keeping them as pets?
     
  2. Marley boy

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    not sure but i always see ex studs for sale 9 times out of ten neuterd, i would like to think good breeders would keep there stud cat as a pet after they have finished using him for stud. After all they are supposed to be their pets.
     
  3. Soupie

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    My stud boy lived indoors until about 18 months but is happier outside now he is mature.... My neuters go out in the run with him during the day and at night he snoozes or watchs the nightlife quite happily. He has never sprayed and is a gorgeous loving boy - when he is neutered next year and after a safe period for his to lose any fertility he will come back in at night :)
     
  4. Myanimalmadhouse

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    I'd love to say yes but alas if you look on the adds there are loads of "ex breeding stud looking for new home" as well as "retired breeding queen" They still expect you to pay top price as you would a kitten too!

    It just shows what these poor cats mean to these people - a comodity to use then sell when no longer as usefull :mad:
     
  5. lizward

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    The most common practice is to neuter and rehome. Sometimes a stud may be passed on entire if the owner has confidence in the home he will be going to, especially if his genes are of use to another breeder and he is still young. Some breeders never retire their studs at all.


    Liz
     
  6. Shayden

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    poor cats, i dont think i would ever sell my queens or stud... unless i really needed to (due to circumstances beyong my control) cats can live up to 15 years .. its not fair to throw them out with the garbage after youve finished making money off them!
     
  7. lizward

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    It's not like that, it's about keeping a line going. There is quite simply a limit to the number of cats it is possible to have at any one time and if you have 30 cats or something like that then unless you have vast facilities and a lot of money, you are not going to be able to keep any more kittens until you have rehomed some adults. I know I am going to have to rehome some young adults this year and I am not looking forward to it at all but honestly I have no choice if I want to move on.

    Liz
     
  8. Doolally

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    I've got a neutered ex-stud cat...he was neutered at 15months when I took him on from the breeder (and his sister), he didn't really like girls :eek: so didn't take to stud life too well....He's amazing:D ETA and i'm very grateful to his breeder for letting me have him (and her) she loved them to bits but couldn't keep them as neuters and carry on breeding as she just didn't have space, it's worked out very well for all of us
     
  9. Marley boy

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    surely your cats are your pets though, yes i understand that there is a certain amount of cats you can have in a house but when you reach that number surely that means that you will just have to stop breeding for the time being. I know in the dog world breeders have joint ownership of their pups with the new owners and help the new owners to futher the line for them.
     
  10. Myanimalmadhouse

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    I'm all for keeping lines going and improving lines but at what cost? I dont believe its ok to continue breeding if the cats are there to simply "exist" every one breed deserves a loving home waiting for them!

    These young adults you say your going to have to rehome - why? Are they neutuered and of no use to your breeding programe? Are they ones you kept back intending to breed from but turned out they are not as quality as expected? Are they kittens that you were unable to rehome?

    I am not opposed to the occasional rehome if it is absolutely nessecary or in the best interest of the animal and thankfully like the above poster there are people out there to provide happy pet homes but it seems to be too commonplace that ex breeding queens and studs are soo easily advertised.

    They should be your prized, loved pets FIRST and breeding queen stud second!
     
  11. 2lisa2

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    how does it work with stud cats aswell i could be wrong but dont they spray ive heard once they start this its hard to stop even after being neutred so how would this work in regard to going to a pet home once they have retired just curious :)
     
  12. lizward

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    Apparently it isn't usually a problem. The environment is new, there are no entire females around, and this makes quite a difference.

    Liz
     
  13. 2lisa2

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    thanks just really curious :)
     
  14. lizward

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    Yes they are my pets, but basically you have "heart cats" (ones you would never rehome) and then others that you do rehome. You just tell yourself all along that they are only ever going to be temporary residents. I haven't actually done it yet, but that's the plan for when I have to.

    I'd be very keen to work with new owners on furthering a line but it is very uncommon in the cat world.

    Liz
     
  15. Myanimalmadhouse

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    This is true, some male cats partically older ones once neutered can continue to spray and need to be trained to stop of which there will inevitably the occasional one that will never stop spraying. I've seen it before where a stud has been neutered and rehomed and they couldn't get him to stop spraying so ended up being rehomed again and again until he finally found a nice outdoor life on a farm where the owner was ok about it as he turned out to be a brilliant ratter!
     
  16. lizward

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    One I only ever intended to have one or two litters from, she was were "back up" if you like. Some will have made their contribution to my line. One I simply couldn't bear to part with as a kitten but it was a mistake to keep her.

    Liz
     
  17. Riobelle

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    I think the main thing that it comes down to is what is in the best interests for the cat. In an ideal world you would keep every animal but is it fair to keep them if they are going to be one of many cats in a breeding home or maybe not get on with the existing residents when they do move inside. I'm sure there are a lot of very happy ex stud cats living the life of luxury they deserve as single lap cats. Thankfully I haven't had to think about rehoming as I have three cats and they will stay with me forever but I would hope I would always put the interests of the cat first. I have taken on an adult breeding queen who was very unhappy in her last home and hid away from human contact. She is now the most loving and affectionate cat you could wish for and I'm so glad she was rehomed so she can have a happy rest of her life with me xxx
     
  18. gloworm*mushroom

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    A breeder I know, whom I respect, does rehome their ex studs and queens.

    They say they want them to be in a place where they can be fussed over and be the centre of attention. Naturally in a place where there are upwardsof ten cats, it is not the same.

    They do always take back kittens that the owners are not keeping. They have a boy there at the moment who will not let them touch him, he is very nasty, and could never be rehomed. They are keeping him as he has nowhere else to go, so I do not think they just see cats as commodities. I know they don't, but I think they feel they are doing what is best for the cat, and I dont see anything hugely negative about that.
     
  19. Myanimalmadhouse

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    Erm 2 is alot less than some - when you said some I thought you meant more than that lol!

    Im interested in this one though, why was it a mistake to keep her? We all know what its like when you fall in love with a kitten and cant bear to part with but not come accross someone who thought it was a mistake before?

    Although I really dont agree with the "back up" I do understand it and some other breeders I know of also have do the same :(
     
  20. Myanimalmadhouse

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    As I say Im really not adverse to them being rehomed IF its in their best interest! I'm so glad your kitty has settled into a life of luxury she deserves :thumbup: However unfortunately there are too many adverts for it to be these kind of cases - some people really do treat them as "a business" and just want to make way for more kittens to sell.

    Maybe its just the rescue part of me coming through but I really dont believe any breeder should consider breeding more kittens if they cant handle/dont have the time/money for the ones they already have - surely they should stand by their current responsibilities first?! Also if they dont have the time to show affection/fuss/love for one ex stud/queen then how do they have the time to handle and socialise 3/4/5/6/7/8 kittens????
     
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