Well...they do it...sort of. But I want perfection The older one, who is also the father, is very fast and usually beats the younger dog to the ball, although I often trick him so the younger one can get his go as well. So basically the younger dog has had less practice fetching the ball and is probably worse at it. When the father fetches the ball he rarely brings it back, and the younger one is the same but he just drops the ball and goes off somewhere sniffing. So the answer is to use treats right? Well..the thing is, is that they don't seem to work, at least not on my dogs. I've been trying to teach the father with treats for 7 years, but he would prefer to play psychological games than bring the ball back and get the treat. He knows perfectly well I have doggy treats as well believe me. I have tried dragging him back with a leash but he just drops the ball. I have to walk over to him and literally wrench the ball out of his mouth with a crowbar (obviously joking about the crowbar). It's not hard to take it out of his mouth but I want him to drop it nicely on the floor and come right the way up to me obediently. A little pedantic perhaps? I don't know.The puppy on the other hand, I don't think he has grasped the concept that if he brings the ball back, he gets a treat. He knows what to do though, and he does it correctly. Sometimes he waits with the ball like the father but he does drop it for me. Any suggestions? Both dogs are labradors (if that is relevant) and the father is 7 years old while the son is 8 months.