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Why do you think it 'shouldn't be their decision?' As has already been said, a cat is a living creature and reputable breeders go to great lengths to ensure their kittens will have the best chance of a long, healthy, happy life.

In any case aren't you looking at this from the wrong standpoint? Surely you should be concentrating on your own integrity and abiding by the guarantees you give the breeder not on questioning why they have decided on the particular conditions attached to their kitten sales which, basically, is their prerogative.
I just don't understand how a breeder can be against breeding when they're already doing it? Why is it okay for them to bring more kittens into the world but not me?
 
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It seems that you only care if you are doing something legally wrong and have no consideration for the morals or ethics. You are willing to lie, by omission, if not outright, to the breeder of a kitten.
It's not often I say anything, because as a moderator I try to remain impartial, but I find your attitude towards the advice you have been given reprehensible.
As @Tigermoon has pointed out you could be held legally accountable if you go against the breeder's wishes so, even if you can ignore all of the ethical implications at least bear that in mind.
I don't understand why it is so wrong for me to breed my kitten that I've paid for and will look after? The breeder obviously has no issue with breeding cats or adding to the population of cats so why is it bad for me to do that
 
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Because breeders care and would find it very upsetting to know they didn't pick the best home for their PET ONLY cat.

Does it not bother you that you'd happily be deceitful?
I wasn't sure whether my cats would be indoor or not so I made sure I spoke about this with the breeder and didn't go to someone who absolutely wanted their cats as indoor as there was no way I was going to lie. Turns out I did decide to keep them as indoor anyway.

If you want to get into breeding, great but do it the right way.
I wouldn't want to upset the breeder I just don't see why me breeding him is wrong but her breeding hers isn't?
 
I don't understand why it is so wrong for me to breed my kitten that I've paid for and will look after? The breeder obviously has no issue with breeding cats or adding to the population of cats so why is it bad for me to do that
The breeder is breeding pedigree lines, probably knowing the health and welfare of generations of cats. You are planning to breed a pedigree cat with a domestic shorthair which could have goodness knows what health issues in its background. There are plenty of moggy kittens born to back yard breeders and thoughtless owners to which you intend on adding your own.
And whatever the reason the breeder has chosen to sell their kittens as pet only, that is their choice and not yours to just ignore their wishes. It's the dishonesty that I find appalling. At least have the decency to tell the breeder what you intend on doing.
 
Because the only reason that went wrong was because she had an allergic reaction to flea treatment. I'd make sure everything was correct this time.
Now I might be wrong but losing an entire litter of kittens doesn't sound like something as simple as an allergic reaction (and why would a kitten need to be PTS due to mum's allergic reaction?). It's not uncommon to get cases where some, most or all of the kittens are still born, it's just how nature works. You can never make sure everything goes right.
My shelter has a dedicated vet on hand all hours of the day and a bank account just for the cats in our care and we have still born kittens and kittens that require medical care all the time, and at this point we really really know what we are doing.
You also haven't answered about how this could effect your girl or your other cats? Some cats want nothing to do with their kittens or have no idea what to do with them. They can over groom themselves with stress or die during birthing or due to infection afterwards.
How will your other cats cope with a territorial male who will get frustrated when he can't mate, most likely spray everywhere and fights with your cats?
As I've said before, if you desperately want to have kitten experience volunteer. Shelters never run out of cats and kittens that need help and socilization.
 
I wouldn't want to upset the breeder I just don't see why me breeding him is wrong but her breeding hers isn't?
I am astonished you can't see the difference between a planned pedigree breeding program, and breeding moggies which I suspect is what you will be doing, whatever you read here.
 
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