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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by dickybirdclocks, Apr 4, 2011.


  1. dickybirdclocks

    dickybirdclocks PetForums Junior

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    New to dog ownership so working a little blindly realy .Almost 10 weeks old ridgeback has been pretty much easy to manage thus far bearing in mind only had him for 12 days but last couple of days he seems to have become a little testing at times ,he seems to get an energy surge in the evening and will not settle and insists on keep nipping and mouthing
     
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    typical puppy.
    When he nips, yelp and walk away ignore him for 5 minutes. then return to playing with him

    I haven't had a ridgeback so I don't know their breed but others will be along soon.

    If he gets the energy at night then maybe a short walk and play before "bed" to see if that helps then settle him down for 30 minutes before you go to bed and ignore him
     
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    That's pups!:D


    Try focusing him onto toys and start a little clicker training. Wearing that little brain out will tire him!
     
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    Welcome to RR pups they are very intelligent and always curious about boundaries... Kilo tests the water constantly :rolleyes: Just be firm, don't ever let pup get away with anything (I'm only talking positive reinforcement techniques here).

    The evening energy surge seems to be common to all puppies; just make sure that he is not overtired (if he is crate trained it comes in handy as they tend to fall asleep within a minute or two if you pop him in it). Otherwise, ride it out; I have found that training takes their mind off pure devilment and tires them out faster.

    There are lots of good threads on here in the Training and Behaviour section, including a good sticky. The biting was our main problem, our hands were bleeding for weeks, it gradually declined until about 16 weeks of age or so and is now very occasional when Kilo is overtired / excited.
     
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    he wrecks his toys ,he has chewed a hole in a giant Kong (the octopus type) he chews with the side of his mouth and pulls at the slightest thread .He bit the noses of his rubber string of sausages on a rope. He just seems super wrestless but just the last couple of days - he keeps chewing on his blankets or my shirt etc. What does the clicker system involve and how difficult is it to get started ?.And he is not fond of going outside to toilet if it is raining so have had to keep coaxing him out with treats but even then i am wary of overfeeding him.
     
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    lol my girly finally stopped mouthing at 4mths old, you will get there hun (hopefully quicker than I did!) but it does take time :)
    There are a few very experienced Ridge owners who can offer breed specific help shortly, but with my breed (malamutes) Ive found making yelping noises when they nip makes no difference at all. We said a loud "ah ah" and stopped the game immediately, ignoring her till she calmed down.
     
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    i wonder if he is crying out for walkies to tire him out ?. We are awaiting getting him his 2nd injection so stuck with him unable to get out and release some energy .I get lots of conflicting info on how soon second injection can be given ,some say it can be given at 10 weeks with only 2 weeks between first and second others say 4 weeks between and then a further week also before dog can venture out - will i have any hair left by then or will i have pulled it all out.
     
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    It is better that he wrecks his toys rather than your belongings :) And the chewing will continue until he is through the teething process (touch wood our RR pup has never chewed the furniture etc but chews toys constantly. We used bitter apple spray when he showed interest in a kitchen chair and it worked well).

    Is he crate trained? I have found that Kilo misbehaves worst when he is over tired; rest is just as important as stimulation I think - just like for a human toddler!!

    The restlessness in general for us settled hugely once Kilo could go for a walk and what also really helps is a set daily routine; they seem to thrive on it.

    The 'yelp' as Starlite mentioned also wound Kilo up more - but I would probably still give it a go at first. We use 'no bite' said calmly and firmly, coupled with cessation of fun and a brief ignoring.

    Lastly, it may just be Kilo, but any raised voice in pitch, volume, speed or tome excites him more - he gets more excited. If he jumps on the sofa and I say 'off' sternly but calmly he will do it. If you get annoyed and say 'off' in a more excitable (read exasperated!!!) tone he starts a bark / spin type routine and goes into his 'puppy wall of death' racing about :rolleyes:
     
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    Do you do lots of going out and carrying him around to socialise him? Trips in the car? Sitting outside a supermarket etc?

    I know he will be heavy (my RR was 11kg when we got him at 9 weeks old) but it is well worth it, plus keeps them stimulated and tires them out a little too. the weather is getting great for sitting in the park / on a bench etc and watching the world go by :)
     
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    Talk to your vet re injections ,normally it's 2 weeks. To entertain him, give multiple chew toys, try the stag bar-search on here, it's literally an antler, really hardwearing, great for teething.

    Can you carry him? Take him to Pets at Home (don't put him down). New experiences wear them out so take him places in the car, maybe to friends' houses. He can meet other vaccinated dogs. Does your vet do puppy parties? You can also start training and make him earn treats-do sit, lie down etc. Hide treats and make him find them round the house. Lead walk him round the garden. Keep him thinking.
     
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    Oh, and one more thing; be wary of always coaxing out with treats for the toilet in case he decides that it is the only way he'll do it. Maybe pick him up and put him out if he isn't keen (gently of course!!) then just go mad with praise when he goes to the loo or go out first and make yourself exciting so that he can't resist venturing out to see what you are up to!
     
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    Our pup got his first injection at around 8-9 weeks (when we first brought him home), 2nd injection 2 weeks after that.

    Your puppy does not need exercise at this age, he needs experience, so he needs to meet lots of different types of people, hear and see lots of different things, and learn a household routine to prevent him from getting over-tired (which would likely make him more mouthy!) So try and set up regular times when he has his naps.

    Our ridgeback puppy was very mouthy, you just need to consistently end any games or attention when he does this. Turn your back, leave the room. I found yelping or saying "No!" did not work for our puppy. They (hopefully) learn that it's better not to bite human hands because it results in all the fun ending.
     
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    Very easy.

    Lots of good resources on the net

    clicker training - Google Search
     
  14. candysmum

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    That sounds like he is teething hun. Got to get them baby teeth out somehow for the nice new adult ones and they do that by chewing EVERYTHING. as long as he is chewing up his toys then thats good reward him for it he is cheing the right thigns thats what they are for. sadly teething you have to ride out.
     
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    Thanks for the replies everyone - I think because i am a first time dog owner i am working a bit blind so all advice is very welcomed from experienced hands.
     
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    I was in a similar position, my OH had dogs all his life, I never had and we got a Ridgeback puppy and my husband then had to go away :cryin:

    He sounds very typical of how Zimba was, he used to go crazy between 6-8pm. I don't think anyone has mentioned it, but what are you feeding him? I found changing his food helped a lot.

    The yelping noise just excited him more, so I tended to replace my hand/arm/leg with a toy for him to chew. I also found just getting up and turning my back had some effect. I think he got much better by 16 weeks.

    It's hard to carry a Ridgeback pup around as they are so large. Do you have any friends/family with friendly vaccinated dogs? I used to take Zimba to play with our neighbours Tibetian Mastiff, partly to socialise him and partly to wear him out. I remember crying on the phone to them and my neighbour carrying him to their house to give me a break lol

    It sounds like you are doing fine. Look at the clicker training, we did this with Zimba from 8 weeks and making him think also helps tire pups, it still does tire him more than a walk. Obviously it helps with the training too.
     
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    I found that period of time, waiting for vaccs to be able to walk him, very trying. A 12 week old collie I couldn't take for walks, he drove me nuts! I used to run him round the garden a few times a day - it was only a little garden, but playing with a ball or rope toy probably saved my sanity!
    I can't remember the time span for vaccs, your vet will be able to tell you. Once you're able to walk him, it will improve, I'm sure :) As for whether you'll have any hair left, no guarantees there ;)
     
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    ridgeback ben is realy starting to wind me up ,most of the day he has been biting and the biting is getting harder .When he is good he is allowed to sit on chair with us either on my lap or on a blanket beside her indoors on sofa snuggled up to her.when he keeps biting he is placed on floor and told calmly no biting and he just carries on so he gets told more sternly no biting he also jumps up back onto chair however many times he is placed back on floor with toy/s, he sometimes is then placed in kitchen behind a child gate this winds him up and he starts to be vocal sometimes very vocal.just wonder how long i can hold out my hands are starting to get sore with the amount of biting.Thankfully he is now on my lap asleep - a bit of peace at last.
     
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    Just persevere and be consistent, our hands were bleeding for about three weeks; it was so sore to wash up or wash our hands!! Our cuffs were ripped too so only old clothes were worn.

    It seems as if there is no end...then one day you will realise that you haven't been bitten for a few hours, then it turns into a morning, then most of the day etc etc and you notice the bite intensity backing right off. About 16weeks was the point at which all manner of behaviour improved dramatically and the biting reduced to only when very tired and excitable. We are now at the stage where Kilo sometimes goes to bite, starts to shut his mouth, realises and opens his mouth again!!

    Ignore the vocal....won't take him long to realise that it doesn't get him anywhere!
     
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    My son just visited and looked so comfortable with unruly pup attacking him and biting at regular intervals he took control of the dog totally ,he has had experience unlike myself being the owner of two boxers from pup .Just have to bite my tongue and put up with puppy behaviour it does only last for a few weeks - Doesn't it ?
     
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