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Tremendous progress on the ban declaw front

Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by lorilu, Jun 4, 2019.


  1. lorilu

    lorilu PetForums VIP

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    The New York State bill to ban declawing has passed both Senate and Assembly today with overwhelming majorities! This is HUGE! (the legislation has been presented for the last 5 years) The final step is for Governor Cuomo to sign it into law. I don't know when that happens. I will not even consider the possibility of a veto.

    In other news 7 provinces in Canada have now banned declawing in the past 18 months. Nova Scotia, British Columbia, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and Labrador, Alberta, New Brunswick (effective July 2019) and Manitoba. In Canada, each province has their Veterinary Medical Association and all practicing vets are required to belong and adhere to all regulations once voted on and passed. What this means is these bans were decided BY the veterinarians. This also is huge, that vets are finally saying NO.

    Also in Canada, last year VCA Canada, a veterinary chain, stopped declawing cats. (VCA US still declaws)

    Five other states in the US have legislation in process: New Jersey (which passed it's first assembly by a majority 2 years ago but has stalled since then), Rhode Island, West Virginia, Massachusetts and California.

    When (not if!) the New York State law goes into effect, this will be the wedge in the door needed to really get this moving.
     
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    This is brilliant news @lorilu! Very heartening too that the impetus to get this really moving came from the vets. :)

    Well done to you and your fellow campaigners, in the US and Canada, for enabling this momentous change in the law to happen. :)

    Fingers crossed that the law takes effect in NYS.
     
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    Yes, it came from the vets, in Canada. Not in the US though. The VMAs in the US are still spending tens of thousands in lobbying to defeat these bills. Declawing vets in the US do not want to give up their gravy train. There are more and more vets refusing to do it, but there are some who just will not stop, and will have to be stopped by laws.

    A quick illustration of this: last month there was a cat convention in a New Jersey town that was openly anti-declaw. One vet who had purchased a table there set up all her declaw literature and pictures and propaganda, and even went so far as to walk around handing out flyers advertising her declawing services. People were very angry and she was asked to stop and to take down her display, and she refused. She was asked to pack up, by the owner of the event, and she refused. Finally had to be escorted out by security and (last I heard) has threatened to sue the Convention.

    Some vets in the US are still advertising spay/declaw combos, offering coupons for declawing, pushing clients to declaw using blatant lies to sell the kitty toe amputations. Most shelters and rescues, having seen the devastating results first hand, are against declawing and have "no declaw" clauses in their contracts. There are a few though, in this country, who deliberately declaw every cat and kitten who passes through their doors claiming it makes them "more adoptable". These are seen by most of us as kitten flipping shops and we work hard to educate against them. We never stop educating, but I am sure you can imagine how often it falls on deaf ears. However, every now and then there is that tiny success, where someone listens and is talked out of having it done, or has learned to regret and will never have it done again. Every little triumph like that keeps us going.
     
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    My goodness you all really have your work cut out still, with educating people don't you! How can the VMAs possibly justify wanting to continue with the toe amputations?!! There is so much scientific evidence around these days that it is a cruel practice causing the cat painful feet and spine problems for the rest of its life.! How can a vet possibly justify it!

    Shocking story of the vet at the New Jersey cat convention, when the convention was openly anti-declawing! What can she have been thinking of! :Banghead
     
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    This is progress and I think eventually it will be banned all over the Western world but certain Americans Declawers are completely delusional and can be quite verbally abusive to Anti declawers.
     
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    Brilliant progress
     
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    Great and can't believe in this day and age that parts of USA and Canada allow it.
     
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  8. lillytheunicorn

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    Fantastic news.

    I just do not get the arguments for de clawing. TICA still won’t pass a declawing ban to stop allowing cats who are being declawed to be shown. IMO the arguments are ridiculous, I am not sure how we cope having cats in the UK who have claws ;) especially people like me who have bleeding issues. You would think I was going to exsanguinate listening ing to the pro de claw element.
     
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    Congratulations on your success, it's fantastic news.
     
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    By the way, the progress of the bill can be watched here:

    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/s5532/amendment/b

    I do not know how long it takes for a legislation that has passed assembly and senate to make it to the governor's desk or how long he can take to sign a bill. We studied government in 9th grade social studies class and let me tell you that was a long time ago haha.

    But as soon as I hear, I will update this thread.

    EDIT I found this :

    The governor must sign or veto legislation within 10 days after transmittal (excluding Sunday), or it becomes law without his/her signature. Legislation transmitted with fewer than 10 days left in the session must be acted upon by the governor within 30 days after adjournment, or is pocket vetoed.

    http://statescape.com/resources/legislative/bill-signing-deadlines.aspx

    But how long it takes to transmit the bill may prolong things I think.....hmmmm.......
     
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    Thanks lorilu. :)
     
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    It's all heading in the right direction, so good news.
     
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    Progress :D
     
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    Fantastic News. :)x
     
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    Excellent news! :) Well done to you and all your fellow campaigners! :)
     
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    Brilliant news.
     
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    Fantastic news! Hopefully more states follow suit
     
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