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Socialisation and whining

Discussion in 'Dog Training and Behaviour' started by Issie., Aug 3, 2018.


  1. Issie.

    Issie. PetForums Junior

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    Had our labradoodle puppy for almost 3 days now and in most ways she is settling in perfectly. She’s very confident around the house, definitely chewy and has the occasional “zoomies” but is very responsive and seemingly happy. The times we have taken her out in our arms for socialisation she’s basically constantly whined when introduced to any new person with one exception. Our breeder said she was very cuddly and good with handling so we’re unsure how to fix this? Also we made sure it was controlled and not over the top and tried to reward her when she was quiet. Just a bit worried
     
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    It's impossible to guess why your pup is whining - it may be she simply wants to get down and join in or it may be that she feels a little anxious but I do know that we have to be careful with the 'holding the pup in our arms whilst other people touch then and talk to them' as some puppies find it very stressful as they have no say in the matter. I am sure it was controlled as you say but it can sometime have the opposite effect and make a pup nervous around people.

    Socialisation is about your puppy observing and getting used to the world and your puppy does not need to be petted (or even meet) strangers to do this. I discouraged strangers from touching or leaning over my puppy from day one. They can see and hear them from a little way away. Only family and friends petted my pups when they were young......

    We'd love to see a photo of your new pup :) There are also some great puppy threads on here with good advice.

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    Congratulations on your new pup .
    Could you explain what exactly happens when she meets people? Is it many people Do you let them stroke her?
    I expect she is still unsettled from leaving her mum and siblings . Shes only been in your home for three days and even just going outside in the big wide world can be overwhelming for a pup . Perhaps she needs to get used to your home and the outside first without getting too up close and personal with strangers.
     
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    I’d also say that in 3 days she will still be very unsettled from leaving mum, siblings and everything she has ever known and can’t be that used to you yet.

    Tbh I would probably given her a week to get used to her new home and family before exposing her to the big wide World.

    Pups are very easily overwhelmed by too much attention from giant strangers on top of all the other stimuli outside.

    I’d slow it all down a bit.
     
  5. Issie.

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    Thanks. Yes I agree that she was probably overwhelmed and I intend to take things slower next time but we only saw people we knew and there was max 2 near her at once. First time puppy owner so it’s so confusing with all these different opinions on socialisation but I think we’ll move forward slowly like you said. - sometimes less is more I suppose.
     
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    We met friends one at a time and they were very gentle and comforting but she started to whine and wouldn’t stop. She didn’t act as if she was nervous of them but I think now maybe she was too overwhelmed by the whole situation so I’ll be slowing down the process. It is like she totally changes when she leaves the house as she is very confident indoors and in the garden. I guess it’s something that will take more time than we anticipated. Thanks for the reply!
     
  7. Issie.

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    I agree with slowing it down from now on. Our reasoning was that she is now nearly 10 weeks and we’ve been told by many people about this key socialisation time where experiencing as much as possible is key although these particular interactions were very small scale and controlled. I now think she was probably just overwhelmed. Thanks for the reply!
     
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    Actually, for the reasons everyone else has given, this isn't true - It's a very common belief but actually quality is better than quantity.
     
  9. Issie.

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    I’d agree -but It’s what we’d been told by numerous experienced people and recommended books. So it’s hard to know what to believe.
     
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    Socialisation is vitally important ..I think we are all agreeing on that but in my opinion it is definitely about quality (a few good positive interactions with a calm human or adult dog) over quantity (the hands of strangers or a free play puppy class!). That's all. I am sure you're doing fine. But as your puppy whined it may be an idea to keep an eye on why ...

    From The Victoria Stillwell website - Re Socialising A Puppy--
    "Can I overwhelm my puppy with too many social experiences?
    Positive socialization teaches important social skills, but overwhelming a puppy with too many social experiences too quickly may have the opposite effect and create a dog that hates being touched and fears interaction. Therefore it is important to be sensitive to a puppy’s limitations, because sensitivity can make the difference between an adaptable dog that copes well in all situations and one that finds it hard to function in society."


    J
     
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  11. Issie.

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    Yes, thank you. Today we met 2 next door neighbours calmly Indoors, she walked up to them and had a sniff and a bit of a stroke and then fell asleep. No whining.
     
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