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To all those with dogs who lack attention, or are obsessed with other dogs

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by Colliepoodle, Nov 5, 2008.


  1. Muttly

    Muttly Fluffy Mutts Rule!

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    Good on you! :) My dog is supposed to be a 'Jack -a- Chi' but he wasn't planned and was in a way a rescue. I wouldn't purposely seek out a designer dog. To me he's just a Muttly :tongue_smilie:
     
  2. lostbear

    lostbear Bear right at Newcastle . . .

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    Why? Can't you just be miserable like the rest of us? :laugh:
     
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  3. lostbear

    lostbear Bear right at Newcastle . . .

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    Just noticed this - I would like one of these, but can we spell it "fleegle", please, otherwise with my luck I'll end up with one covered with parasites! :yikes:
     
  4. rachyni

    rachyni PetForums Newbie

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    I'm currently in floods of tears because I've just been shouted at by some horrible woman because my gsp boy who is very sweet and friendly and who I've worked hard training is ' out of control, aggressive with his hackles up' he loves other dogs and I have problems getting him to leave them alone ... But I feel really despondent and will be nervous now when I take him out. I'm pretty sure its not aggression just excitement. . he never growls or barks but doesn't react when the other dog tells him to go away ... What can I do ?
     
  5. Meezey

    Meezey Slave to the Black & Tans and the Trundle Bugs.

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  6. Dogloverlou

    Dogloverlou PetForums VIP

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    Hackles up can be a sign of arousal usually as a result of feeling uncertain about the situation. How old is your dog? He sounds like he lacks social awareness and if he doesn't listen to other dog's telling him to go away you really must step in....or better yet, don't allow him to find himself in these situations. How is his recall without distractions?
    Try not to let what the other owner said get to you, but use this as a stepping stone to really teaching your dog appropriate behaviour out and about. While working on a solid recall you need to keep him on a long line or flexi in distracting environments where you know you won't be able to keep his focus so as not to set him up for failure.
     
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    Staffylover122456 PetForums Newbie

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    I've got a 9 week old staff comes to me when called as soon as there's other dogs or people around runs straight to them
     
  8. PawsandFeathers

    PawsandFeathers PetForums Member

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    I would honestly be furious if someone just allowed their overly friendly dog bound up to mine but I have been on the other side of the fence. I have shouted at owners who showed no signs of recalling their but if they made the efforts to collect then I would not have a go.

    The trouble is over friendlyness is just as serious as not friendly at all I don't get why the friendly dogs have the run of the park. It can cause all sorts of issues for owners who trying to help their own dog and its very infuriating when people just stride past you without any care what their dog is doing.

    I have been on the other side of the fence I own one dog who adores other dogs and people if I let her she would become that annoying dog that bounds up and makes other dogs play with her which is in all honesty not acceptable.

    I own another dog who is particular about the dogs she meets and will tell off rude dogs and her recall gets worse if the other dogs will not leave her alone. It can also be serious for the overly friendly dog because one day they will meet a dog bigger and stronger then they are and less tolorent then the others and get attacked that's how fights can happen.


    Its great having friendly dogs in some ways easier but they still need to taught how to behave around others otherwise they can get hurt.
     
  9. Rahoulb

    Rahoulb PetForums Member

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    That's still quite young, so he will need further training to understand that "come" means "come", no matter what the circumstances (although no dog can ever be 100%). In particular, people and dogs will be really really exciting to a puppy; much more exciting than you. So you need to persuade the dog that you are the most important and exciting thing around; which involves lots of repetition and practising in different places and with different levels of distractions (starting with boring places so you are the most interesting thing around and gradually building up to places with leaves blowing, interesting smells and finally dogs and people).
     
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  10. waltergibbs

    waltergibbs vegetables are delicious

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    That is good news. It is often hard to judge attention vs humanization of the beast. I like the idea of focused time. I did not see any mention of dominance of the group of dogs together, which may help put you in "head honcho" position and give you a natural pedestal (i didnt use "thee pack leeeder"). I only say this because one of my pups was a bit like that, following our oldest, and being the nimble hatchetman for the older one's devious ideas. It is awkward, like yelling at your kid for something their friend is doing while visiting "Stephen, stop pulling your sister's hair! I'm not mom! Well whoever it is stop it!" kinda thing.
     
  11. CNJ

    CNJ PetForums Newbie

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    Rachyni...
    I really feel for you after reading that post. My partner and I have a GSD who we got at 4 months and so didn't have the 'socialisation' period with him. He's fantastic with people, will walk to heal on and off lead and has recently finally developed really good recall...that is until another dog is around...
    We're totally stuck...on the one hand we are responsible dog owners so whenever we see another dog we immediately put him on lead (unfortunately this seems to turn him to a 'puller' towards the dog which because of his size make him seem scary and people avoid us so can't meet ither dogs whilst on a lead), on the other hand we desperately want him to socialise but when we have the opportunity to do this we risk being shouted at if we can't get him back!
    There have been so many times that I've come home in tears after walking him by myself, it feels so lonely...all these people who say 'he should have been socialised when young' or 'you need to train your dog'... We've done soooo much with him...trainers and behaviourists yet still have the dog problem.

    Incidentally he has numerous dogs he plays with when we return to my parents and inlaws (collies, retrievers, Labradors) and he's awesome once he's met them off lead for 1 minute...it's just getting that minute that seems difficult where we live!

    This doesn't help you I realise but please know there are others out there who are in similar circumstances...maybe it might make you feel you aren't alone?! And of course if you happen to live in the Dorking/Reigate area let me know if your GSP would like to play with an 18month old GSD...no judgement involved!

    Claire
     
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  12. havoc

    havoc PetForums VIP

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    I too identify and sympathise. You can do everything to socialise your pup but it's a real problem with large and boisterous breeds. Take yours along to puppy socialisation groups and it can be up to twenty times the weight of the smallest pups at the same age so has to be constrained to an extent which must be frustrating. Doubly annoying is when the other, smaller and cuter pups are actually behaving much worse than your 'monster' but of course size attracts attention. Take heart owners, mine was also vocal which is much worse - far more embarrassing as it gives a real impression of aggression :) I managed to deal with the pulling towards other dogs more easily than the barking. After some work, on the lead he'd see another dog coming towards us and immediately sit at my side - and bark. I had to move onto really high value treats to counter that and to be honest I'm not sure he wouldn't have grown out of it on his own. Could be I prolonged the problem using treats - they aren't stupid dogs after all. There's so much information on training out there these days and I do think new owners can sometimes get the impression they should have a perfectly socialised and trained dog within weeks. All those youtube clips of cute Pugs learning wonderful tricks in a matter of minutes and other dogs behaving perfectly on the lead would have had me utterly despondent.
     
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  13. Mesotes

    Mesotes PetForums Member

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    Having a large and boisterous puppy/dog is quite the challenge. When I took Oscar to puppy classes, he was a little older than all the other dogs and ten times bigger, so he was not allowed to play before the class, he had to stay outside the enclosure and watch the fun. :( He was also banished to behind the counter during class time because of his size, and he was the best student in the class with his sits, downs and stays. Needless to say we didn't finish the full course.
     
  14. IndieWolfe

    IndieWolfe PetForums Newbie

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    Glad you and your girl are doing so well. Thanks for this post, it is nice to hear success stories. It gives me hope that the training will pay off with my girl and reminds me that she will eventually mature and get a little easier to manage. I love her and we have good days as far as training but she is still very much a 5 month old puppy.
     
  15. brendaanne3

    brendaanne3 Furbaby: Apollo, BC/husky/lab mix of love <3

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    Oh my goodness, thank you so much for this post! I saw the topic title and immediately thought "this is EXACTLY my situation!"

    I never realized how much Apollo (my 3 1/2 month old border collie/husky mix) was distracted by other dogs until I took him into his first formal training sessions with a few other pups. He whined the entire time when I wouldn't let him run over and play with the other dogs and when I would want him to focus on what I wanted to teach him. Since coming home from this class (I only just started going this past week) I've been working with him a ton on keeping his attention on me and checking back with me throughout walks and I've already seen an improvement! At least when there's not too many things to distract him. But we're getting there!

    It's great to know that others have the same growing pains and that my little furbaby isn't alone!
     
  16. Puppy_luv

    Puppy_luv PetForums Newbie

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    That is nice to hear...
     
  17. Jess Pryce

    Jess Pryce PetForums Junior

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    Thankyou, you have shown their is light at the end of the tunnel. Trying to teach my 7month old border collie that im more interesting then any dog is very hard work and im making slow progress lol. But will keep at it!
     
  18. Jess Pryce

    Jess Pryce PetForums Junior

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    This has given me hoping reading all this. I have a 9month old collie, who has just done her bronze award, but shes very playful and just wants to run up to other dogs and meet them and if she cant she barks. We are starting agility soon and having a few privet lessons to get her to focus on me, because as soon as another dog is there all concentration has gone.
    I feel like im putting so much work and time into her and nothing is working, but reading all the above comments i now feel that there is light at the end of the tunnel and i just need to keep going. So thankyou :)
     
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    Twiggy PetForums VIP

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    You'll get there and nine months is still very young. My little rescue collie is four years old now and still loves socialising with other dogs and handlers (too much IMO) but once she's on the start line at an agility show, her concentration is absolute.
     
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  20. Macdowell

    Macdowell PetForums Junior

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    Hi, rachyni, you don't have a problem with your dogs behaviour, it's the woman who upset you that has a problem with hers. Carry on as you are cause no one knows your dog better than you and it's blatantly clear you are exactly what a dog needs in an owner. Keep on loving and living because unfortunately there are some people who are so un happy they ain't satisfied till they spoil someone else's day. Show your dog you are still that confident and responsible owner and he will be all the better for it. What's more important, your dogs happiness or this horrible woman's attitude? Who I now suspect you couldn't give two hoots for. Don't change a single thing because of that wretched so and so.
    We are completely on your side.
     
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