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Some Advice on a new puppy :)

Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by GeorgeBick, Apr 3, 2011.


  1. GeorgeBick

    GeorgeBick PetForums Junior

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    I recently brought a new puppy called poppy. She is an adorable 8 week old Shih-Tzu and i am keen to get her properly house trained. I have surfed the web and took in various training techniques but have a massive milestone stopping me from training her!

    Unlike the steryotypical puppy, poppy is sleeping constantly druing the day! this makes toilet training her very difficult as when I take her outside she is just instantlly laying down on the grass!

    I am feeding her on JamesWellbeloved dog food three times per day on the reomended ammount for her age weight and size. She has had her first round of jabs, microchip, a dosage of advocate and was giving the parvo vaccine.

    I guess my question is:

    1) Can anyone explain her lack of energy
    2) Is the lack of energy normal after 3 days of owning her
    3) How do you toilet train a dog that just lays down when you take her out!

    Many Thanks
    George- Pack leader
     
  2. Dogless

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    It may be that the lack of energy is simply down to her being a bit overwhelmed, but does sound a little unusual - I would pop her to the vets for a thorough check as soon as you can.

    As for the toilet training; loads of threads on here in 'Training and Behaviour' if you do a search.

    Oh, and congratulations on your new addition :).
     
  3. Helbo

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    It is usual for puppies to sleep a lot, but unusual for them to lie down in the grass without playing first.

    Get Poppy to the vets for a thorough check - better safe than sorry
     
  4. GeorgeBick

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    Thanks for the advice :) ... Before her first round of vaccinations the vet did a quick examination (listening to her heart ect.) but if you believe she needs a full examination I will ring them back :)
     
  5. Argent

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    When did she get vaccinated? I found Oscar got a bit under the weather after his, and after worming when he was little (also shih tzu). They are generally really chilled out as small puppies, til they get the strength to really start bounding around. She may be scared, or as the others have said, she may be feeling ill, there could be something underlying. Is she eating and drinking ok? And are you feeding her the same food as she had at the breeder's?
     
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    I would just explain to them what you have to us on here (it is much easier to do it in 'real life' than over an internet forum where we are all just guessing what might be happening). Best of luck :)

    Edited with an afterthought; have you discussed it with the breeder at all? They may be able to advise too.
     
  7. Helbo

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    If your puppy is lying down in the grass every time you take her out for the past 3 days, then the vet needs to be told.

    I'd rather be laughed at by the vet knowing I did the right thing getting my dog checked out, than not take my dog to the vet and regret it later.
     
  8. GeorgeBick

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    @Argent: She was vaccinated on friday and that is also the day they gave her the advocate. She is eating her James Wellbeloved fine. At the breeders they were feeding her a very bad dog food so I was advised by the vet to not feed her it and try the JamesWellbeloved. :)

    @Dogless: No I haven't contacted the breeder yet as I wanted to see if this was natural before seeming to be an 'over protective' owner ;)... As you have made me aware this is 'unusual' I will dig out the breeders number and give her a call. :)
     
  9. GeorgeBick

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    @Helbo: Yes I will be calling the vet now thanks to everyones advice. I will post back with their advice when it becoems avalible. :)
     
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  11. Argent

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    I'd either ring the vets or take her there, she could be queasy from the injection, she could be feeling ill from the sudden food change - even if the food she was on before was sh*t, you should still do it gradually or you can upset her sensitive little tum.
    Either way, she doesn't sound well at all. Was she active and perky when you got her from the breeder?
     
  12. GeorgeBick

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    @Sled dog hotel: Poppy doen't have any of the symptoms that you have advised me about except from her being unenergetic and uninterested in her surroundings. Also I don't believe this is a reaction to her treatment as she was like this the day prior to her jabs ect. She has gone to the toilet normally (infact I stopped halfway through writing this because she went on the training mat) and her poo shows no signs of diarrhea. I haven't been telling her off after accidents just picking her up and taking her where i want her to pee. Thanks for the advice and I will moitor her and watch out for any developing symptoms. :)
     
  13. GeorgeBick

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    @Argent: She wasnt really energetic with the breeder. She was being kept with one other Shis-Tzu pup and they were playing well together and the breeder had kids what I took as a good sign so she had obviously socialised.
     
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    Using training mats in my experience can confuse them and take longer to train. As it can give confusing messages that its ok to go in the house. By taking them out and giving them the constant opportunity to only do it outside and the rewarding when they do they seem to get the idea much quicker. It is a lot of work and a chore initially for the first couple of weeks but it does usually pay off.

    Pups being very quiet lethaargic and not interested in their surroundings can be a sign they are unwell as I said, If she was like this before her jabs, it could be possible that she could be incubating something illness wise. Did you tell the vet how she has been? Pups shouldnt be vaccinated if they are showing any symptoms, Also a vaccination and being bombarded with the chemicals of the spot on and microchipping is a lot for a pup in the way of their immature imunne system coping. See how she goes but if there is no improvment and she doesnt seem any livelier or interested, it might be an idea to just get the vet to check, and especially important if she does show any further signs.
     
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    Hmm...has she been wormed at all? Does her stomach feel normal and squishy rather than firm? She might not be at the point where she's pooping them out but sometimes pups can have a slight case of worms that brings them down...
    The only other thing I can think of is a tummy bug or something underlying that might be brought to light by a blood test... I wish I could help more.
     
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    I agree with the others - get her checked by a vet. If she's not ill, maybe she is just still adjusting and will perk up in a few days.

    And we need pictures!!! :D
     
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    So glad you came on her to ask for advice-that what we are all here for-because we love our pets
    Agree with all the other posts-hope the visit to the vet can sort out any problems
    Please let us know how she goes on
    from Maureen
     
  18. GeorgeBick

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    @ Sledge dog hotel: I did tell the vet and he told me this was usual for puppies settling in :/. My house has a 'lean' In which i keep her cage, food and water bowl and a few toys. I have put the training mat which is treated with an attractant near the backdoor and she is becoming aquainted with it. My plan is to move this into the garden in the near future. I will asses the situation as I understand this my be related to her treatment and then think of a course of action tomorrow. :)
     
  19. GeorgeBick

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    Heres a pic :D
     
  20. GeorgeBick

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    REPORT:

    Hi everyone I phoned the vet and booked an appointment for tomorrow but about 30mins ago the strangest thing happened! Poppy burst into life and I can safley say she has found her feet :) ... It seems her lethargicness was a mixture of nerves and her injections as all of your advice suggested :)

    I would like to raise a point that this post has given me:

    Do I use training pads or go straight to the garden? :confused:

    Thanks for all your help and I wish you and all your k9 friends the best :)

    George + poppy :smile:
     
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