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Ragdoll Kitten Colours

Discussion in 'Cat Breeding' started by Sm9090, Apr 14, 2021.


  1. Sm9090

    Sm9090 PetForums Newbie

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    Good Morning,

    I have a female chocolate mitted lynx ragdoll and a male blue colourpoint who have recently had kittens. Does anyone know what colours the babies could possibly be?

    Thankyou
     
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    You need to know what colours are carried by the parents to be able to answer this question. If neither carry anything, they'll all be seal, some may be seal tabby.
     
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    Hi. Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure what the parents carry
     
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    These are the kittens colours at the moment
     

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    If you've not tested them, your mentor should easily explain their pedigrees and what they likely carry.

    Hopefully you have tested for HCM, PKD.
     
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    I do not have a mentor and haven't had one since about 10 years ago!
    All my cats are registered and tested, I have never had some of the colours of this litter before and was simply looking for some help but thanks for your reply
     
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    Unless there is absolute certainty of knowing what they carry (for example because one of their parents was dilute or chocolate), I always colour test my breeding cats at the same time as doing the genetic health tests. This allows me to plan better matings and also to know what colours could crop up in the offspring of any particular mating.

    At least two of those kittens look to be Seal (one tabby), the other two look paler but it is very hard to judge kitten colours from off the cuff photos as differences in white balance and exposure can make a massive difference to the apparent colour of the animals being photographed.
     
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    I don't know if you are in the UK but if your health test results are from Langford in the last two years, you can request further tests without sending another swab. I suggest you test the boy for chocolate and the girl for dilute. Presumably you will be able to tell the tabbies in due course without testing for agouti.
     
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    Yes they are from Langfords, thankyou for your advice.
     
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    Lunarags Dedicated cat slave

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    From what I can see I would say the first kitten is either seal or chocolate tabby, second looks seal, third looks like it might be tabby of some description but i say this very tentatively as its very difficult to tell, and fourth looks to be blue which suggests that mum carries the dilute,although as has been said before it's impossible to tell at this age for sure without genetics and even more difficult from photos. Was one of the maternal grandparents blue or lilac?

    Also is mum tortie or are the unusual nose markings on kittens 2 and 3 a result of white spotting extending past the chin? Kitten 2 in particular looks to have more of a bicolour pattern as the mitts on the front paws look like they cover the whole leg

    As im sure you know, the colours and patterns will become clearer in the next few weeks
     
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    Mum carries dilute she is a chocolate lynx mitted & dad a blue colourpoint.
    It's kittens 2 and 3 that I haven't had before as in the nose markings, previous litter resulted in chocolate/seal lynx and blue colourpoint.
     
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    If the previous litter produced those colours it means that mums genotype is bbDd and dads is Bbdd, meaning kittens can be seal chocolate blue or lilac with or without tabby pattern. The blaze could explain where these unusual nose markings are coming from. it looks like the white from the mitts has extended past the chin and over the noses giving more of a bicolour pattern, although genetically they would be high/mid-high mitted, not bicolour. I wouldn't normally expect this when breeding a mitted with a solid colourpoint so the only explanation i can think of is that the blaze on the nose has caused more white spotting on the kittens, as the genetics which cause the blaze in ragdolls are not well understood yet
     
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    Yes they do look like bi colour but obviously I know that's impossible so you are probably correct and has to be something to do with the blaze on mum. Both kittens have the same nose markings I've just never had this before on my kittens with these colour parents. Thanks for your replies
     
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    Do you think it could be possible mum is a high mitted lynx?
     
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    Can we see a pic of her? And is there defo no white on dad?
     
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    No white on dad fully blue colourpoint
     
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    My photo of her isn't uploading for some reason.

    Dads parents are lilac colourpoint & blue colourpoint

    Mum's parents are chocolate point mitted & blue lynx mitted
     
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    In that case, since the stud carries chocolate, and the queen carries dilute, kittens could be seal/blue or chocolate/lilac, and about half will be lynx and/or mitted, as @Lunarags has already mentioned :>
     
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