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Things have changed so much!

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by jen24, May 12, 2010.


  1. jen24

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    I was just talking to hubby (TobyK9) about how things were regarding dogs when we were little and things have changed so much.

    There were so many kids films with dogs being the childs best friend, sleeping in the childs room, bathing with the children, playing unsupervised in the house and out in fields ect ect

    So why now when you say you have a dog do people say i hope you dont leave it alone with your kids? i know its never wise to leave kids alone with dogs, thats not what im asking. it just seems instead of dog being "mans best friend", dog is now "unsafe and dangerous".

    i know there have been alot of dog attacks but there were years ago too. so why is it so different to own a dog now?!

    even kids films dont have dogs with children anymore. the dogs are always with adults now.

    If treated and cared for correctly, ALL DOGS can be safe and be a pleasure to have!!!

    Sorry just having a mini rant lol

    (im typing in colour so i dont look like a moody mare lol)
     
  2. tafwoc

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    I was going to say, the pink makes me think your in a happy mood. lol. Yeh i totally understand where you are coming from though. It's a sad reality :(
     
  3. jen24

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    lol, i promise im not moody. i do find it very sad though.:) x
     
  4. Bex190

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    I know what you mean.

    The amount of people that grab their kids and hide them away until my on-lead and behaving dogs are past amazes me, especially when they did it when Otto was still a small cute puppy!

    The anti-dog brigade seems to be growing and getting a bigger influence all the time.
     
  5. jen24

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    They are, i completely agree.

    When i walked toby the other day a woman and her kids walked past so we stopped and toby sat while waiting for them to get past and the woman looked so shocked that he sat still! it was as though she was expecting him to go for her or her child. its so so silly.
     
  6. rona

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    Owning a Goldie, it's not something I notice.
    Most people seem to still think certain breeds are ok to allow their children to approach.
     
  7. jen24

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    Its not just peoples views on our own dogs im talking about it, its all dogs in general. things seem to have changed from the days where dogs were in films with kids to today where they are not.

    if that makes sense lol
     
  8. rona

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    It's the nanny state syndrome again isn't it.
    No risks can be taken with anything EVER!!!!!
    You just have to look at the health and safety at work to realise how ridiculous things have got :rolleyes:
     
  9. tafwoc

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    I KNOW!!! this country is so stupid. I have seen parents that freak out if their kids are climbing trees :rolleyes:
     
  10. jen24

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    i used to love climbing trees :D

    was good at climbing, never very good at getting down again lol :lol:
     
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    For me, this is what I think...

    There are so many people using and owning dogs for the wrong reasons, they have them to look hard, to make money, to fight etc. The media would have us believe that it's the dogs as a whole (breed) that is bad because when this kind of thing first started happening it was the small few breeds being used in this way... pit bull type which could include a staffie or even english bull terrier. These days, as was shown on tv not so long ago (can't remember the name of the programme... dogs as weapons ??) other breeds are also being used... rottweiler, dogue de bordeaux, doberman, akita etc... breeds that may have been used as guards. In the right hands, all of these breeds can be easily trained in a good and positive way and can be part of a loving family environment.

    Then there's other types of people, the ones who have small dogs that look cute but they don't really have the time to spend with them or choose not to (more likely the case) These dogs, who are left untrained and unsocialised can become temperamental over time, even snappy... thus giving small dogs an unwarranted bad reputation :( but is it the dogs fault or the useless lazy owner who can't be bothered ?

    Most people and kids don't have the respect for dogs that they should... the kind of respect we were taught many moons ago. In a strange kind of twisted way, I can understand a responsible person saying 'I hope you don't leave the kids alone with the dogs' and this is the reason...

    Last year my daughter had a few friends over for a sleepover. At that time I had 3 lhasa's, all adult and fully trained. As you can imagine, 6 girls all playing and allowed to stay up late were getting a little hyper. For most of the night the dogs had free roam of the house. A couple of the girls kept cuddling the dogs and trying to pick them up, often ignoring my requests to leave the dogs alone as they were sleeping at the time. One girl in particular was determined to do as she pleased and when I saw that my oldest dog had had enough and tried to walk to his little corner for some peace I put my foot down and bluntly told this girl enough was enough ! Did she listen ? No, she started to follow Benji, laughing and saying she only wanted a cuddle (for the umpteenth time) so I grabbed all of the dogs and put them in the kitchen for their own safety. My dogs are all well trained and behaved but surely they all have a breaking point... something this annoying little kid was determined to find :rolleyes:

    By midnight my poochies had been locked out of the main room for over 2 hours and when my OH rang, I had to have a full on rant about the evening's activities. The following morning, this particular girl showed that she'd overheard my ranting and was a bit sheepish about it. I sat her down and explained what the possible consequences could have been and why it's so important to give dogs respect :001_cool: not to mention me :rolleyes:

    Had this girls parents ever warned her off strange dogs ? Highly unlikely. If I hadn't been there, I have no doubt that with her constant grabbing, she would have been nipped or at least warned and sorry if anyone disagrees with this but it would have been her fault and hers alone.
     
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    Me too. i can remember sitting stuck in a tree crying until my mum came and found me :eek:
     
  13. TobyK9

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    Yeah, it's the same with dog to dog contact too, I've noticed certain breeds are more accepted to play with other peoples dogs than other breeds.
     
  14. Phoenix&Charlie'sMum

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    I totally understand where you are coming from.

    When my whippet X was a pup, people with smaller dogs (bearing in mind Phoenix was barely 12" tall) would scoop up their dogs and shout at Phoenix to go away!

    But then on the other side, I find there are alot more irresponsible owners nowadays for example people who know their dogs to bite let them run around a park, off-lead without a muzzle.
     
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    i used to spend all my time with our dog as a kid, He only nipped me once as a puppy, i was about 18months old and bit him back on the ear apprently lol never did it again (me or the dog!)

    Mine play with the dogs, they help train they are part of our family and never shut away but they have been told to leave them alone if they get up and move away as they want space and to leave them alone if they are in the crate as its their space.

    People tend to assume our halti and canny-collars are muzzles so avoid us, and sometimes zeb will bark at people he knows as a hello (he used to do it at strangers when he wanted to be stroked lol but we managed to train this out of as people would poop themselves) people cross the road, pull children away e.t.c
     
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    Probably with reason...that is if the kids are anything like I was.

    I got stuck up a tree once, dad had to come rescue me! :D
     
  17. sequeena

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    I get a lot of the 'anti dog brigade' when out with Luna. I can't blame them though to be honest, if I saw Luna's ugly mug coming towards me I'd sh*t a brick too :lol:
     
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  18. jen24

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    lol :lol: Luna is gorgeous.
     
  19. catz4m8z

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    There seems to be a knee jerk reaction to some breeds thanks to media hype and yet less basic knowledge about how to treat a dog.:confused:
    I tend to suffer more from lack of knowledge and am constantly amazed at how dense some people are. I am used to little kids and adults stroking my dogs without asking first despite how stupid that is and some people go even further, worst case was a man who picked Hannah up and thrust her directly into his toddlers pushchair!!:eek:
    Was he aware that she is a cross of the 2 MOST likely to bite breeds? erm....course not, she is cute, fluffy and therefore must be safe!!:rolleyes:
     
  20. JSR

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    Society in whole has changed. You can't let a 7 year old go down the shops anymore. You can't leave your kids out playing on the streets. You can't let the kids go to the park and pick them up an hour later. All stuff I did as a kid with no thought from my parents that someone might snatch me, molest me or god forbid be stabbed by a child of a similar age.

    Some people right now are generally pretty disgusting and horrible to be around and the situation regarding dogs is mostly due to those types.
     
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