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Right age to let them go??

Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by congener329, Jun 30, 2009.


  1. congener329

    congener329 PetForums Newbie

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    I was directed to this group by another animal lover, so thought I would try here first to clarify a couple of points.

    As a bit of background history: Just over 6 weeks ago, we found 5 adorable kittens in a lady's shed. The kittens and the mom cat (now called Jess) were all successfully caught and brought to the safety of my own summerhouse (that being a much quieter environment than the house!). Jess has done really well, and all kittens have developed really well.

    During the early weeks Jess was of course with the kittens at all times. But since the kittens have been more mobile Jess was with them less and less. Over the past week, she basically now spends the entire time hidden behind furniture. She only comes out for food when she is absolutely sure that no one is about - and assuming the kittens havent already cleared her bowl as well as their own!

    The kittens are just coming upto 7 weeks old, and there appears to be no/very little contact between Jess/kittens now.

    I was initially lead to believe that the kittens can be rehomed at 8 weeks, and that is when Jess needs to pay a visit to the vet to be spayed. however, someone has since stated that it should be 12 weeks minimum.

    So initially my question is - given the lack of interaction between Jess and the kittens now, is it ok to rehome them at 8 weeks (new homes have been found for them all)

    Also, as Jess will need to be rehomed after she has recovered from her op...other than Cats Protection League (which doesnt look a hopeful option at the moment) does anyone know of any welfare centres in West Midlands that would provide Jess with a new loving home, with people who would have the patience to build up her trust?
     
  2. lymorelynn

    lymorelynn UN Peacekeeper in training
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    Hi. Lots of moggy kittens are homed at 8 weeks and if mum is no longer interested in them I can't see that it would do any harm. Pedigree kittens are usually kept with mum until they have had their innoculations so do not leave until about 13 weeks old.
    Sorry I can't help with a charity to take Jess but you could try to advertise her privately. You seem to have done a great job so far in caring for Jess and her babies. I hope she can be found a peaceful, loving home and learn to trust people again
     
  3. mypets

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    mine go at 7-8 weeks by then mums had enough....
     
  4. Britt Hammershøi

    Britt Hammershøi PetForums Newbie

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    It is not legal in Denmark to sell kittens until they are 12 weeks ... It is a pity for the kitten, but also for those who bought it. Any creature that is being born, have some innate need. Need to serve the purpose of creating a healthy individual lives. It may be tangible needs such as food and drink, but it also deals with more social needs, such as contact needs, needs feeding, development and training of the hunting instinct, and not least: the development of autonomy. It takes some time for these things to be developed and the developing preference is for the kitten's mother and siblings.

    Those of us who have bred dogs that have probably all noticed the kitten development stages. How they are very young are completely dependent on the mother look after them, how they are quite unhappy if they come away from their siblings - and then go through their adolescence when they begin to explore the world. Only in the small, since they dare to take the whole house hold - and those that are allowed, are now looking beyond. Progressively develop into independent individuals who will be able to manage to survive on their own.

    When the kittens are about. 10 to 12 weeks old, they begin to choose their own residence. They may, for example. found to lie alone in a chair and sleep. They still hold much of the flock, but also keeps a once in a while to get peace and be a little alone. When a kitten is reached there is, in principle, ready to move home. Of course, not all kittens just slow to develop, but around 12 weeks, most come with, and we want without the risk of psychological trauma could move them.

    Move them until they are 12 weeks may be the consequence of the lack of development could lead to behavioral difficulties. These may prove in many ways:

    Kitten can become timid, shy and evt.aggressiv - or it may be desperately trying to find a mother substitute.
    Sutter on wool, earlobe or otherwise attempt to have his feeding needs. In the worst cases, as much on its own tail, the maimed.
    Raw Compatibility - also at a later stage in the cat's life - in most cases traced back to the kitten was taken too early from his mother and siblings.
    Is excessive contact applicant must sleep on pillow with the owner at night moan if you go. This dependence misunderstand some believe it is the cat's love for the new owner. But it is not! It shows a lack of socialization and error development of independence. In reality, the kitten frustrated and it will take a long time before it has the peace of mind and becomes a real cat.

    So I hope that you just want to wait the last weeks before sending kittens in their new home.
     
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  5. Taylorbaby

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    Moggies normally go about 8 weeks unless your friend is doing injections at 9 & 12 weeks its pretty poinltess keeping them until 12 weeks then lettting them go, Unless there was a problem. Mine had lost interested in mum at about 7 weeks she wouldnt let them suckle and would tease them at about 8 weeks! lol! :D

    I thought that rescues kittens had inejections doen before going??
     
  6. mypets

    mypets PetForums Senior

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    They went at 7-8 weeks b4 i started to rescue...this person isnt obv doing injections, so 7-8 weeks would be fine...
     
  7. congener329

    congener329 PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you all for your feedback, I really appreciate it.

    I am so glad that its ok to let them go at 8 weeks as I had a horrible feeling I was going to have to make some new parents/children a tad upset!!!

    TBH, I really couldnt afford to organise injections etc for them all (having been told the costs involved) although of course the 2 that I shall keep will be done as soon as they are old enough. I am not a rescue centre, merely a cat lover who couldnt see the kittens left to the elements, so bought them home to make sure they were safe and rehomed.

    I have really enjoyed having them though, its odd when people comment on how small they are when to me they are huge given they were only about 2 days old when we found them:) both hubby and I have commented we would like to do cat rescue, but we both work long hours and wouldnt really have the time to committ to it as needed...but I know what our retirement days may entail :eek:
     
  8. lauren001

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    I agree just because many people let moggie kittens go early doesn't make it correct.
    These kittens are not vaccinated at all you are putting their lives in danger and Britt is correct too kittens need time to be socialised properly. Letting them go as early as possible without vaccination is a BYB dream not something that should be advocated by a proper breeder.
     
  9. congener329

    congener329 PetForums Newbie

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    Lauren

    Whilst I appreciate what you are saying - I am not a breeder. I am just an every day person that took in 5 abandoned stray kittens.

    I am not asking for any money for the kittens so this venture has not been in a bid to make money. The costs have already mounted up with the food, kitten milk, toys etc - which I have no problem with, but I could not afford all the vets fees for vaccination too - and I wouldnt qualify for help from PDSA or similar places.

    My kids play with the kittens regularly so they are socialised. The mother cat has very little to do with them now.
     
  10. lauren001

    lauren001 PetForums VIP

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    I realise this is a rescue case, but by having these kittens you need to act like a breeder and setting kittens out in the world unvaccinated is not really in their best interests
    Speak to your local CP they may be able to take them on, vaccinate them and find good homes for them.
     
  11. Tinks

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    Hi, I was browing through here, I used to post regularly last year. I just wanted to say that last summer we had exactly the same thing happen to us, we found abandoned kittens and we took them in. They were covered in lice and ticks and were hissing and spitting at us when we first found them. However we took them to the vets and they were found to be healthy and with treatment for the ticks etc (frontline!) and absolutely loads of love and care and socialising by myself and my kids we had them kittens with the best loving little personalities you could want from a cat by the age of 8 weeks! We made contact with the CP but they told me we were doing as good a job as they would and said if we were happy then we should carry on the good work. We were advised by our vet that rehoming at 8 weeks was ideal and as long as we were happy with the homes they were going to all would be fine. Clearly if you have loved a stray kitten enough to give the care it needs at such a young age you would only give them to the best loving homes you could find anyway! I say well done you, good job done....you wont regret it and you will always remember it. We kept one of the little babies we found, she just turned a year old .... she is the most loving we cat have!! (we have 5). WELL DONE!! :wink5:
     
  12. Taylorbaby

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    Well done you! sounds like you did a fantastic job! :D
     
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