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Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by nickyjneve, Jul 27, 2009.


  1. nickyjneve

    nickyjneve PetForums Newbie

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    So, every time our new pup wee's in his bed, which is every time he goes in there, I take it I have to wash the vet bed every time?? My god, the washing machine is beside itself:confused: Or not? HELP!!!!!
     
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    are you making a fuss when he does - if so remove the bed when hes not watching and dont react by talking to him or telling him off. Have you got paper in there and at a designated area in your house? You have to get them into a routine - they dont usually foul their own space so its probably you not watching him for when he does want to wee.
    When they wake - head straight to the fron door - no fuss no calls, just automatic with a littl "come" if necessary. when he young it will have to go every few hours, it will need to go before sleep and depending on his age a few hours after - this does decrease but its you that has to get him into the routine;)
     
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    Yes, of course you'll have to wash the bed. It'll stink otherwise and be unhygenic
     
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    nickyjneve PetForums Newbie

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    :yesnod: I am washing it every time!!! I meant, I guess I have to get rid of the odour to prevent him smelling it and therefore encouraging him to go again. I take him out of his crate every hour and he goes for a wee in the garden, no probs and gets loads of praise and attention for going, but he still goes for a wee again in that 1 hour that he is back in his crate (he is a wee machine!) I may reduce his time in the crate to 45 mins, maybe that will help as I only have 3 bits of vetbed.
     
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    nickyjneve PetForums Newbie

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    oh, re fuss - no I'm not making a fuss when he wees, but he has seen me cleaning his bed, he loves it! I will try and do it anon. We are taking him out after every occasion, eating, sleeping, playing, etc. and he doesn't actually seem to drink very much either. We have newspaper in his crate, but he still goes on the vetbed.
     
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    What are you using to wash his bedding?
     
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    Why is he spending so long in his crate?? That sounds to me like you are keeping him in there all the time?
     
  8. rona

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    What are you feeding him, it does sound a little excessive.
    Are you sure he hasn't got an infection?
     
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    Are you feeding him a wet food or dry as he sounds like he has a lot of wee in a little body!!

    What breed is he just out of interest? How old?

    When he wees outside do you let him finish before you praise him because i know if we say 'good boy' to Logan just as he starts he stops himself mid wee to get a treat and then forgets to finish!! LOL :D

    Maybe he needs a couple of wees outside before he goes in? :confused:

    Make sure you use non-biological washing liquid on his bed as others don't remove the ammonia and the pup will smell the wee even if you can't!

    Hope he soons out grows this for you. :)
     
  10. sammyben

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    Are you talking about during the day or night??? If during the day, are you keeping in cage all day??? And if so, why??
     
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    Just a thought but did you notice how clean your pup's mum kept the litter and what she was sleepong on?
    Only reason I ask is our liter was on vet bed, and mum wasn't making a very good job of keeping clean atall.. And the pups seemed to think the vet bed was the toilet.

    It sounds like your pup is in the crate quite alot. Maybe he is protesting that he is in there?
    I would have him out for more between being in the crate. And take the toilet training back to basics.

    x
     
  12. nickyjneve

    nickyjneve PetForums Newbie

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    Thanks for all your advice. Fletcher is 8 weeks old and a working cocker he is currently getting over a tummy upset, so is being fed on boiled rice and chicken at the advice of our vet and is getting better. We wash the bed in non bio powder on a hot wash and also use SOX odour eliminator. On the advice of the breeder, we keep him in his crate for 1 hour (now reduced to 45 mins re advice on this chat thread) then let him out for half an hour, then back in his crate for 45 mins then out again for half an hour and so on. Does anybody think that this is wrong?? He is happy and content, goes into the crate without a fuss, sometimes even on command - he is a beautiful little pup. The breeder said once he has the hang of the weeing and pooing thing that he will be out for longer, until eventually just sleeping in the crate at night. (crate is cosy and covered with a blanket with vet bed and cuddlys inside) We are concerned however that as he is weeing in his crate that he thinks it's ok to wee in his crate?? As he doesn't know that he shouldn't. He knows its fab to go in the garden though, as he gets loads of fuss and a treat if he does. There is so much conflicting advice, it's hard to know what is best, so we are being as intuitive as poss.
     
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    A puppy should only be in a crate when you arent around to supervise it. The way you are keeping him now, is cruel imo, and the breeder has given you atrocious advice.

    You should be taking your pup outside every 20 mins, after feeding, upon waking, and after play. You should be going outside with him, and encouraging him to go, and rewarding when him does.

    He wont learn unless you show him.

    In this instance, the use of the cage is being abused. I would worry about the psychological impact this could have on such a young dog.
     
  14. rona

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    I also think this is wrong advice, how will your puppy ever learn to ask to go out if it is never allowed to interact for more than 30 mins at a time.
    Puppies don't poo and wee on command, they just have to go when they need to, and this can be very frequent.
     
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    nickyjneve PetForums Newbie

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    Oh my God!!! Now i'm really thrown - how much damage can a breeder do? Thanks for advice, am taking it all in
     
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    At this age, your puppy needs to be spending more time with you, and meeting new people, going to places, than being on his own. Otherwise he may grow up unsocialised and you will have problems.

    There are a few threads about on crate training on here.

    But he should only be in it when you cannot have 100% of your attention on him.
    Take him out to pee on his lead every time he wakes up, after eating and playing, and every 20-30 mins in between. Stay with him until he pees and praise.

    Never let him out the crate if he whines or you will teach him he gets what he wants :)

    I hope now that we discovered you had bad advice you and your puppy will be happy :)

    x
     
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    I really hope you misunderstood what the breeder told you to do and that the breeder didn't actually mean for you to do that, as that is AWFUL. Dog's are NOT hamsters!!

    (I don't mean this in a nasty way towards you, I just hope the breeder doesn't give out that sort of advice as if she does, she needs banning from breeding)
     
  18. reddogs

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    Like the others I think it sounds like too much crate time and he probably isn't learning what is appropriate.

    Our pup goes in to her crate at night only, she's 12 weeks old today.

    During the day she is out and about in with the other dogs, yes we have accidents if we aren't watching, but, at the moment, she is sound asleep in one of the dog beds next to her mother. If she is especially rowdy and obviously overtired then she goes in to the puppy pen (which we still have up even tho' the other puppies have gone) where she promptly falls asleep.

    Once we take the pen down she will go in to her crate if we go out but always with a treat toy of some description.

    In your case time out would be an appropriate use of the crate but otherwise your baby should be out and about with you whilst you are able to watch him and let him get used to behaving in the house. He won't learn if he only spend a small amount of time out.

    Good luck, hope his tummy gets better soon
     
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    It should be biological washing powder or liquid like Surf or Daz like you use for whites to remove the smell. That's what I'm using to clean up after our puppy.
     
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