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There'll be no Flossie puppies

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by Burrowzig, Aug 10, 2019.


  1. Burrowzig

    Burrowzig PetForums VIP

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    Her hip scores were not good enough, I expected and hoped for no more than 9 given her parents' scores, but she came in with 12.
    I'm both disappointed that it's the end of the line (all other in Flossie's litter now neutered) and relieved that I won't have to go through rearing a litter again.
     
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    Oh I'm sorry :( That has to be so disappointing.

    At the same time, huge kudos to you for both the difficult decision, and also posting about it so that others can see what truly responsible, ethical, care deeply for the dogs breeding looks like.
     
  3. Sarah H

    Sarah H Grand Empress of the Universe

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    That's a shame, but you made the choice for the right reasons.
    Also shows how important it is to hip score offspring even if the parents both had good hip scores.
     
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    That's a shame but its good you are being responsible and checking these things out.
     
  5. Burrowzig

    Burrowzig PetForums VIP

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    It seems odd to me that Flossie's 12 is higher than either parent. Kite was 6, the sire was 11. But there are so many factors in hip development, just how the genes fall together. I don't know - didn't think to ask the vet as I was quite shocked - if it might have been better if I'd had her scored younger.
    The result was the assessment of a specialist vet, not BVA panel scores. I think their £68 fee would be better put towards a spay op.
     
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    Sorry to hear this :(
     
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    That sounds a good price though. I think my farm vets (which had been super cheap) have revised their prices.

    I have booked tilly in for spaying 14th oct and asked them to x ray her hips whilst she is under. Not score. Just to look and see - if they are ok i will chance shifting to a cheaper pet insurer.

    So they have quoted £207 for the spay. And with the 2 xrays it will be 'round about £300' so 93 quid for the xrays.
     
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    Sad news for you that this will be the end of your Line:(
     
  9. Burrowzig

    Burrowzig PetForums VIP

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    I wish. The £68 is what the BVA charge to officially assess hip X-rays, and when Kite was done it was £50. The x ray plates were £148 including sedation, and the keyhole spay I'm now saving for (as well as replacing that seeping radiator and some work on the car) will be around £430.
     
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    Ah - not so good for you but it makes me feel better.

    If it's any consolation, my car has had £1400 worth of work on it over may/june. Only just getting back on our feet now.

    Our vet doesnt offer keyhole spay, i did look into it briefly as it does sound good - will be interesting to compare recovery times
     
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    My standard vet doesn't either, but Kite and Fly went to a vet about 35 miles away who's been doing them for over 10 years now. Floss will go there. The recovery time is much better and neither had any apparent pain (unlike Ziggy who had the conventional spay). Of course it's still major surgery, and you have to careful afterwards but they are back to normal within about 4 days. Of course you keep them on lead for longer!
     
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    There is a vet about 30 miles from me that does keyhole - i might ask about the price. You have got me thinking now:rolleyes:
     
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    It would be interesting to see the difference. My vet does a tiny incision and they are certainly back to normal within 3 or 4 days so not sure if I would feel it worth the extra cost and hassle. I have many bitches spayed and seen many spayed and not had pain relief. Toffee was the first one that showed any sign of pain for about 3 days.
     
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    Flippin' heck @Blitz - how can my 2 favourite pf posters not put across the same point of view?!

    This will set me dithering again as i feel you are both equally practical and make decisions similar to my own.


    Btw @Blitz - how do you think my 207 quid quote for a traditional bitch spay would compare to the vet you use?

    Im not hot footing it up to Orkney - i just wondered if my vet has raised their prices and arent as competitive as they once were
     
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    Another difference is that, as the uterus is left in, they are supposed to be less prone to incontinence in later life. There are 2 ports, each about 3-4mm across.
    I was given Tramadol to give Kite and Fly if necessary, but neither needed it. Ziggy go the lot when she broke her toe!
     
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    I think i will need to look into this a bit further. Luckily, Tilly is in season just now so i have got time to fully consider things and still get her spayed in October.
     
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    Lily had keyhole and was back to being bonkers 2 hours after we picked her up. Tiny incision of course I have only had her spayed so can't compare but I'm glad we went that way.
     
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    Thanks @Boxer123 . I will definitely enquire about it.
     
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    It's a shame, but as others have already said (and as you know yourself), it's the right thing to do.

    Thank you for sharing.
     
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  20. winterrose

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    Oh no! :( As others have said, posting this just makes it even more evident how responsible you are as a breeder! You've totally made the right choice! At least you can enjoy more agility with Flossie :)
     
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