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The right to die

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Nina, Jul 31, 2009.


  1. Nina

    Nina PetForums VIP

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    Just wondered what your thoughts are on this ruling

    BBC NEWS | Health | MS woman wins right-to-die fight

    How many times have we heard the vet give us those final words 'the kindest thing is to let them go'.

    I have always said that no pet of mine would suffer needlessly. Is it not the same for humans!
     
  2. cherrie_b

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    I can't understand why we shouldn't have the right to die?!?! I am glad she won her battle! :D
     
  3. Inca's Mum

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    I think there's nothing wrong with it, because we live our lives how we want, so why not die how we want?
     
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  4. Nonnie

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    It should be personal choice and no one elses.

    No one should have the right to dictate what another does with their life. No one should have the right to make someone endure years or pain, suffering and degragation.

    If someone wishes to end their life, they should be able to, for whatever reason. Afterall, if affects no one but themselves, and a few around them. People can be better prepared, do what they need to, say what they need to, and then be able to die with dignity and in a setting suitable, and with the people they love.
     
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    I think it should be personel choice why should a human suffer needlessly .we wouldnt put our pets throught it . I think if a person is able to say what they want to do with there life it should be there choice.
     
  6. sequeena

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    If you are terminally ill and are in a lot of pain I do not see any reason why you should not be allowed to die when you want. It's disgusting that people have to travel out of the country, LEAVE their family and die in a strange place.

    To referr back to another thread (without causing any arguments ;)) why is one woman allowed to keep having kids continuously yet someone with terminal cancer or MS is not allowed to choose when they want to die?

    I am very pleased that she won her battle. If my mother or anyone I loved wanted to do the same I would support them fully! :yesnod:
     
  7. dobermummy

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    It definitely is a very personal thing. I think everyone should have the right to die when suffering. I would never let any of my pets suffer needlessly so why would I want my family and friends to suffer.

    The only problem is where to draw the line? It is such a hard one and very emotional and one that will never be solved easily.
     
  8. Classyellie

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    Well said :)
     
  9. Sampuppy

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    I am really pleased to see that there has been some progress on this issue at last!!!! However - I truly believe that euthanasia should be on offer in this country to people with terminal illnesses and it should be treated very much like some funerals are - a celebration of life and not death. If either myself or any member of my family were suffering from a terminal illness then it would be comforting to know that a 'comfortable, painless' end could be achieved with loved ones there to witness the 'passing of pain'.
     
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    excellent post.....xx
     
  11. Sampuppy

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    Bumping this up because I think it's a really good topic and it will be interesting to see more replies and opinions - hope nobody minds?? :)
     
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  12. LostGirl

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    what nonnie said pretty much sums it for me

    I wouldnt want to suffer and i wouldnt want to put my family through having to look after me But i dont know if i would be brave enough to go through it myself if you know what i mean
     
  13. bird

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    I know that theres a lot of pro-lifers out there but there has to be a limit as to what is acceptable for the terminaly ill. Just last week hubs ex wifes sister in law died of cancer. The last 2 mths of her life were no life. She was on a cafita drip fed could not move or speak, is that a life? I dont think so, there was more cruelty in making her live. Personaly I have made a living will that if anything was to happen that for want of a better word would leave me cabbaged then I do not want any lifesaving assistance. My father chose to die rather than undergo an operation to remove brain tumors as the outlook was 50/50 on him being ok afterwards and as far as he was concerned he would rather die than risk the alternative of living life cabbaged. I am glad that this right has finally been acknowledged, however I do believe that it should only be a right for those that are terminal.
     
  14. borderer

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    dont think about it might when time comes:D
     
  15. staflove

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    Hi Nina, i think good on her there is only one thing to say really they will let a huam suffer but they wont let a animal if you decide this on a straight head we should all be able to do it watching some one die every day and get skinier is crule :(
     
  16. HighlandQuine

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    I believe that everyone should have the right to end their life as and when they see fit.

    I'm interested in this idea of drawing the line that mumof5 mentioned, I'm not sure I know what it means. Do you mean some kind of categorisation about if you've got like, for example, a certain diagnosis, that you could have the option of ending your life or do you mean in relation to assisted sucicide or what?

    Not trying to start anything, I'm just curious! :)
     
  17. Sampuppy

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    Can't speak for anyone else obviously, but for me there would have to be a sort of line - for example - it would have to be a diagnosed (and by more than one specialist) terminal condition before I think it would be appropriate to have assisted suicide. I think that if it were any less than that, then there would be a lot of misunderstanding and abuse of the 'rule' and that anyone could choose to 'leave' rather than take another way out??? This may lead to people with mental health problems having a 'way out' rather than treatment for their condition??? My opinion is hard to explain but hope this makes some sort of sense??
     
  18. dobermummy

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    Its a really hard one, I agree that everyone should have the right to die especially when they have a terminal illness but then their are other things for example someone who was paralysed from the waist down and they feel their life isn't worth living. Given time and dedication they could have a really good life but they might not see that to start with, or a multiple amputee.

    Also one of the other grey areas would be mental illnesses. I suffer from bi polar disorder (manic depressive) and many times I have been serious about wanting to die, and if this sort of option was available I would have taken it long ago. Would the choice then be taken from me because of my illness? And why should my rights be taken away?



    To be honest I don't know what I think is totally right or wrong.
     
  19. Nicci

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    I think anyone that has a terminal illness has the right to die with dignity as they personally see fit. There is nothing worse than watching someone close to you die and not being able to do a thing about it.

    Would I be so brave I wonder ? I don't care what anyone says, you have to be brave to even consider doing that. If it were me that would depend on how old my children were if they were youngsters, I'd probably want to hang on in there as long as I could without causing any undue distress to them :(

    What a brave lady.
     
  20. Acacia86

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    The world is full of pushing for ''human rights'' ..............

    Yet it is illegal to die in humanely?? I have seen many my own family members die in pain, unfortunately. Many of whom would have chosen to pass before the excruitiating pain took hold, and their family members to have to see them like that and feel so utterly helpless.

    We can make the decision to end an animals life in his/her best interests but we can't even make that serious decision for our own selves?

    I am so happy for this woman, although it came to late for some other poor people.

    As much as i have always agreed for this to be available, i have also strongly felt that there has to extremely strict rules too.
     
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