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Ragdoll with attitude

Discussion in 'Cat Chat' started by buffie, Jun 17, 2010.


  1. buffie

    buffie Mentored by Meeko

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    Does any one out there have experience of predatory play aggression in kittens.I put a thread on a week or so ago about my kitten who was biting. I have had the opinion of a pet behaviourist and that is her diagnosis.She said to keep arms covered and when he attacked to stand or sit still and make no noise and he would realise that there was no fun to be had and would eventually stop.She also said any kind of reaction ie.blowing on him squealing removing him would only make him worse.Ihave tried this for a week and if anything he is worse,he now thinks he can bite till his jaws ache.This is not just playful nipping it is realy violent.Any thoughts.
     
  2. ChinaBlue

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    How old was the kitten when you got him? Did you see him with his litter mates. I was just wondering how well socialised he was. Have you spoken to his breeder about this - they may be able to shed some light on his behaviour or make some suggestions. I did wonder if he was teething (a little early perhaps) and he just wants to chew!
     
  3. The Twins

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    There was a similar thread on here a while ago and in the end someone offered to 'foster' said violent kitten with a mother and a litter who would teach him some manners and that the mother cat was very good at putting cats in their place so to speak. It ended up working very well i think. If you could find someone who is willing to do this for you i think it could work well...
     
  4. buffie

    buffie Mentored by Meeko

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    Thanks for your comments. China Blue thanks for your email,Twins thanks for your suggestion the problem with another cat and kittens fostering him is that he could do some serious damage to the kittens.We are going to revert back to just saying a firm NO when he bites instead of sitting like a numpty letting him have his merry way,may work may not but I will sort him if it kills me.Its one nil to him at the moment ,I will settle for a draw.
     
  5. Aurelia

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    Have you tried a water squirter? One of the ones you can get from garden centres for misting your plants.

    Obviously because he is actually on you he would be too close for a jet of water, but I have a feeling he would react better to a misting anyway. You wont need to do it for too long, he should get the message after a few days.
     
  6. buffie

    buffie Mentored by Meeko

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    Thanks Aurelia have tried water trouble is he likes water will play in the kitchen sink for ages with the tap on it would appear he is so focused on biting that he will react to nothing.
     
  7. Aurelia

    Aurelia PetForums VIP

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    Have you actually tried misting him in the face while he's doing it though? My girl also like to play in water, but she does not like the water squirter one bit. Usually I only have to pick it up for her to know she shouldn't be doing whatever it is she is doing. I don't have to actually use it very often.
     
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    I do this with my dogs so not sure if it will work with your cat but i put small stones into a empty can of coke or simlar, and then tape the hole up. It makes quite a noise and i shake or throw the can near the dogs and say no at the same time, and it really is good for dogs.I have never tried it with my cats as they never miss behave but its worth a try.
     
  9. buffie

    buffie Mentored by Meeko

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    Aurelia will try misting ,have tried jet but it doesnt stop him,I wil try anything legal to sort out this otherwise nice if nutty kitten.
     
  10. buffie

    buffie Mentored by Meeko

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    Coco-flo did try small plastic bottle with pebbles in it but this realy scared him and he hid for ages,when he did come out he was v.wary and defensive but thanks for your suggestion I will give most things a go.
     
  11. Taylorbaby

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    How old is he? How old was he when you got him? Did he have any litter mates?

    Kittens bite, kittens stratch I am covered and have actually bad scars now that Im told wont fade, but its how the4y play and what they do, it can seem quite violent, but if a kitten wanted to actually 'harm' you, you would know!

    First Id say NO playing with him with hands/feet/arms, I dont allow this myself but its hard to teach 4weeks old kittens that your legs arent mountains!

    Then if he does a hard bite/stratch a 'yelp' and get up and walk away arms folded, no play for 10 mins, each and every time, this is what I have done with all of my cats & what my kittens owners ask for advice about, I think only 1 kitten, who we found had been smacked -:mad:

    took longer to respond, but Im sure thats due to her being frightened of hands, other than playing.

    Ragdolls arent aggressive by nature :)
     
  12. buffie

    buffie Mentored by Meeko

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    Taylorbaby.
    9wks when Igot him now 18wks 4 litter mates.Behaviourist recommended to keep arms covered,when he bites sit or stand still do not make any sound once he releases walk away and leave room for 10 mins,no squirting with water ,yelping or any kind of reaction to the bite.After a week of this treatment all that seems to be happening is that he thinks he can bite when he wants.It is not playful kitten biting it is quite violent and comes out of the blue. The fact that ragdolls are known for there gentle nature makes his behaviour more worrying,obviously kittens are individuals but his biting is getting out of control.
     
  13. Aurelia

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    I'm just wondering if perhaps the kitty has some sort of medical problem. Maybe a hormone imbalance or something worryingly worse.

    Has your vet taken any blood tests at all? Have they also checked kitties eyes? Sorry if you have already answered these questions.
     
  14. jenny armour

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    9 weeks old seems a bit young for him to be sold obviously without his vaccinations. i wonder if the breeder wanted to get rid because of his attitude. its very unusual for a raggie to be like that.
     
  15. buffie

    buffie Mentored by Meeko

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    All the kittens were sold at 9wks she was not a registered breeder i did not realise the possible problems this could cause,wont do that again but meantime I have kitten to help.
    Vet has not taken blood tests as yet,he thinks it is behaviour problem obviously if it continues that will be the next step.He has been physically checked from head to paw and appears in perfect health.He is a very loving kitten most of the time but when he flips it can be quite nasty.
    I stopped doing what the behaviourist suggested(as mentioned in prev thread)
    and he does seem to be at last responding to verbal warnings and thanks to Aurelia suggesting misting him in the face which he did not like and ran off we may be begining to get through his mixed up head(had squirted him before but it had no effect)Many thanks to everyone for there input it is good to know even if you cant help you are there to listen:)
     
  16. Aurelia

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    That's good to hear! Progress is progress. A little water ain't gonna hurt the little fella :)

    I hope he continues along the current path and you have less of a demon and more of an angel kitty.
     
  17. jenny armour

    jenny armour PetForums VIP

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    that i would have thought the kittens problem is the breeder never socialised him or his litter
     
  18. buffie

    buffie Mentored by Meeko

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    In defence of the breeder although he was sold earlier than most breeders would he was very well socialised and confident perhaps too confident, had no fear of any noises or household equipment to the point of sitting on the hoover while it was on.He will go to any visitors happily with out exception.
     
  19. jenny armour

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    i have had ragdolls for the past 13 years and have never had the problem, maybe i was just lucky.
    incidentally what colour is he?
     
  20. Aurelia

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    How are things going now Buffie? Is the water still working?
     
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