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Training Mistakes You Won't Repeat....

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Katalyst, Jun 6, 2017.


  1. Katalyst

    Katalyst A Lanky Lurcher and a Delinquent Dobermann

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    Further to the comment I made to @speug regarding Logans similarities to a trait of Cuillins and how in his case, I am responsible for making it worse by inadvertently encouraging and reinforcing the infuriating social butterfly behaviour, what mistakes do you feel you have made regarding training over the years?

    How would you do it differently next time around?

    I without doubt got it wrong with Logan by taking the "make sure you meet a dog a day and socialise heavily" thing a bit *too* literally. He got to meet and bounce and wriggle and **** about with me cluelessly trying to keep him calm and distract him with biscuits lol.
    The only thing I think I probably did have right was to remove him the second he got too over the top.

    So.
    Spill the beans!
     
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    ForestWomble PetForums VIP

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    Oh heaps of things probably!
     
  3. Siskin

    Siskin Look into my eyes....

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    Two things with Isla.

    First one is similar to yours with Logan. My neighbours had an 18 month old dog who was still very playful and I took puppy Isla over to their garden several times for a bit of play. Now Isla is fixated with this poor dog who has now grown up and the not at all playful and would rather spend time sniffing and seeking out rabbits. On the the few occasions we meet up with them when out on a walk, Isla is obviously thinking, yippee there's my playmate and rushes over to meet and greet and to try and start a game with a grumpy dog who doesn't want to know. We don't linger as we end up apologising to each other, the neighbours over their grumpy dog and me over Isla's ott behaviour. She doesn't do this with any other dog.

    The second thing is teaching Isla to give a paw. It seems to be a built in behaviour with Goldens anyway, to randomly plonk a great big (often wet) paw on your lap at every oppourtunity, I should have known better. I seem to have managed to get her out of the habit again although not helped by a friend asking for a paw before giving her a treat a couple of weeks ago.
     
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    Letting Bonnie use a flexi lead with a harness before properly lead training her, turned her into a sled dog for 3 months
     
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    Letting Jack off lead too soon.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    I did the same with my old girl Gem...she couldn't half run...and to think she always looked so slow and gentle on a lead!
     
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    Taught Tess to jump into my arms...
    Never again..at every opportunity she would try this...when I wasn't looking mostly...even when I was too. Staffy cross full pelt = on floor in seconds
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Taught Tess to talk..so she talked the whole time when she needed something..toilet food...on walks she would be vocal and talk as if to say..nearly there and can I go off lead..
    Cute when they are 12 weeks old and you say..what do you want and you get vocalisation and bark and say they run to back door...open the door and they go for a wee.
    Gets tedious when they are 2...

    It's not as if Tess was my first puppy....but you know when you see another dog do it, and an owner says don't ever teach it because your dog will not shut up...believe it!
     
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    kare PetForums VIP

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    I feel listening to the point of view of others with my first dog damaged our early relationship

    She was a three year old black German Shepherd, and the village was full of old people and small dogs

    Very quickly I recognised that it was prejudice and not our fault, my mantra became to ask myself "would they object if she were a Lab and not a GSD?" unfortunately I found most of the time I believed they would not have not been so "off" with her mere presence in the same park as their muppet if she was a different breed of the same size

    ....and on the rare occasion I felt they may have I sorted out my own behaviour.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Taught Eevee not to bring her previous bats into the downstairs in to the room or Tess will destroy them...works well she's very obedient to this..apart from I tended to tell her you need to drop them when she's on the stairs...so find our stairs is a death trap covered in bats. However no need to tell her, she dropped them automatically...so she did learn...

    Visitors must think we are Ozzy Osbourne lovers or Meatloaf lovers...we do like Meatloaf...it's a bit bad when we say check for bats when people need toilet!
     
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    Mirandashell Banned

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    Oh yes... Ty's ex-mom taught him to do that. I'm trying to teach 'show me' so he goes to the thing he wants. Otherwise I end up wandering around the house saying 'this? This? What?' and he looks at me like I'm really thick.
     
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  12. Lexiedhb

    Lexiedhb Team Ginger!

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    Letting the blumming great lump sleep in the bed - if he's been allowed to do it once it STICKS like poop to a blanket. I shall never allow a dog to do something (on purpose) that I dont want to let them do forever.........
    Think Trainers/ behaviourists (even very credible, experienced, ones who come with epic reviews) are always 100% right and allow them to do things to my dog which IMO were detrimental to him. (Easy to say with hindsight, and 6 years of PITA dog ownership under my belt, not so easy with CRAZY, bitey, jumpy, reacty adolescent bullbreed and first time dog owner)
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Tess did always show me.. whiney bark meant follow me...so it was obvious!
     
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    Mirandashell Banned

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    Ty doesn't. He just whines and stands there looking at me. He is gradually getting the idea that he needs to go to the back door or his food bowl or whatever it is he wants me to deal with.
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    This is more a warning, well reminder...of my stupidity...and I am sure no one else can be as stupid...but you know not really a training error...

    My dogs are usually trained to sit and wait for food till given command..so Jovi was sat food plonked down..Gem food sat food plonked down..released her...went to dish up out tea ate tea, started clearing pots washing up. Jovi still sat at food bowl...then realised hadn't released him to eat...poor Jovi! Stupid owner....At least now my dogs are fed from a variety of things, having toy breeds foods gone in a flash.. and to be fair none are as obedient as Jovi was...

    I think mistakes can be funny, mistakes are natural and mistakes make us better trainers..
     
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  16. Katalyst

    Katalyst A Lanky Lurcher and a Delinquent Dobermann

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    Taught Logan to bark on command fairly recently.
    He's practically mute and just makes occasionally quite "oofs".
    We live right at the edge of a ton of fields and a bridleway. We get teenagers hanging around smoking joints and occasional people driving down at 3am to skulk about. Because of this, I felt the need to train in a BIG bark.

    The downside to that is that now when he does bark, it's MASSIVE! :Hilarious
    Pretty sure if people saw that the huge deep booming noise and gravelly barking came from a blithering idiot of a lurcher, it'd be rather less intimidating :rolleyes:

    And of course he now likes to raise his voice in response to me asking him questions or if I make him do something he doesn't want to.
    Me: "Logan, down." *goes into down stay*
    Logan: "BOOF! BOOF! BOOF!"
    Me: " :Shifty "
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    The main vet at our practice says...you need to socialise your puppy or even dog...say if it's not been socialised well, with people, other dogs, cows and horses. I love this line and when he expands on it, he means from a distance...although I still have visions of people running over a field with their puppy to shove their puppies face in that of a cow, like you hear stories of puppy owners doing that with dogs!
     
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    lullabydream PetForums VIP

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    Cleo is my starer...she obviously thinks we are mind readers. She just sits staring, I know the majority of the time she wants to go to bed...as that's where she spends the majority of her time...we check water...we open the back door for toilet just in case...she knows walk so when asked about that she doesn't respond...so we have absolutely no idea. But she can literally stare at you for an hour..
     
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    Wilmer PetForums Senior

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    I trained Betty to give paw on command, OH managed to encourage her to offer it willy nilly without a command, and now complains that she keeps punching him in the nuts. I may have uttered something along the lines of "I told you so".
     
  20. Mirandashell

    Mirandashell Banned

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    :D Yep!

    I have worked out that when he needs to go out for a pee NOW he will jump up onto the sofa or the bed and literally stand on me.
     
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