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Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by RottieMummy, Apr 19, 2017.


  1. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    We've brought home our new kitten today and we were told she is 9 weeks old and given a date of birth that corresponds with this.

    However she seems very tiny to me, now it's been a long long time since I've had kittens around so thought maybe I've forgotten how small they are, plus I've always had large breeds.

    Anyway I weighed her to ease my worries and she's 512 grams which to me is way way too small! Her mother was a Asian cross type, not a full breed certainly but had Siamese facial features and I know they tend to be smaller but even so it seems too small.

    Could she be younger and if so what do I need to do? I'm very worried about her.
     

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  2. lymorelynn

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    512g is very small for a 9 week old kitten. What colour are her eyes? Kittens are born with blue eyes which should start to change colour at around 6 weeks - which is more the sort of age I would expect for a kitten that size. Even Siamese types should weigh around 900g at 9 weeks.
    Whatever her age you will need to feed her as much as she will eat of a good quality food
     
  3. chillminx

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    She's very cute @RottieMummy but I agree she looks a bit small for 9 weeks old, more like 7 weeks I'd say. Even for 7 weeks old 512 grams would be quite low.

    You can build her up and help her gain weight by feeding her small meals frequently, as many as 6 meals a day if she will have them. Use a high protein wet food for kittens. Leave her plenty of food at night too, so she can help herself when she wants to.

    You can also give her a little kitten milk, but it's worth noting if she has much milk it will fill her up and stop her eating her food. She is better on meat protein for getting the nourishment she needs to build strong bones and muscles. She may be willing to eat cooked chicken or turkey, for one of her daily meals which will give her some good protein.

    As she is so tiny and away from her mum and siblings ensure she is kept warm when the heating is off at night. It is still quite chilly at night in parts of the UK. Cats use up a lot of calories keeping themselves warm. For young kittens I always put an electric oil filled radiator on in their room at night, enough for background heat, as well as providing igloo beds located off the floor.
     
  4. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    IMG_0766.JPG Here a photo of her eyes. They are blue but not typical young kitten blue and look like they are changing. Her mum was blue eyed. Dad unknown.
     
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  5. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    Should we take her to the out of hours vet and get kitten replacement milk? She's been cuddled on me the whole time she's been home so she's warm and I will pop her with a radiator tonight also. She's sleeping in my room.

    Her mum had been neutered already so we didn't think for a second she could be so young as I didn't think vets would neuter when cats are still feeding kittens. Maybe I'm wrong.

    I don't understand why the owner would lie either, it wasn't like we were in any rush to take her home. I feel so mean on her, I wouldn't have taken her if I knew. I just thought that it was because she had Asian breeds in her until I weighed her.
     
  6. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    A photo to show the size of her better.

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  7. Ceiling Kitty

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    She could just be a small 9 weeks. Is she eating 'normal' food?

    It's okay to neuter cats when they are nursing.
     
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  8. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    Yes she's eating normal food absolutely fine, she's barely stopped eating!
     
  9. lymorelynn

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    I think she may just be small. If she is eating solid food well I wouldn't worry about kitten replacement milk but if you haven't already done so I'd get the vet to check her over for any problems
     
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  10. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    Yes she will be getting a vet check and first vaccination tomorrow. It was more if she needed urgent attention.
     
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  11. spotty cats

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    Even at 9 weeks she's too young to be away from her mum :(

    i wouldn't vaccinate a 500gm kitten, but do get a vet check for her.
     
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  12. OrientalSlave

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    BYBs lie to get the kittens away quickly, before they start eating huge amounts of food and needing huge amounts of litter. This is why in my view there are only two good sources of kittens - breeders who register, vaccinate and worm (and not all of those), and rescues.
     
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    So mum had Siamese points, to be blue-eyed. However one of my pedigree Oriental girls (almost the same thing) is nearer 5kg than 4. According to my records my kittens are 500g at about 7 weeks, not 9, and at 9 weeks are over 700g.

    It's good she is eating, feed her as much as she will eat of good-quality food. There are lots of excellent grain- and sugar-free foods on Zooplus, but switch gradually rather than suddenly. Also she will need worming, the vet can help you there or you can get Panacur paste at Pets@Home. I prefer to use kitten milbemax which she is just big enough for, it's 1/2 a tiny pill whereas Panacur is over 3 days and they are getting pretty wise by the 3rd day. I ended up wearing it!
     
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    Whatever her true age, I'm glad she is eating well. She needs lots of good quality food now, wet not dry, and of course lots and lots of cuddles & play!

    Hope the vet visit today goes well, let us know how she progresses! And of course post plenty of photos for us; she's adorable...
     
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  15. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    She's being fed Lily's kitchen food mixed in with whiskers at the moment. She was in whiskars already so I'm slowly switching her to what my other cat eats.

    Vet check is this afternoon, I suspect they won't vaccinate her as she's so small but at least she gets a check.

    Yes mum was a colourpoint cat, they said she was Siamese cross and had typical Siamese features and was small.

    I feel really bad, we've always gone for rescue cats or pedigrees from a proper breeder but she was a spur of the moment decision. My partner lost her mum recently and has had a really hard time and then saw this little girl advertised and fell in love. I suppose I just wanted her to have the distraction and their isn't many kittens around at the moment.

    The breeder seemed lovely. She explained it's an accidental litter as mum escaped. Mum had already been neutered to prevent reoccurrence and I saw the scar confirming that. The kittens were not being sold for silly amounts, she showed me vet invoices proving they had been checked wormed and flea treated. Everything seemed to check out.

    The only thing she hadn't done is vaccinations and she explianed that was as she couldn't afford to vaccinate them all and had already lost loads of money on raising the litter.
     
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  16. Empeewee

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    When we adopted our cat, we were told she was 9 weeks old. The vets confirmed she was closer to 5-6 weeks old. However, though she was tiny and too young, she was resilient and she caught up to a size quickly with regular milk and also semi solid food. As there is no way you can really take her back to her mother, the best thing to do is care for her stringently and as best as you can.
     
  17. Babyshoes

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    If mum was very small, perhaps she is genuinely just small for her age, or perhaps they made a mistake with the date (unlikely but possible if no one thought to mark it on the calendar). It sounds like it was probably a genuine 'oops' litter in other respects, especially if mum was already spayed to prevent a repeat! Not ideal of course, but not the worst way to acquire a kitten either.
     
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  18. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    Ok so went to the vets with Kira as she has now been named. The vet weighed her and she was 420 grams so my scales must not be as accurate as theirs. He thought she was around 5 weeks old and said she needs to go back with her mother.

    She hasn't been vaccinated as she's too small (will this be an issue as my other cat goes outdoors).

    I was really upset hearing this and immediately contacted the breeder asking to return her. The breeder is adamant she is 9 weeks old. She has sent me photos of vet invoices.

    One for the kittens being wormed, flea treated and checked over. This is dated 27/03 making the kittens 6 weeks old by breeders dates and 2 weeks old by my vets estimates. She also sent me an invoice for mum cats neutering which is dated 15/03 making kittens 4 weeks old by breeders dates and only just born by my vets estimates.

    She said she will take the kitten back if I don't want her (which I do) but said mum is no longer feeding them anyway. She is also going to ring her vet and see if they will speak to me as she says she called the vet for advice when mum was in labour and that it may be recorded on their system.

    Would a vet neuter a cat that had just given birth? And would 2 week old kittens be flea treated and worked? It is looking like she's telling the truth and she is just a small kitten but I'm thinking it might be best for her to go back for a few more weeks anyway?

    On another note she is absolutely LOVING her new toys!

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    If you think you can cope with socialising her and you want to keep her, I cannot see that it is in her best interest to go back to her 'breeder.'
     
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  20. RottieMummy

    RottieMummy Run free at the bridge my darling x

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    Thank you. She's been no trouble at all. I think the vet has based his estimation on her size alone and not taken into account her behaviour or development. Still trying to work out her coat length. I though definitely shorthaired as mum was shorthaired but she's looking more and more fluffy each day. Either way I don't mind we are well and truely in love with her now!

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