Hello I am really hoping to get some help with a stray we have been looking after for a couple of months now. She was very bloated when she turned up. About a month ago we took her to the vets and found no chip and they felt her belly and told us she wasn't pregnant. They advised us to just wait and see if she goes in heat and take her back if she does. This morning however my partner woke me up to tell me there were 4 kittens under our bed!! 3 of them were dead unfortunately I have rang the same vets who have just told us to give her a safe space food litter close by etc but I have no idea what I'm doing. If we'd have known then we'd have definitely prepared for this I am very worried as I have not yet seen the kitten nurse. The trouble is we have no idea when she actually gave birth. I didn't see her yesterday until about 7 and her belly had gone down. so it could have even been the night before. (I thought she had maybe been a bit constipated all this time, the vet had told us it must be fat distribution??) Up to that point her belly was just bloated at the sides not on the front. I have no idea how to tell if this kitten is lethargic, dehydrated or fine. It isn't squeaking much, and does move a little bit but I dont know if mum cat is even producing milk. her nipples seem slightly bigger than my other cats but the actual bit around it (the boob i guess) seems flat. I tried to move them both into a box with blankets just by the bed but mum cat took the baby back so whats more is that its very difficult to keep an eye on them. As we have 2 other cats, if we'd have known she was pregnant we would have found someone to look after her until she did give birth and the kittens were old enough and we'd have took her back but now its too late. I worry that moving her to a new home now would be too stressful so we will try to make this work as best as possible. If we do find we need to take them to the vet could someone please advise how is it best to carry them. its difficult to get her in the carrier anyway and i worry the kitten would just slide around in it whilst we're in the car. Any other help would be much appreciated. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.