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Snake on Snake Aggression

Discussion in 'Snakes' started by Serinity Reis, Jul 11, 2018.


  1. Serinity Reis

    Serinity Reis PetForums Newbie

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    Hi! I have 2 Trans Pecos rat snakes. One is male and one is female. They are both very friendly and have always been fed seperatly. But, have been housed in the same tank for over 4 years and have never had a problem until recently... Yesterday, the bigger snake all of a sudden started acting aggressive to the other smaller snake. I would stop it every time the big one seemed to pick on the little one, but now it's just too much. It's almost like the big one is trying to assert dominance or breed, but like I said this has never happened before. Now my smaller snake has bite/puncture marks all over him/her. Does anyone know what could have caused this to happen or if I will have to seperate them permanatley?
    Thank you!

    Both of my snakes look like the attached photo.
     

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    Lurcherlad PetForums VIP

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    No knowledge, but I’d keep them separate from now on just in case.
     
  3. Acidic Angel

    Acidic Angel Your ego does not surpass your pets wellbeing

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    Rat Snakes are a solitary species and should be kept separately.

    That yours have now started fighting further shows they should not be kept together.

    Separate and keep separate unless you plan on breeding, which is done in a controlled way and supervised.
     
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    I'm confused - How do U know the snakes are opp-sex, if U don't know which is which sex?
    If they've been sexed, the larger / older would be one definite sex, correct?

    & as above, they are solitary animals - they don't have a hierarchy. They encounter one another to breed / mate, & go separate ways, after.


    This is one of the times that I really wish "pecking order" & "dominance" had never entered the lexicon of pet-owners, but had stayed in the vocabulary of behaviorists, psych-researchers, & other pros, who understand the definition & use of the jargon. :(
    CM / DW has a lot to answer for, with his nonstop use of 'dominant' this & that! :mad: . :Muted

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  5. Serinity Reis

    Serinity Reis PetForums Newbie

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    Thanks guys! I just wonder why they did so well together for so long until now. And the reason why I don't know which one is which is because they look identical, but when I got them they told me one was male and one was female.
    Thanks again!
     
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    who knows? -- I'd say U were very lucky, all in all. :)
    Hopefully the smaller snake will recover - I'd take that one to be seen by a vet who treats exotics, snakes need specialist care - they get sick slowly, & take FOREVER to heal or recover.

    Infections are a very serious risk, as they lie on the "floor" of their cages so much. U cannot use the same drugs for snakes & other herps as for mammals.

    - terry

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  7. Serinity Reis

    Serinity Reis PetForums Newbie

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    I will, thank you so much! I'll probably take them both (in seperate boxes of course) and make sure the 'mean' one is healthy and isn't lashing out because he/she is sick.
    Have a wonderful day!
     
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    Serinity Reis PetForums Newbie

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    Hey Everyone,
    Since I got some great responses last time, I figured I would try this again
    So I still have my same 2 snakes, both Trans Pecos rats, one male one female. I have seperated them since they were fighting, and they have been doing fine. Last night however, I figured out which one was female. She laid an egg in the drier side of her water dish. I have never tried to breed my snakes, or hibernated them, and I know they are a desert species, so now what do I do? I have hatched wild snakes before, 4 red rats because I accidentally disturbed where they were laid. I haven't checked to see if the egg is fertile yet, because I don't want to disturb it, but I thiyght it was unusual for snakes to just lay 1.
    If any breeders have any advice, please let me know! Maybe that's why they were 'fighting'? But like I said I have never done anything to get them to breed and 'breeding season' would have been 3 months ago.

    Thanks!!
     
  9. Acidic Angel

    Acidic Angel Your ego does not surpass your pets wellbeing

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    You need to remove the egg, the mum won't incubate it and the enclosure will be too dry to incubate it. If the egg is fertile you will need to set up an incubator for it and any possible others.

    The fighting may, indeed, have been breeding. It doesn't matter when breeding season is "officially", if the snakes feel ready to breed(or, more likely, the male gets his way) they will.

    She may have more to come, don't disturb her or handle her, just keep an eye on her from a distance. One egg is very unlikely to be the end of it.
     
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    Serinity Reis PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you for the advice! She has laid 2 eggs, so now I just have to wait and see!
     
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