Resource Guarding

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  1. smokeybear

    smokeybear PetForums VIP

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    I can recommend book on aggression, none I know of that are specifically only to do with male to male aggression

    Brenda Aloff Aggression in Dogs
    Jean Donaldson Fight! A practical guide to the treatment of dog to dog aggression
    Patricia B McConnell & Karen B London Feisty Fido, Help for the lead Aggressive Dog
     
  2. Pupcakes

    Pupcakes Lady of The Terrors.

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    Thank you :) I have the second (not read it yet, currently in my bag ready to read!) And will check out the rest.
     
  3. Jan Semon

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    Hi, my young rescue dog has never shown signs of guarding until the last week when I took on another rescue dog as a foster. She steals her toys and
    anything she likes the look of and takes it to her bed. When my daughter or
    I try to remove the items she growls and snaps. I managed to get the item
    from her by bribing her out of the room with a treat , but today I did not
    realise she had a toy on her bed and when the other dogs went near her she
    snapped very nastily. I told her off and managed to get the toy from her when she was not looking and then separated her from the others. I have
    two other dogs who she has never displayed this behaviour with it is only
    since the new foster arrived. She came from abroad and was starving and
    very scared when she was found. She is very loving normally but this new
    behaviour is scary.
     
  4. FEJA JUODAS

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    this is a new term to me....but interesting...it was mentioned ref a post on raw feeding when i said my dogs are more aggressive when i give them raw food....

    now maybe some of these puzzling to me behaviours of my two dogs are in this category !!! views welcome !

    1. the bed. there is a ritual every night where the older female top dog i call her is used to sleeping with me but my male younger dog likes to challenge this by getting up on the bed himself before her if he can and not moving even growling at the other dog if she comes near him !

    after a lot of petting for about ten minutes he gets off the bed and takes his usual position in the doorway for the night

    i have no problem passing him he will move for me but not for my other dog who avoids going near him and waits til the coast is clear to pass by

    2. eating...both dogs are fierce if the other dog tries to eat from their dish

    they know their own dishes but each will try and STEAL from the others dish if the other dog moves off

    3. toys bones etc

    both dogs are obsessed with trying to take the other dogs bone or toy

    if i give them separate own toys they ignore them and kick off again barking and lunging to get the other dogs toy off them !

    sigh

    i often end the squabbling by yelling at them and taking all toys away from them

    the female usually keeps the toy whatever it is and the male just stands facing her barking madly

    lol

    3 stroking both seek attention if i stroke one dog so i have to stroke them both

    neither dog growls at me for taking toys or food off them i add

    other dogs well none often met but no chance of sharing food with them toys they are ok about

    ps both dogs i add thinking about original poster here, both did challenge me over toys when young pups

    i reacted to it in fear a little but then lost my temper and subdued the dog shouting at it to make it clear i was able to take what i wanted from them...and i only had to do it about two times per dog for it to be never a problem again...

    it is frightening when growled at and i was lucky they were puppies when i dealt with that issue i add ! i would not be so happy to do that now big adults !
     
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    thaventen PetForums Newbie

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    Thank you for a well written post, it really made me think. D1 Spec Lug Nuts
     
  6. wendym71

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    Interesting reading. I have a 14 week old Border Collie who has suddenly become aggressive and bitey when I try to take things out of his mouth that he shouldn't have, like rubbish in the streets. I guess this is a form of resource guarding and bribing him with treats doesn't work. Any other ideas are welcome!
     
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    I have an american bulldog, (female) and a male cat, i had the cat first.
    They are fine with eachother apart from when there's food, my dog has resource guarding issue's, she'll lunge and snap at my cat, i have brought a mussel so i can correct this without putting my cat in danger.
    I have read loads of books, posted question on loads of other site's, looked at video's on the internet, and ask my vet, but none of the methods seem to work, does any one know how to correct this , i really don't want to give my dog up, as i know this is my fault , and i would feel really bad letting my dog go, and feel as i have failed her.
    please can someone help. thanks.
    (she dosen't have the same problem with my other dog, or people around food)
     
  8. Presley

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    The book "Mine" is great but it can be very complicated to understand. Maybe not for trainers but for laymen.
     
  9. ouesi

    ouesi Wag More Bark Less

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    Thanks for posting interesting read
     
  11. Cassyj

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    I think my 16wk Springer is starting to guard his food he's growled at my cat when he got to close and at me when I picked his Kong up to see if he had anything left in it any tips on nipping this in the bud
     
  12. ouesi

    ouesi Wag More Bark Less

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    Have you had a chance to read through the articles linked in this thread? That's where I would start.
    And keep the cat away from him when he's eating, he deserves to eat in peace. Cats are bad about attempting suicide by dog that way, and they don't seem to heed warnings very well....
     
  13. nikki123

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    Does anyone have any advise on only resource guarding with only certain people in the family? My dog doesn't do this it with me but will to my mum and is even worse with my dad?
     
  14. Girlymonkey

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    We have a 10 month old mongrel who we rehomed at 6 months. He has shown no signs of guarding until the last few weeks. He's not guarding from us - I just tested it by taking a pigs ear from him (then added cream cheese to it and returned it to him). He's absolutely fine with this. However he has been starting to guard with other dogs. We walk him in an area where many dogs are walked and other owners give treats regularly. Recently, he has started sitting in front of other owners for a treat, and if their own dog comes he snaps at them (no growling or 'real' biting, more of a warning), and tonight he snapped at another dog who approached him when he was chewing a stick.
    All of the articles I have read are about multi dog households, where you are in control of both dogs in a controlled environment. Does anyone know of an article or have suggestions of how to deal with this with other dogs before it gets more serious?
     
  15. ouesi

    ouesi Wag More Bark Less

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    If he were mine I would stop these interactions where he has an opportunity to guard. If he has a toy or a stick, keep other dogs away from him. If owners are handing out treats, call him away and keep him out of there.
     
  16. Girlymonkey

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    Is this teaching him not to guard? To my mind that just makes him less socialised. There are sticks and dogs and treats everywhere in our Park. I feel with such a young dog there should be a way of training him rather than not letting him socialise?
     
  17. ouesi

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    It’s removing his opportunity to practice undesirable behavior. The more he gets to practice snapping at other dogs, the better he will get at it.
    By removing the trigger and the triggering situations, you lessen his anxieties about the whole thing and hopefully will also learn that you will intervene so that he doesn’t have to, this too should help build his confidence.
    It is perfectly normal for dogs to guard resources from other dogs, especially those they don’t share a home with.
     
  18. Girlymonkey

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    Hi,
    Just a follow on question from this topic. Pup is now 13 months old. We have mostly dealt with the guarding issue above - we insisted that if treats are being given, both dogs get them at the same time. This seems to work.
    However, just recently he has started guarding toys (not just his own, but stealing them from other dogs and guarding). He has also taken a dislike to a few spaniels and similar sized black dogs! He doesn't growl or have agressive body language, he just snaps when they get close (but not in a playful way).
    It seems like he is enjoying bullying rather than him being scared etc.
    Any suggestions?
     
  19. Rafa

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    Well, you were advised by Ouesi not to allow him to be in a situation where treats are being dished out, but you continued and now, his behaviour has worsened.

    It sounds to me as though he's a dog who doesn't enjoy socialising, hence his habit of warning other dogs away.

    I wouldn't allow him to be in a position where he can steal toys from other dogs and guard them, that's an absolute recipe for a fight.

    As Ouesi said, the more he practises these behaviours, the better he becomes at them. I would revamp his walks to more one on one with you, some training, some play, but encouraging him to focus on you rather than other dogs.
     
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  20. Girlymonkey

    Girlymonkey PetForums Newbie

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    So I maybe didn't explain fully the situation. We did stop him getting treats for a while and then gradually reintroduced them with selected dogs that we know well.
    We have now stopped him playing with dogs who have toys, but I feel we need to get a solution that doesn't just keep him away but a way to teach him to actually play nicely. Contrary to your summary, he loves playing with other dogs.
    The spaniel thing started when he was playing with a small, black spaniel and it repeatedly tried to hump his face. He got, understandably, annoyed. He went through the appropriate warnings and then snapped at him. Since then he has reacted to spaniels and small black dogs. His body doesn't tense up, or do any other aggressive type signs.
    I walk him on a lead anyway, so I am now keeping him away from dogs that I think might be a problem, but this is not a long-term solution. Sometimes the dogs approach him, and I want him to be a well adjusted dog!