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Discussion in 'Dog Chat' started by emilylp, Aug 9, 2009.


  1. emilylp

    emilylp PetForums VIP

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    This was my original first choice dog , and once again im drawn to them , i wont lie , it was the fact there have been numerous dog attacks publizied that put me off, not the fear of them atacking my family as we have no children ect ect and i would never leave them around a small child , but just the thought of what people would think if he was off a lead in a field ect ect, but im totally inlove with them still! M mum and dad saw a little puppy one today called roxy and they rang me up and said even they were inlove with them.

    I know its usually irespnsible owners but theres some people saying , theres more agression towards animals and humans than any other dog bla bla bla

    but then i thought , there one of the most popular kept dogs and theres reali not that manny dog attacks at all by them

    just wanted to ask you alls for your opinion. it wouldnt just be me walking him, my dad would come to or my mum ect ect but im all set to properly train him!
     
  2. Savahl

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    They are no more prone to biting people than any other dog - in fact they are probably the best dog for a family with children! They are all about people! Bad press comes from idiots owning them and not training them/socialising.

    They are brilliant dogs, with brilliant personalities, and big soppy lumps.


    you will get people who are cautious of them, but its their loss. I see lots of sbt's off lead where buster is walked, and 9/10 they are perfect. The 1/10 isnt aggression, just overly boisterous ;)
     
  3. DevilDogz

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    Any dog can be aggressive imo not matter what the breed is..At the end of the day its down to the training and the socalization the dog has...They are a very popular breed indeed and it seems to be they fall in to the wrong hand so often and for all the wrong reason's..But in the right home with the right training ect..they make wonderful pets!

    If you are willing to give the dog everything it needs witch you would have to do with any breed anyway then i couldnt see a problem..Who cares what people think of you because the dog you own..
     
  4. Cat_Crazy

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    I used to own a SBT until he passed away last year.

    He was the most wonderful dog ever!!
    Fantastic with my young children and loved my cats also.

    They are very loyal and loving dogs but they need to be trained correctly.

    Too many people see them as a status symbol and want vicious looking dogs to make them look good, which drives me mad :mad:

    I have attached a few pictures of Jackson so you can see just what a wonderful personality he had.
     

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  5. Nicky09

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    If you're willing to train and socialise them they're fantastic dogs and famous for their love of people especially children. It's the idiots that get them as status symbols and don't bother with the training or even worse train them to be aggressive that give them a bad name
     
  6. Johnderondon

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    The SBT is one of only two breeds described in the KC's online standards as 'good with children'. The breed is often nick-named the 'Nanny dog'.

    Biddable and people focused they are a doddle to train. Their fighting ancestry has left the breed with pre-disposition towards dog-aggression. That is to say it is, on average, easier (by accident or design) to make an SBT dog-aggresive than many other breeds which makes proper socialisation doubly important. Similarly their history has left the breed with a pre-disposition away from human-aggression. That is to say that it is, on average, harder to make an SBT human-aggressive than many other breeds making them an exceptionally reliable dog around people.

    It is true that SBTs and their crooses have been implicated in several regretable and, sometimes, tragic incidents but partly you are right that this is a function of the breed's huge popularity and it is also a category error - irresponsible owners have more incidents and, currently, the SBT is popular among many irresponsible owners.
     
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  7. Oblada

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    Very well put!

    Indeed SBT are very safe with people and usually very easy to train.

    However any responsible owner needs to be aware that they may not tolerate other dogs very well.
    Its down to training (socialisation is very important at a very early age) and the individual dog (and thus down to breeding as well).

    As SBTs are quite powerful dogs despite their size the owner needs to be vigilant; SBTs are originally bred for gameness; they are courageous, are not easily stopped by pain and will not give up easily; all of those qualities mean that an owner needs to always remain vigilant so as not to let a fight happen or to stop it quickly; any dog can fight, fights between dogs are daily occurrences and often quite minor tiffs, but with SBT they can more easily develop in serious quarrels causing significant injuries.
    That to me is the only "flaw" of the SBT and its not really a flaw as such, its just part of their character!

    The last thing I would say is that they need (like many other breeds) sufficient mental and physical stimulation as boredom can soon become destructive behaviour (and a destructive SBT will cause more damage in less time than a destructive miniature pincher for instance ;))

    xx
     
  8. rona

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    Be careful where you get your puppy, make sure the breeder breeds for temperament and go and enjoy your dog :)
     
  9. DevilDogz

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    and has had all the relevant health tests for the breed!;)
     
  10. Johnderondon

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    I would normally encourage people to look to rescue first but with SBT I will make an exception. I won't encourage. I urge...I plead...I beg...

    There are thousands of SBTs in rescue right now. Today. Thousands. Among them there are pups and, even better, assessed adults known to be of good temperament.

    There is no breed that needs rescue like the SBT. This is not a breed that is in crisis. This is a breed beyond crisis. It is dying.

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    I know people say they are lovely dogs, and a man up the road from me has just had a rescue who is very well behaved. But Amber has been attacked by two of them, and I just don't feel I would trust one, I know I'm been irrational but I just can't help how I feel, when ever I see one I cross over the road with or withour Amber.
     
  12. Nonnie

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    I own two and i do the same. Its nothing to do with the dog, but i dont trust that the owners have trained or socialised them properly.

    Sadly, many SBT owners dont bother with basic training, and enjoy having a dog straining at the end of a leash, and seem to derive pleasure from intimidating other people and other dogs.

    Responsible SBT owners are out numbered 100-1.
     
  13. CheekoAndCo

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    I'm the same with them. I just don't trust them. Even more so after a poodle down the street got attacked within an inch of her life by a staffie type dog. The owner had to kick and punch it to get his poodle out of it's mouth because she was hanging like a rag. The vets had no hope for her but she made it. There's 2 across the street from us and if I hear or see them I cross the street because they bark and growl at everything and anything. Not many that live here get walked but I know if they did I would cross the street..
     
  14. emilylp

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    well most people say rottweilers are lovely dogs , but id be wary of them more then a staffy...


    just cuz theres a staffy or rottwieler doesnt mean there gonna savage your dogs..
     
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    I'm another one that has cause to be wary of sbt's, Ailsa ( my heart dog ) was killed by one a couple of years ago, it was a dog that she knew very well, one that she saw every week and one that has a very knowledgeable staffie owner, we have since learnt that most of the dogs from the same litter have attacked other dogs and one even as a pup attacked it's own mother. Please as others have said be very very careful where you go to get your pup/dog.
    Just to ad I do like staffies I just won't let my dogs anywhere near one, I'm not prepared to take a chance with their lives.

    Terri
     
  16. emilylp

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    but u cud get one from a kennel club thing, cost you 100s and it still could attack another dog , its all about socialization and training
     
  17. DevilDogz

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    I think its sad people feel they have to move away from them..I can honestly say every single staffy i have meet has been a right little darling and i have seen a fair few there very popular around here..They even play with our little cresties over the feild! ;)

    How do you know that a little poodle isnt going to lundge at your dog..i bet people dont cross the road when the see a poodle coming towards them!
     
  18. emilylp

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    exactly DD

    ive watched loads on animal planet lots of litttle dogs go for everything and the ones who you dont expect , any dog can do it and i think its bad to jsut pinpoint SBT its whats making them be confused with bad dogs
     
  19. DevilDogz

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    The response i will get will be "SBT can do alot more damage!" :rolleyes:
     
  20. CheekoAndCo

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    Poodles are rare here so maybe that's why people don't cross the road.. Staffies on the other hand are agressive here so people just don't trust them. Can I ask why you picked a poodle as an example? Alot of people when they come to our house tell us they thought poodles were snappy and horrible...
     
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