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bite your tongue and not say a word.

Happened today.

Woman i work with has recently got a kitten, the 4th to her clan and says thats more then enough now, which is fine so we got talking cats and i asked how she came across this new little girl

"same guy i got my other young cat off" she said [not in the same words though]

"Oh, so is she a pedigree?" i asked

"No, she's a crossbreed with a maine coon, i actually got a cat first a little while ago and then his mums sisters cat got pregnant, so i got one of them to keep him company so he dont bother the older ones"

It took alot for me not to say "So your funding a byb, cos im sure no one would want thier pedigree maine coon breeding with a regular cat, so you probably just have a kitten with longer hair and have been told its part maine coon"

I just had to go "awwww cute"

But damn it was hard not too....two sister cats pregnant within a short while of eachother, im sorry but it seemed to coincedental to me. I felt like saying "show me a picture and then i'll tell you if its part maine coon!" just cos its got longer fur, doesnt make it part maine coon, she said it "has the tail of a maine coon"

She loves her cats, but she doesnt know alot about them, which is fine cos until i joined this forum i wasnt so up on cat breeds myself, i always tried to put our cats into a breed name, thinking every cat had a breed, but since have learnt and can now see through things alot more.
 

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ok please excuse my naivety but why is this so bad if you know you're getting a cross breed?
Because she had funded someone who breeds moggies, these cats wont of had the start in life that pedgrees do.

I own both moggy and pedigree and so i cant say alot, but have learnt on here the difference it makes with how a cat is treated, how long it should stay with mum, how health tests work etc etc you get all this with pedigrees

But moggies, in most cases are just "accidental" litters with any Tom [dick or harry] in the neighbour hood, who could have any number of dieseases which could pass onto mum or the kittens, they'll be taken away to a new home at 8 weeks [most common anyway] when they should stay til 13 weeks for real social skills and they wont have been tested for any illnesses etc

With a pedigree [a good pedigree breeder btw] you'll get a healthy, well socialised and loving cat with a fantastic temperament.

With a moggy its more pot luck what you'll get, we've been lucky with our moggies and altho our first one came from a pet shop, she's 18 now and im only 26 aha all other moggies have been rescues and so we havent funded this not so great way of breeding.

PLUS....back to original question, she may of been told it was part maine coon when it may just be a long haired moggy, i never asked what she paid but i know she paid for it.
 

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byb's also buy pedigree cats from a registered breeder as pet homes then decide to make some cash and breed from that cat purchased as a pet.
people dont understand there are reasons why such a kitten is sold as pet only....could be a contract within the pedigree line, the kitten is not to the breed standard and these people do not know the pedigree line to know if there are any genetic faults.

if anybody dared breed from a kitten off me purchased as a pet only there would be hell to pay.
byb's dont care about cats they just see them as a quick buck which makes me mad especially when good breeders have rules to abide by and this costs us alot of money perfecting the breed.
 

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Yes, it would.
As long as there are thousands of cats in rescues and shelters that cannot find a home, it is criminal to unleash even more moggies on the world, more than half of which will also end up at a shelter or rescue, and the other half usurp the place one of the unlucky rescue cats could have had.

Moreover, moggies have not been tested for diseases or genetic flaws, so they may be passing on all kinds of genetic or infectious diseases.

I have 8 moggies, all of which originally came from a rescue, and of the 8 cats I have lost, I got 5 from a previous owner, and 3 from a rescue, though 5 originally came from a rescue, 1 from a farm, 1 from a back yard breeder, and 1 was an accidental litter of a moggy too young to be spayed, so FAR too young to have kittens.

She was knocked up by a purebred Persian stud that managed to escape from a back yard breeder and slipped into the little mother cat's house. She was still little more than a baby, herself, didn't know how to care for the babies and they all died, or so they thought. When the owner was burying them, one little paw slightly moved, and they pulled Precious, barely alive, out from between her dead siblings. She was rubbed warm and bottle fed, and miraculously survived.
 

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There are degrees in back yard breeding, though.
Some people have a moggy and want to have a single litter, just for the experience.
This still holds all the risks of genetic and infectious diseases, but at least the cats are loved and cared for, though most owners don't have the knowledge to do the right thing if the pregnancy or birth doesn't go smoothly, and sometimes, it can go terribly wrong, so the cat and kittens may well die as a result of their ignorance.

But the REAL back yard breeders are the ones that have one or more cats, not as dearly beloved pets, but with the sole intention of breeding as many litters as possible and sell them at a profit.

True breeders of purebred cats do not make a profit, breeding is their hobby, their passion, and it costs them a lot more money than they will ever make in selling the kittens. They breed cats for the love of the breed, not for the money, and they have all the skills of a feline midwife and a geneticist.

A true breeder will vet the buyers of their kittens more thoroughly than a victorian girl's father would an aspiring bridegroom.
 
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