[Jess2308]

Now the outdoor show season has started I am already getting annoyed by people smoking around the rings I was at WELKS two days this weekend and it happened around both of my breed rings AND the stakes rings.

Now, i know that smoking outside is allowed but what do people think of smoking around a ring with dogs around? I personally think it is rude and get very annoyed with smoke being blown at my dogs. Im very careful to ensure my house is kept smoke free, my ex who was a smoker had to go to the end of the garden to smoke and was not allowed to smoke around the dogs I just dont like the idea of my precious dogs inhaling other peoples smoke, i wouldnt allow it to happen to my kids and my dogs are my babies!!

I actually moved my crate with the pugs in it on Friday as someone was stood right next to it with their smoke blowing directly into my crates

I personally would like to see designated areas away from the rings for smoking. Im sure that wouldnt go down very well with the smokers, but i think its a small price to pay for making sure that dogs arent inhaling smoke.

I would be interested to hear other peoples opinions on this... :thumbup:

 

[cutekiaro1]

im a smoker and would rather there be certain spots to go. I dont really like walking down the street smoking incase someone is a non smoker

 

[Jess2308]

im a smoker and would rather there be certain spots to go. I dont really like walking down the street smoking incase someone is a non smoker

What a refreshing point of view!! :thumbup:

I dont tend to mind people smoking around me so much, as long as its somewhere I can move away.

 

[Lucylewis0]

I am also a smoker but I would never smoke near other peoples dogs or anywhere near rings. I don't let smoke blow over my own dogs let alone other people dogs I tend to find a nice quiet spot to squeeze in a sneeky ciggy

 

[babycham2002]

I am also a smoker but would not smoke at a show.
It is rude and inconsiderate.

 

[kaisa624]

I don't let anyone smoke in my car, and when relatives come around, they have to smoke in the garden away from the dog. I would prefer designated smoking areas at shows, as it's as toxic to dogs as it is humans.

 

[dimkaz]

smoking in the open air./...i don't see anything wrong with it...
blowing smoke towards other people (and, if you will, dogs) that's a tad rude...
but open air is well, open air... so no problem there...

having said that, i am a smoker, though i was quite involved in the campaign to ban smoking from public (enclosed) space...

having common sense to avoid smoking if it may cause harm is a great act of civilisation....but pointing at...smoking while outside....i guess is an act of unjustified intolerance...that's my opinion though...


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[katiefranke]

Its nice to see that quite a few smokers actually agree!!

I don't smoke and don't have a problem with people smoking as long as they don't do it right by me if I cant move away - and I think this is only common courtesy to be honest.

And I think that dog show counts as one of those places really where you cant really move away anywhere...so yes, I think that there should be designated places at shows for smoking...or at the very least, no smoking by the rings/enclosures/holding areas etc...

 

[charmedlassie88]

I just don't see why its the non smokers that have to avoid it. Smoking is a choice and a pointless, proven unhealthy one too so if one must then they should be the ones that have to find somewhere plus if its at a dog show its not like the dog has the choice to move away from the smoke so its just unfair.

I know that sounds harsh but the smell makes me really queasy and I'm sick of people looking at me like I'm the rudest person ever for asking them to move!

 

[EmCHammer]

I am a non smoker but it doesn't bother me people smoking outside - my honest opinion is its not against the law in the open air so if people don't like it can move somewhere else?

Its a bit different if someone is blowing smoke at you etc and people don't smoke in my car, as it makes it smell - OH is allowed as long as he has the window open.

 

[montys-mama]

My pup doesnt go to shows but I'm pretty sure he really dislikes the smell of cigarettes as when people smoke in the garden given the choice he keeps his distance and if you go near him he walks away from you.
Furthermore my mum had a client over the other day who is a chainsmoker and STINKS, when she was cooing and cuddling him he got very unsettled which for the friendly springer he is was very very unlike him!

So not only is it not good for the dogs and the humans, I reckon it could put them off!

 

[nic101]

im a non smoker and i think there should be designated areas imho....

I dont want myself or dog inhailing smoke and people should respect that.

sorry to al smokers but its a selfish habit -one which i dont want to be apart of!

 

[Blitz]

smoking in the open air./...i don't see anything wrong with it...
blowing smoke towards other people (and, if you will, dogs) that's a tad rude...
but open air is well, open air... so no problem there...

having said that, i am a smoker, though i was quite involved in the campaign to ban smoking from public (enclosed) space...

having common sense to avoid smoking if it may cause harm is a great act of civilisation....but pointing at...smoking while outside....i guess is an act of unjustified intolerance...that's my opinion though...


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I am unjustifiably intolerant then. I can smell cigarette smoke from quite a distance and the smell is horrible, gives me sore eyes and a horrible taste in my mouth. I object to being subjected to someone elses disgusting habits. I dont doubt someone would complain if I were to fart in public, whether inside or outside.
And the very worst is people that apparently dont want their own *** smoke in their faces so hold the cigarettes behind them in the street stinking out anyone walking up behind them.
Definitely should be banned at any public place outside just as much as inside, as you cant get away from it.

 

[Jess2308]

I am a non smoker but it doesn't bother me people smoking outside - my honest opinion is its not against the law in the open air so if people don't like it can move somewhere else?

Its a bit different if someone is blowing smoke at you etc and people don't smoke in my car, as it makes it smell - OH is allowed as long as he has the window open.

In general yes, but this thread is specifically about dog shows where space is often very hard to find and its a bit more difficult moving dog + crate + show kit + chairs compared to smoker just walking away from the rings

 

[sequeena]

I think it's careless to smoke around dogs full stop. I smoke but don't around mine as the smoke doesn't stop being dangerous once it hits your dog

 

[Spellweaver]

but pointing at...smoking while outside....i guess is an act of unjustified intolerance...that's my opinion though...


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I am unjustifiably intolerant then. .

Me too Blitz. As people have already pointed out, space around a dog ring is limited - but even if it were not, having to inhale other's smoke or move away from where you want to be is just not fair. There is no other antisocial habit that would be tolerated like non-smokers are expected to tolerate smokers. If someone were drunk at the side of the ring, for example, unable to stand up and falling over dogs and crates, would people still think it was fair to for the innocent party to move away?

 

[Jess2308]

Me too Blitz. As people have already pointed out, space around a dog ring is limited - but even if it were not, having to inhale other's smoke or move away from where you want to be is just not fair. There is no other antisocial habit that would be tolerated like non-smokers are expected to tolerate smokers. If someone were drunk at the side of the ring, for example, unable to stand up and falling over dogs and crates, would people still think it was fair to for the innocent party to move away?

I've seen that happen before (naming no names :lol: ) and he was um... escorted from the showground.

 

[basi]

I hate it when people are smoking round the rings not just because of the smoke, it is also dangerous as a dog walking past can a cigarette in the face.

 

[EmCHammer]

I think if I was a smoker, or with OH when he does in crowded spaces then we would normally go off somewere a bit quieter for a '*** break' as such.

And if someone asked us to move then it wouldn't bother me unless they were being snotty in which case I wouldn't move - politeness goes along way with me.

Was up at the hospital the other day and just outside the main entrance were about 10 people in various states of illness, in wheelchairs, plaster casts, bandages etc, jim-jams all having a *** break right outside the door - looked very odd.

 

[Nicky10]

That is inconsiderate in my opinion but some smokers just don't care about anyone else as long as they get their fix. Notice I said SOME most don't. I don't see why non-smokers should have to move just because some rude addict needs their fix