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Thoughts on docking and cropping

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Jenandmax11, Jul 13, 2017.


  1. Jenandmax11

    Jenandmax11 PetForums Newbie

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    Hi, so i have a doberman who is so adorable with his floppy ears and tail.. tho all i get asked is why didnt you get his tail of and ears posted .. just wondering whats everyones thoughts on this (i personally am against it)
     
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    Tail docking is another ridiculous 'breed standard' [or at least something people expect to see and is accepted] but it is totally unacceptable IMO - as for cropping if [as I assume] you mean ears that is obscene and should result in a prison sentence + the cropping of the owners ears as punishment.
     
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    Jenandmax11 PetForums Newbie

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    Couldnt agree more!!
     
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    Goblin PetForums VIP

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    Cropping in the UK for cosmetic reasons is banned. Simple as that and shouldn't be changed.
     
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    I am presuming that you are not from the UK, as cropping is banned in this country likewise with most of Europe.

    Docking is still legal for certain working dogs.

    Cropping is a horrible practice as it's purely cosmetic, which I find ironic because I think it looks really ugly. If you want a prick eared breed then buy one, don't put a pet through cosmetic surgery because it doesn't fit your ideals. I find the practice utterly bizarre.
     
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    Im from northern ireland and i know its illegal and even if it was legal i wouldnt get it done to max... was just asking peoples opinions on what they think of it
     
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    labradrk PetForums VIP

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    Strange that people have been asking you about cropped ears then? I believe it's been banned for over 100 years.

    I can only presume that most people with cropped dogs in this country either have them illegally or get them from some obscure country where it's legal. The only conclusion I can come to is that it must be a status symbol thing because they can't be shown, and most cropped breeds are very rarely used in any sort of working capacity any more.
     
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  8. ouesi

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    If you're happy with your dog as is, and it's illegal to crop/dock in your country anyway, why is this even a question?
     
  9. labradrk

    labradrk PetForums VIP

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    I do wonder whenever anyone mentions the 'c' word.....

    [​IMG]
     
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    Maybe they posted pictures on a US dobe site, or fb group and they aren't being asked irl. I first saw pictures of a dobe puppy with his ears being set on an American forum over 20 years ago and thought he'd been in a horrible accident. I had no idea people cut their dogs' ears off. When I was a kid my mother told me there were two types of dobes, English ones with ears and American ones in Disney films which were bred with different ears. I thought the English ones looked much nicer. How innocent we were. :eek:
     
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    There's quite a lot of pictures of dobes with cropped ears on FB. Most American dobes still have their ears cropped, I think.
     
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    Sled dog hotel PetForums VIP

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    Personally I'm with you on this one, there is no good reason whatsoever why dogs need their tails docked and their ears cropped purely for cosmetic reasons alone and because a group of enthusiasts in the breed decides that's how they should look. Both are unnecessary surgical procedures. If dogs were meant to have short stubby tails and smaller cropped like ears and it was beneficial to the dog then nature and evolution would have sorted it out naturally.
     
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    Zaros Pet Forums, P/resident Evil

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    Cropped ears and docked tails on Dobes, I blame Magnum PI.

    If you want a dog to look tough, get it a spiked collar.

    Then, when folks tell you you're pathetic, at least you can remove the collar and chuck it in the bin.

    No harm done, except perhaps, a small dent in your pride.
     
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    I wouldn't think that ear cropping would be completely irrelevant question even though it's technically illegal in the UK as you could easily have a dog shipped in from the USA or elsewhere.

    It's crazy how different it is depending on what you're used to. There's lots of people in the states that really defend their right to have their dog's ears cropped and it is almost a requirements with some breeds for dog shows. I rarely see advocates of ear cropping from outside the states. It's a cultural difference, really. O.O
     
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    As for me personally, I just avoid breeds where ear cropping is the norm. There are risks with all procedures and I'd be really upset with myself if, for example, my dog got an infection and died after I had its ear's cropped. Basically, my dog would have died because of a purely cosmetic procedure. :(
     
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    Ear cropping is illegal in Hungary and tail docking can only be done before a puppy's 7 days old. I have a Miniature Schnauzer (with full tail and floppy ears) a breed which traditionally was cropped and docked and you'll still find some dogs that are but they're ones that have been imported here from other European countries where the practice is still allowed

    It all depends where you are showing the dog. In the UK showing dogs with docked tails is permitted under certain circumstances, whilst cropped ears is never acceptable

    The FCI regulations are are slightly different
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    Dogs with docked tails or cropped ears are to be admitted in accordance with the legal regulations of their home countries and those of the country where the show takes place. The judging of docked and undocked or cropped and uncropped dogs must be done without any discrimination and solely in accordance with the valid breed standard. The organizing country’s regulations concerning showing docked or cropped dogs should be stated in the show schedule or on the entry forms as well as in the show regulations.
     
  18. FeelTheBern

    FeelTheBern They don't like it up 'em, sir!

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    I think tail docking should only be performed in circumstances where it will benefit the dog. For example a dog who is going to work could have its tail docked to prevent injuries. Cropping is completely unnecessary as it is purely cosmetic.
     
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    Should a dog be put in a position where it needs it's tail amputated to prevent Injury?
     
  20. FeelTheBern

    FeelTheBern They don't like it up 'em, sir!

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    I suppose not, but it's just a precaution. A gundog's tail could easily be injured when it is scrambling under things and running through undergrowth.
     
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