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toilet traing with pads

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by christweedie, Apr 13, 2019.


  1. christweedie

    christweedie PetForums Newbie

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    I am having problems toilet training my shihtzu pup
    I have had her two weeks she is just 10 weeks now and not peeing on pads in the beginning was good just order dog pen to see if that helps
    any suggestions
     
  2. Happy Paws

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    First throw away the pads and take her in the garden after every meal and then every few hours, pads just confuses the puppy and she'll think it's OK to wee the the house.
     
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  3. christweedie

    christweedie PetForums Newbie

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    I cant take her out yet she does not get her final injection for two weeks I have a communal garden and there is a dog that might use it
    so do you think I am expecting to much to soon
     
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    When you say she isn't peeing on the pads, is she going in a certain spot or just where ever she happens to be?

    I couldn't take my pup out until he'd had all his injections due to having a communal area only too, it took a while to get him going on the pads reliably but it does happen in the end.
     
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    Check and see if the other dog is up to date with vaccinations. If so there is no problem with allowing your pup in the garden. TBH I would risk it anyway for the sake of the pup.
     
  6. danielled

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    You CAN take her out in the garden. That is one of my big things if you can’t yet take her out for walks take her out to the garden. Puppy pads are bad, they say hey well done inside is the place to toilet and quite frankly they are a big no no. You can make a pen to use as her toilet area in the garden.
     
  7. sskmick

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    Take her out in the garden after she has eaten, when she wakes up, and after she has been playing, watch for her sniffing to find a place to toilet. If necessary pick her up and run her outside. Once she toilets give her a puppy treat and lots of praise.

    My little lass is almost 2 years old and she lets us know when she wants to go out to toilet, she has been house-trained for quite a long time now, she was longer to house-train than my previous boy, but they all develop in their own time, some gain control quicker than others.

    I started by soaking up the fresh wee onto a puppy pad. I cover an area with puppy pads overlapping them, so no gaps and place the soiled pad on top. I still use puppy pads as they have a plastic backing, this is for emergency use, well we have to go shopping, hospital appointments etc., sometimes we are less than an hour other times we can be hours. If we needed a toilet and had no access to a toilet, could we wait for hours? no we couldn't, some dogs can and will, but I prefer to have an emergency area.

    One puppy pad is not enough because sometimes their paws are on the pad but their bum isn't. I ignore any accidents and simply clear it up and put fresh ones down. I have to admit I haven't had to put any fresh ones down for quite a while now.

    I wouldn't take her out in the garden either if it is a communal garden, it isn't worth the risk, for the sake of another few weeks.
     
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    The OP only has a communal garden, I have always trained my puppies and my parents trained their puppies on newspaper for emergencies all were fully housetrained within a few months. Provided the accidents indoors are ignored and when toileting outside they are rewarded and praised - never had a problem.

    OP be wise and keep your little one inside until vaccinations are complete and you have the all clear from your vet, usually two weeks after before you take her out. No such thing as you can't teach an old dog new tricks, you can they are no different to us they are capable of learning their whole life.
     
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    While there is a small risk I think that going outside has greater benefits...not just toilet training but also socialisation to the environment
     
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    Which is why I suggested a pen of some sort. Then there wouldn’t be any your a bad dog because you toileted indoors. It would avoid confusion.
     
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    If the garden is being used by unvaccinated dogs/dog, then it isn't safe to take a ten week old pup there.

    I'm no fan of puppy pads, but for those who don't have access to a garden, they can be useful in the early days of housetraining.
     
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    that is why I suggested that it would be ok if the other dog is vaccinated. Well worth checking
     
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    When McKenzie was a puppy I didn’t have a private garden, and the situation of where I lived was such that there were a number of other dogs and a lot of wildlife around. I had no choice but to use puppy pads. Yes, it meant toilet training took longer, but in the grand scheme of things it really wasn’t such a big deal. It’s not like puppies that start off on pads will never be successfully toilet trained.
     
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    I don’t think the risk is necessarily a small one. There’s a lot of parvo at the moment where I live and vets are urging caution. Likewise if someone lives in an area with a lot of rats and water, lepto is a real risk. Socialisation can be done in safe ways, although I know that it’s more difficult with bigger puppies. People need to make their own risk assessment I think.
     
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    If the puppy has an area to toilet indoors there is no confusion, because the dog is not a bad dog. Even with the best house-training a puppy will have the odd accident indoors, it is much better for the puppy to toilet in a designated area.

    Putting a pen up, unless it has a floor to it, would still put the puppy at risk where other dogs have walked, pee'd and poo'd. I would rather delay outdoor house training until the vet advised the puppy can be taken outside.

    If you would prefer to take the risk, that is your choice.
     
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    I disagree, no-one can estimate the level of risk, just that it is a risk and one that I wouldn't take. If I felt the level of risk was a small one, I doubt I would bother vaccinating an animal. It is down to personal choice.

    Socialising can take place by introducing family and friends vaccinated dogs, vets sometimes have puppy parties once the puppies are fully vaccinated. You can carry a small puppy to introduce them to people, children etc..
     
  17. Blitz

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    The OP said there is one other dog with access to the garden so I do not see what the problem is. It is not like dogs are coming off the street on to a patch of grass she would be using!
    As for the rats and lepto analogy how on earth do farm dogs every survive. They are with access to rats from day one. I would never keep a pup housebound till it was vaccinated. It is just not right. My puppies have always been out on the farm and in the garden from the moment they come home. Unless you live in an area with a great deal of parvo and absolutely nowhere to take the dog on your own property what is the problem.
     
  18. danielled

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    My suggestion would avoid confusion. I’m sorry
    There is because of the pads. They should be illegal.
     
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    OP I’m sorry I bothered offering a suggestion. I wish you the best of luck.
     
  20. SusieRainbow

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    I leave a 'potty mat 'down when we go out for Reena , she knows it's for emergencies only and uses it very rarely.
    I think they definitely have a place in the house when outside toileting is, for whatever reason, inpractical.
    We also have one of those 'Little Rascal' litter boxes with the fake grass insert but neither of the dogs would use that even just after surgery or in the most dire weather !:rolleyes:
     
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